Coppolella may have been a few steps closer to the door than other GMs, thanks to the ongoing feud between Schuerholz and Coppolella/Hart.What they were doing had to have been worse than the SOX if a bunch of FO Execs are resigning
I'm guessing the Sox would be long shots. There are a few teams who can offer substantially more money unless he waits until the next signing period to sign again.Kevin Maitan may be declared a Free Agent. IF so, the Sox should be all in on this kid. He looks great.
I believe the Sox players that were released last year went back into the pool.Would be be subject to IFA restrictions again? I thought he'd just be a regular free agent since he's already been signed by a team.
Per Passan’s report, right-hander Cesar Gonzalez, outfielders Albert Guiamaro and Simon Muzziotti, and infielders Antonio Pinero and Eduardo Torrealba. The first $300K of their bonuses will not count toward their new teams’ international bonus pools in the upcoming period, he adds.
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While they’ll undoubtedly find teams interested in paying them, their market may be more limited, as many clubs that aren’t planning to exceed their pool have likely already come close to maxing out their allotted spending limit with advance agreements.
Major League Baseball has informed several Braves prospects that they will meet with them on Tuesday afternoon, according to multiple sources. The players will either meet with league officials in person in the Dominican Republic or be informed of what's happening by phone.
Anything is possible. There are still a handful of teams with a whole lot more money available, you have Ohtani, the new Cuban FA OF, and the braves guysSox have a chance at any of them? Should they be interested in any of them?
Edit: And here's a rundown of the full punishment which is... severe.SS Kevin Maitan, a top-100 prospect, and C Abrahan Gutierrez now free agents. Both signed for >$3M bonuses. If the precedent from the Red Sox penalties hold, their new contracts won't count against caps up to amounts they previously signed for (4.25M and 3.53M, respectively).
The infractions centered around the organization landing top international signings in the 2016-17 signing period, including switch-hitting standout Kevin Maitan, catcher Abrahan Gutierrez, infielders Yunior Severino and Livan Soto and pitchers Juan Contreras, Yefri del Rosario and Guillermo Zuniga. Three prospects from the 2017-18 signing period, including Korean shortstop Ji-hwan Bae, were also involved in MLB’s penalties.
League officials informed the prospects, who are not eligible to re-sign with the Braves, of their status on Tuesday before releasing the investigation’s findings.
Manfred announced that Coppolella was banned from baseball for life by being placed on the “permanently ineligible list, effective immediately.” Blakeley received a one-year suspension.
Sounds like 13 players in all will be released into the IFA pool.The league is also placing punitive restrictions on signing future international prospects. The Braves were already limited to offering a maximum of $300,000 per player over the next two signing periods, but now reportedly can only offer a maximum signing bonus of $10,000 during the 2019-20 period and will lose half their bonus pool in 2021. The penalties will dramatically affect how the Braves’ new leadership restocks its farm system over the next four years.
The Braves will forfeit their third-round pick in the 2018 domestic draft for offering second-round Drew Waters extra benefits, though he will remain in the system. Atlanta holds onto next summer’s 8th overall pick.
So the Red Sox would be able to offer Maitan about $700,000.00 if this is accurate.The players will have restrictions on their free agency. They will be eligible to sign with another club for another signing bonus beginning on Dec. 5 up until Jan. 15. After Jan. 15, the player is still allowed to sign but cannot receive an additional signing bonus. Only the amount of the signing bonus beyond $200,000 will count toward a team’s signing bonus pool. Players are allowed to re-sign with the Braves, but if they choose to do so, they must wait until May 1 to sign with them and can’t receive an additional signing bonus.
Enough that John Hart took the next bus out of town.I read the ESPN article on the lifetime ban and scanned this thread but can't find a good summary of what Coppolella actually did. Can someone break down what he did and why it was so egregious?
Here's the CBS piece I just read: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-comes-down-hard-on-braves-bans-former-gm-everything-you-need-to-know/?linkId=45016545I read the ESPN article on the lifetime ban and scanned this thread but can't find a good summary of what Coppolella actually did. Can someone break down what he did and why it was so egregious?
- The Braves were guilty of "bundling" signing bonuses to international players. Thanks to having previously exceeded their spending pool in years prior, the Braves were limited to just $300,000 bonuses per player. Instead, they would give, for example, two different players $300,000 each, though the overwhelming majority of the $600K total would go to one player while the lesser player still got more than he would have on his own.
The Redsox were guilty of doing this and there were no life time bans. They just lost 5 players and couldn't sign anyone last year.Here's the CBS piece I just read: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-comes-down-hard-on-braves-bans-former-gm-everything-you-need-to-know/?linkId=45016545
The money quote (I think) about Copollela and what the Braves were doing:
I asked him what the mechanism was for deferring. He responded with:However, if a team is in the penalty for 2017-18 but not for 2018-19, they can sign Kevin Maitan, etc., and count it toward their 2018-19 pool without being subject to the $300,000 limit.
Apparently this is unique to this particular situation. They created a bunch of rules specifically for this. So this isn't some hidden rule tucked away in the CBA that would allow for a deferment in a normal IFA signing.When the team signs the player, the club just informs the commissioner's office which year's bonus pool they want the signing to be applied toward.
But could a team use money from this year's pool to sign one player, and next year's pool to sign a separate player?And the other interesting and kind of odd nuance is that teams can't combine money from the two years to sign any of these guys, it is one or the other.
Yes, just no combining for one player, as I understand it.But could a team use money from this year's pool to sign one player, and next year's pool to sign a separate player?
Badler said yes when someone asked if the Yankees could sign Ohtani, then turn around and sign Maitan for next year's money. (which is probably the scenario you were wondering about)But could a team use money from this year's pool to sign one player, and next year's pool to sign a separate player?
And Manfred announced he would drop the hammer on anyone doing it again, and he just did.The Redsox were guilty of doing this and there were no life time bans. They just lost 5 players and couldn't sign anyone last year.
Everyone was doing it a few years ago, but after Boston got the public hammer everyone was put on notice to knock it off. As that was happening the Braves were using the tactic to help set themselves up for future signing periods, were found to have already put together such deals for amateur players not yet eligible to be signed.The Redsox were guilty of doing this and there were no life time bans. They just lost 5 players and couldn't sign anyone last year.