Yup. $51,111,111.11Maybe. It wasn’t really a bidding war per se. I’m pretty sure that the Japanese team posted the player and each team had one chance to submit a bid for his rights.
Henry’s lucky number is 11 or something like that.
Yup. $51,111,111.11Maybe. It wasn’t really a bidding war per se. I’m pretty sure that the Japanese team posted the player and each team had one chance to submit a bid for his rights.
Realistically a lot of these guys careers are going to be spent entirely in A/AA and be over by the time they are 24, no? The signing bonus money will be gone by the time they are washed up and they don't have a college degree. Instead of hanging out with kids your own age, being a baseball star in a college town, you are living in some family's basement in Roanoke, VA.Right. That's some deep depth.
I wonder if the gamble for a few extra million by improving your draft stock is worth delaying your career for 3 years.
This is fair but if you actually do make the show, you are probably going to make far more in the MLB because you'll be approaching FA before you are 30.Realistically a lot of these guys careers are going to be spent entirely in A/AA and be over by the time they are 24, no? The signing bonus money will be gone by the time they are washed up and they don't have a college degree. Instead of hanging out with kids your own age, being a baseball star in a college town, you are living in some family's basement in Roanoke, VA.
The sad but real truth… likely they’ll be 26, married with two kids and have a MLB scholarship they can’t afford to use as they only have five years after they’re done to complete their degree. The wife and kids have to eat, so full time school isn’t an option.Realistically a lot of these guys careers are going to be spent entirely in A/AA and be over by the time they are 24, no? The signing bonus money will be gone by the time they are washed up and they don't have a college degree. Instead of hanging out with kids your own age, being a baseball star in a college town, you are living in some family's basement in Roanoke, VA.
This needs more attention.... I was about to write off Groome after his rough start to this season...Keith Law calls Mayer our new top prospect over Duran, with an interesting take at the end:
"Were it not for Mayer, Boston’s best prospect now might be resurgent left-hander Jay Groome, who has come back from two lost years after Tommy John surgery and a tough start to 2021 to strike out 53 in 36 1/3 innings since the start of June with 14 walks."
https://theathletic.com/2714763/2021/07/19/law-which-teams-just-drafted-their-new-no-1-prospects?source=user-shared-article
Here's an answer to the question you aren't sure how to ask... I think.This needs more attention.... I was about to write off Groome after his rough start to this season...
EDIT- more on topic, and what I was initially coming here to post, was about the International Draft. I don't quite understand how the national draft and that one are connected with draft pool money and likelihood of draftees making it to a ML career from each draft. I'm not even sure how to phrase my question actually....
I went to a Cape Cod League game Tuesday night and took note that the 3B for Harwich had a cannon arm and made a super slick diving play as well. I just looked through this thread and saw that the Sox 20th pick was the one player from that game whose name I remembered! He's not hitting much, and a little research indicates he didn't play college ball this year. I'm guessing it's because he transferred from U Penn to NC State and wasn't eligible. So it's understandable that his hit tool would be rusty alongside my guess that Cape League pitchers are tougher than what he saw in the Ivy League. He has put up good hitting numbers in the Coastal Plains league, which a little research seems similar to the Cape Cod league. It'll be interesting to see if he signs.20. Josh Hood - College - Shortstop - Unsigned
Does Kavadas have any leverage? He was a senior, right?I think the remaining names that will take the most money to sign:
Jud Fabian
Payton Green
Niko Kavadas.
COVID Senior. He could go play another year.Does Kavadas have any leverage? He was a senior, right?
I forgot Hickey as well. I think he’ll be over slot. I suspect Green goes to college. Kavadas probably goes for around slot ($125k, but could push for more).I think the remaining names that will take the most money to sign:
Jud Fabian
Payton Green
Niko Kavadas.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit making jokes about glue.@ElNuevoDia learned that the young Puerto Rican pitcher Elmer Rodríguez agreed to a bonus of $ 500,000 with the @RedSoxBeisbol following his selection in the 4th round in the last MLB rookie draft. His turn was worth $ 554,300.
Thanks for your work keeping us updated with all this great draft information.$2.5M to use on Fabian, Hickey, and Kavadas. That should get it done.
Thanks. It’s one of my favorite parts of the baseball year.Thanks for your work keeping us updated with all this great draft information.
Obviously, at $3mm (per Gammo's tweet), it's impossible to sign Fabian. The numbers simply don't work.EDIT: If Fabian wants $2.5mm-$2.7mm to sign, the Red Sox could either (A) sign Kavadas and Hickey and roll the Fabian pick to 2022 or (B) sign Fabian and let Hickey go back to school (they cannot roll the pick to 2022).
Then the Sox lose over 1. 8 million in their draft pool. So I'm guessing not very likely.If Fabian bails, is the money they were earmarking to overslot him enough to sway Green?
We're talking a max of $4-5M additional bonus money between what he can get now versus what he could conceivably get if he is drafted higher next year. If he's confident he can do that, he should be confident that he's going to get to the big leagues and succeed, which could yield many more millions. Seems like the less risky of his two options to take the $1.8M now with the possibility of more earnings in the future versus holding out another year for a bigger draft bonus but risking ending up with less or nothing if he has a bad year or gets hurt.I admire Fabian's confidence that he can go back and spend another year in college and regain his spot at the top of the draft boards and the money that comes with being a high draft pick. The argument could also be made that he should sign with the Sox, get into professional baseball now instead of waiting one more year, and use that same confidence in himself to reach the majors a year earlier.
Part of his calculus may be that he has a decent shot of getting at least some of that extra $4M by waiting a year. Whereas if he signs now, it could easily be 5 or more combined years of toiling in the minors and pre-arb major league seasons before he makes that $4M. The downside risk seems considerable, especially has he could probably get over $2M by signing now.We're talking a max of $4-5M additional bonus money between what he can get now versus what he could conceivably get if he is drafted higher next year. If he's confident he can do that, he should be confident that he's going to get to the big leagues and succeed, which could yield many more millions. Seems like the less risky of his two options to take the $1.8M now with the possibility of more earnings in the future versus holding out another year for a bigger draft bonus but risking ending up with less or nothing if he has a bad year or gets hurt.
Like you say, admirable self-confidence. Hope it works out for him.
Bad start, improved middle, less good ending. And he reportedly was willing to take $3mm from BAL in the #41 slot, so he's betting on himself for an additional $750k-$1mm, tops (I'm assuming the Red Sox are offering $2-$2.25mm).Also, loads of top draft prospects never even touch the big leagues. "I can definitely return to Florida and improve on last season, which should vault me into the top 10 and get me an additional 2 to 4 million dollars(!!!!)" is a much different statement than "I am definitely going to make it to the big leagues and be a star even though every scouting report on me has me as a high risk prospect". Didn't he start to improve towards the end of the season?