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Arsenal 2017-18: Au Revoir, Arsene

Discussion in 'Breakfast with Gazza (with Sachmoneious Bullcrap)' started by mikeford, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. mikeford

    mikeford woolwich! SoSH Member

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    Well at least we won a trophy. More than most of England can say.

    No Champions League to worry about getting knocked out of by Bayern Munich this year.
    Instead we get to travel to lovely places in Bulgaria with ruined pitches to play on Thursdays. A real treat.

    Signed a LWB for free.

    Bellerin might leave. Alexis might leave. Ozil might leave. Talk of spending a king and queen's ransom on Mbappe.

    Probably wont make a signing til the day the window closes because Arsene Wenger rides again. Another 2 years of this. Strap in, I guess.
     
  2. Morgan's Magic Snowplow

    Morgan's Magic Snowplow Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I have no clue what this summer will bring.

    It won't make or break anything about the summer more generally but Kolasinac was really good business. I won't pretend to have seen him play much but he made numerous Bundesliga teams of the season, which isn't easy at LB given the presence of Alaba and some other decent players. From what I understand, he has primarily been known as a player that is strong defensively but not particularly dynamic going forward. But he had 12 goal involvements (3 goals, 9 assists) across all competitions this past season, which is a very, very high figure for a fullback or wingback. And the fact that he split time last year at Schalke between playing LB in a 4-2-3-1 and LWB in a 3-5-2 should be helpful in terms of our setup. Finally, the guy is built like a bull and seems to play with a mean streak, which can't hurt in the Premier League.
     
  3. shaggydog2000

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    I like the Kolasinac signing too. I know highlight reels are highlight reels and all, but he seems to have some serious skill, and he doesn't seem to be afraid of being physical. I think he'll bring an edge, like Xhaka did, that this team could use. With him, Bellerin (who I doubt is going anywhere with a new 6 year contract) and Holding, Koscielny, and Mustafi the defense/wingbacks look to be a strong group.
     
  4. ConigliarosPotential

    ConigliarosPotential Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Er, the Europa League is exclusively broadcast on BT Sport now in the UK - it hasn't been on ITV4 for quite a while. (Re: the thread title.)
     
  5. ConigliarosPotential

    ConigliarosPotential Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    By the by, I discovered yesterday that The Tuesday Club podcast with Alan Davies did indeed broadcast its one and only episode for the 2016-17 season in mid-April. So of course I had a listen, and while a lot of the content is out-of-date - they thought an upcoming loss to Man City in the FA Cup semifinal would be a mercy killing ahead of a probable blowout against Chelsea, heh - their overall assessments of the club, the players and Wenger are generally spot on as well as typically hilarious. I miss those guys - even two months late, the pod is worth a listen to anyone else (like me) who had given up on them and unsubscribed a long time ago.
     
  6. mikeford

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    Eh I don't feel like updating the joke we used to use on Sp*rs fans
     
  7. the1andonly3003

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    what does everyone make of the rumored agreement of Alexis to City? believable? if true, kinda sucks he stays in EPL...would have rooted for him to win tons of Bundesliga/La Liga trophies
     
  8. ConigliarosPotential

    ConigliarosPotential Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Lots of Sanchez rumors floating around at the moment - yesterday he was off to Bayern Munich, according to the Mirror. I wouldn't hold your breath just yet waiting to find out what happens to him.
     
  9. Dernells Casket n Flagon

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    Whoever pays the most is who I want at this point.
     
  10. InstaFace

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    You'd rather some money than Alexis Sanchez on your team? He gave the greatest number of fucks of anyone on the squad by the end of the year. He was a fuckin' hero in the FA Cup semifinal. He can play multiple positions, and he's 28, not 35. Why in god's name would you want to throw him overboard, unless for some reason you think you can get Griezmann or someone else in his class?
     
  11. Dernells Casket n Flagon

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    Calm down, Captain College Confidential.

    The conversation was about "If he's going to leave, where do you want to see him play?"
     
  12. the1andonly3003

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  13. InstaFace

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    There was no such qualifier in your post, nor was there a thread of the conversation that took that tack. The plain meaning of your post was that you wanted him gone.
     
  14. lars10

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    The two posts right above his were about Bayern and City.. I took his meaning as he stated it. I think any Arsenal fan obviously wants him back w/o question but most fans are resigned to the fact he's amost certainly gone (especially w/o CL). So if he is gone why not get the most money.
     
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  16. fletcherpost

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    Selling to a rival in the league is not what most fans would want IMO. If he scores against them at the Emirates and makes a show of not celebrating, it will hurt even more if he's in City blue. If he goes to Germany or Italy, there's a years grace.
     
  17. ConigliarosPotential

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    It's also not exactly certain that Wenger would take all of the money from a Sanchez sale and reinvest it in the team. So why should you and I care if we sell Sanchez to Bayern or Juve, etc., for £5m less than if we sell him to Man City or Chelsea?
     
  18. lars10

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    True. I don't want to see him go to any other English side. He won't be easy to replace and seeing him score for Chelsea or City would be very frustrating. Dude deserves to play for a team that wins trophies though, where he's surrounded with talent. Arsene-l just aren't doing that at the moment.
     
  19. the1andonly3003

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    for how much longer do we expect Alexis to remain at this level? age 29-30? what happens after that: drop back to MF or become a super-sub like Fernando Torres?
    RVP's stats seemed to drop off after his first season at United
     
  20. mikeford

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    I'd way rather sell Alexis out of England for less money than to sell him to one of our chief rivals. Fuck all that. We're already a feeder club for best Europe has to offer, lets try not to do the same thing in our own league anymore.
     
  21. SoxFanInCali

    SoxFanInCali has the rich, deep voice of a god and the penis of Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Well, with the money in the Premier League and the wages the players get, the clubs you can sell a player to outside of England are pretty much limited to Real, Barca, Bayern, and PSG.
     
  22. teddykgb

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    Come on. Live a little.
     
  23. Luis Taint

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    I've seen enough, give Monaco whatever they want Mbappe. I mean I know it's never going to happen, but it is a joy to watch him play.
     
  24. the1andonly3003

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  25. BostonJack42

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    I couldn't agree more.
     
  26. mikeford

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    Lyon allegedly want 20m + Giroud for Lacazette

    I'm not even sure he's an improvement OVER Giroud
     
  27. coremiller

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    Frankly, that could be a decent deal for Arsenal. Even if you think Giroud and Lacazette are comparable in quality right now, Lacazette is almost five years younger. Is it worth paying 20m to trade Giroud's age 31-33 seasons for Lacazette's age 26-28 seaons? I'd be inclined to pull the trigger on that. The aging curve for strikers on the wrong side of 30 who aren't Zlatan is not good.
     
  28. InstaFace

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    it's a reasonable price, but:

    - If Arsenal keeps Alexis Sanchez, wouldn't we prefer him in a CF role?
    - Lacazette seems stylistically like more of an Aubameyang, a lot of speed and quickness, while Giroud has aerial skills that Arsenal would lose. Where does the header game go without him?
    - You might do the deal if and only if you get Lacazette to sign an extension
     
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  30. ConigliarosPotential

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    Why is Arsenal letting Szczesny go to Juventus? I'd bring him back from Roma as our #1 for next year - Cech is nearly done, and Szczesny seems to love Arsenal enough to still want to play for the club. What am I missing?
     
  31. mikeford

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    That Arsenal is run by a senile old man and no one in a position to check him cares?
     
  32. Luis Taint

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    Its not even July 1st and I already hate this transfer window. If you follow the Adventures of Arsene, we are either signing everyone, or shipping everyone with a pulse out.
     
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  34. shaggydog2000

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    Lacazette is now official:



    Alexis is still up in the air, and Giroud and Perez are likely on the way out. I'd like to keep one of the last two, and I still hold out hope on Alexis.
     
  35. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Ok, LacaNewSigning is pretty great
     
  36. mikeford

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    Cringeworthy hashtag, IMO
    I feel good knowing he absolutely positively will hold these overpaid babies like Ramsey and Theo accountable for shit.
     
  37. shaggydog2000

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  38. Jake Peavy's Demons

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    I've been following the transfer rumours of Lemar/Mbappé/Mahrez like mad all summer, specifically the first two.

    Is it ever hard not to get my hopes up...

    Also, OM are confident in Olivier Giroud coming:
    https://www.thescore.com/news/1330112
     
  39. the1andonly3003

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  40. mikeford

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    Please don't post the fucking S*n.
     
  41. ConigliarosPotential

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  42. the1andonly3003

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    is that a pun on "like a new signing" or "lotta new signing"?
     
  43. Dernells Casket n Flagon

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    I figured it was Wenger making the point "lack of new signings".
     
  44. shaggydog2000

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    Is it a politics thing? Because I have no clue about that with foreign newspapers, you know that right?
     
  45. BCsMightyJoeYoung

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    No .. not politics .. Google Hillsborough and the Sun and you will have your answer.
     
  46. Dummy Hoy

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    well, and politics.
     
  47. shaggydog2000

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    Gotcha, all you needed was one word. Will do my best to avoid in the future then.
     
  48. PedroSpecialK

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    "Like a" was my guess w the Diaby and Wilshere memes
     
  49. Morgan's Magic Snowplow

    Morgan's Magic Snowplow Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    If we signed Thomas Lemar, as we're reportedly trying to do, and managed to keep Alexis, I'd be pretty excited about this squad.
     
  50. the1andonly3003

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    Been watching Arsenal's Snapchat channel. Emi looks like he can replace Cech right now!

    In all seriousness, the pitch they are training on in Shanghai looks terrible
     

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