What's the last utterance? I can't lip read it, but inquiring minds... "The Fuck? Get back in the box. Then______?"Was able to make a better quality version.
What's the last utterance? I can't lip read it, but inquiring minds... "The Fuck? Get back in the box. Then______?"Was able to make a better quality version.
Godayumm...What's the last utterance? I can't lip read it, but inquiring minds... "The Fuck? Get back in the box. Then______?"
Throw ERod in there somewhere, giving up a 3 run dinger to Sanchez.BULLPEN
Barnes: 2.0 ip, 0 h, 0 r, 0 er, 1 bb, 1 k
Brasier: 2.1 ip, 1 h, 0 r, 0 er, 2 bb, 4 k
Hembree: 3.0 ip, 0 h, 0 r, 0 er, 3 bb, 2 k
Kelly: 2.1 ip, 1 h, 0 r, 0 er, 0 bb, 1 k
TOT: 9.2 ip, 2 h, 0 r, 0 er, 6 bb, 8 k, 0.00 era, 0.83 whip, 7.4 k/9
Add in..
Porcello: 0.2 ip, 1 h, 0 r, 0 er, 0 bb, 0 k
Sale: 1.0 ip, 0 h, 0 r, 0 er, 0 bb, 1 k
But...
Kimbrel: 2.1 ip, 2 h, 3 r, 3 er, 2 bb, 4 k
Workman: 0.2 ip, 4 h, 1 r, 1 er, 1 bb, 2 k
I didn't hear the TBS guys mention it but Merloni after the game said that Hernandez should have tagged and gone to third on Sanchez' fly ball. I thought that would have increased the pressure even more; given that Kimbrel was throwing pitches all over the place and/or it's a tie game if Nunez/Pearce don't make that play.True, but the lead runner was on second and didn't try to score.
If there’s one hard-and-fast rule in baseball it’s: don’t make the third out at third base. I’m not gonna do the saber-math, but if there’s even a 5% chance Hechevarria would have been thrown out at third, don’t go. Even if the math favored going, the habit of following the rule overrides in the heat of the moment.I didn't hear the TBS guys mention it but Merloni after the game said that Hernandez should have tagged and gone to third on Sanchez' fly ball. I thought that would have increased the pressure even more; given that Kimbrel was throwing pitches all over the place and/or it's a tie game if Nunez/Pearce don't make that play.
Is it that fucking hard to say, "It got tight, but the whole organization has faith in our players to pull through and they did."Similar thoughts of that series had echoed in the mind of team chairman Tom Werner.
“Painful,” he said. “I really thought they were going to catch up.”
Sure, except it wouldn't be true, and would seem so transparent it would induce laughter from the reporter. I appreciate his honesty.Werner was more likeable when he was enabling Bill Cosby:
Is it that fucking hard to say, "It got tight, but the whole organization has faith in our players to pull through and they did."
Another example of Merloni's WAAA (wins above average analyst) resembling his career bWAA of -1.2.I didn't hear the TBS guys mention it but Merloni after the game said that Hernandez should have tagged and gone to third on Sanchez' fly ball.
Don't shoot. I'm only the messenger in this case. The way Benintendi caught the ball he was in position to make a solid throw. None of the replays show anything else ... not sure what picture Merloni could see to tell him that.If there’s one hard-and-fast rule in baseball it’s: don’t make the third out at third base. I’m not gonna do the saber-math, but if there’s even a 5% chance Hernandez would have been thrown out at third, don’t go. Even if the math favored going, the habit of following the rule overrides in the heat of the moment.
Edit: what Lose said.
I would have gone Eovaldi. MFY had all the momentum after the game 2 win going home and Eovaldi just mowed them down. No one would have faulted him for a 4 IP 3 R performance given what we had just witnessed at Fenway. Instead he badly out pitches the MFY "ace" guaranteeing the series at worst returns to Fenway.Is there an MVP named for DS series? My pick would be Porcello...pitched great in Game 4 of course, but the outs he got in Game 1 when the bullpen was struggling to throw strikes just restored order and flipped the game.
Who was this to? Is there a longer cut that shows what was going on? Missed it.
Awesome thanks! Among all of the great moments, this was probably my favorite of the series and is sort of a microcosm of the whole thing. We wanted them and we were ready for them.Was able to make a better quality version.
Totally agree. Lured them right into the mouse trap, then *snap*.56 and same here, except...
...as stressful as the Kimbrel 9th was, I’m glad that we got their hopes up, then dashed them. I’d never have planned it that way, but letting the MFY fans smell, but not taste victory, made it all the better. Beating them 4-3 was weirdly better than beating them 4-1.
This was especially the case following the humiliating 16-1 beatdown, which was delicious in its own right.
I thought it was “the fuck, get in the fucking box. God damn”What's the last utterance? I can't lip read it, but inquiring minds... "The Fuck? Get back in the box. Then______?"
Right? I remember being so crazy laser focus on each pitch, even moreso than any other playoffs, that I think I would just move to the next pitch mentally no matter what happened. I think that's how I survived...though I am sure I've lost a few years off the backend of my life.I was talking to my brother after the game last night. I asked him how we survived and stayed (relatively) sane in 2004. He said he has no idea.
Games 1 and especially 4 probably took years off my life, but it's worth it.
I feel really honestly sorry for these people.Imagine that there are people in the world who aren't sports fans.
Porcello, Sale, Eovaldi... whichever. All three were great. And I think it’s great when the series MVP isn’t an obvious decision... and the bench player who hit for the cycle isn’t even in the running. Teamwork.Sale is the MVP for me. Going into the series, I thought three things needed to happen. Sox righties needed to pitch well, we needed to stay close in homers, and Sale needed to be great. I was hoping but not expecting that both Porcello and Eovaldi would be good. But really I didn’t think they both would win on the road. I thought that one would come through but they would beat the other in a close one and we would need Sale to be great twice.
Turns out once, plus a bullpen inning, was enough.
While winning a track meet game in Price’s start was a possibility, I really wasn’t expecting it. That team is tough on lefties. Price and EdRo were unlikely to be the heroes. Sale needed to be excellent and it’s harder for him. He makes it look easy at times but that lineup is a real grind on lefties no matter how good.
Staying even in HRs is the real surprise. That felt like it would be a telltale stat. If you had told me before the series it would end up being 4 to 4, I would have felt really good given how the Sox are better at scratching out runs. That they got 16 in one game instead of spreading them out just a little more I guess made two of the games tense though.
Looks like 2019 closer material.Brasier seemed really nervous at the start of this series. But man did he come on. Here's his batter-by-batter performance:
G1 - Voit - single
G1 - Gregorius - ground out
G1 - Andujar - wild pitch, walk
G2 - McCutchen - strikeout
G2 - Judge - reached on error
G2 - Voit - walk
G2 - Stanton - strikeout
G2 - Sanchez - strikeout
G4 - Voit - fly out
G4 - Walker - strikeout
G4 - Sanchez - pop out
Overall, hitters went 1-8 with two walks and four strikeouts. Retired the last five batters he faced, three of them by strikeout.
I think he has gotten over the playoff nerves, and I think he should be ready to roll in the ALCS.
My college roommates and I did this before SB 36. We turned it off in the 2nd quarter after Brady threw 6 interceptions. Granted he was rated like a 70 at the start of that season. And Warner had thrown like 4 himself, so the CPU wasn't exactly the greatest.No. I'm too dumb for that. I just use MLB The Show 18 on the PS4
I'd be curious to see how yours works. I was on a walk last night and reading SoSH and read about your sim for a moment and a longer part of my walk was devoted to wondering how yours works.
Set the game up and let it play itself (CPU v CPU). I do it on Madden before the Pats play the Super Bowl and essentially it's just a good way to kill 30-45 minutes before the game.
The struggling Craig Kimbrel attempting to find his way through the most powerful lineup in the majors while seemingly not having a good idea where his pitches were going. In the end, the result was a seven-batter, 28-pitch (with just 13 strikes) outing that included the final three outs of the Red Sox' American League Division Series with the Yankees.
Sure, everyone knew that closing a game out in Yankee Stadium against the heart of this New York order wasn't going to be easy, but few believed it was going to be this difficult.
"Well, it got a little exciting there at the end," said Kimbrel.
So, what was wrong with the closer?
One notable issue was Kimbrel consistently needing to wipe his hand on the dirt and his uniform due to what looked like an exorbitant amount of moisture on the pitcher's hand. For that, the pitcher had a theory.
"The ball was a little slick," Kimbrel said. "I don’t know if it had to do with (home plate umpire Angel Hernandez's) bag. If they were coming out of his bag a little slick. I was just trying to get some of the moisture off my hand so I could get a good grip of the ball. I don’t think it’s abnormal. Late in the game, we get kind of used to that as pitchers."
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/what-was-wrong-craig-kimbrel-red-sox-think-they-knowBut the bigger issue was how wild Kimbrel became, starting with a four-pitch, leadoff walk to Aaron Judge. After Kimbrel allowed two runs on two hits and a walk, stranding a pair, Red Sox pitching coach Dana LeVangie said he believed the issue has been identified.
"We talk about some things that I feel like he does when he's pretty consistent. He got away from it a little bit tonight," LeVangie told WEEI.com. "There was extra effort and energy, which you could all see. But he does one thing that I feel like in his delivery that kind of locks him in and allows him to ride the slope down, he wasn't doing it tonight, so we'll talk about it moving forward.
I have no idea either. The bottom of the 9th last night was the closest I've come to that 2004 ALCS since then. Once Judge and Gregorious were on base, one part of my mind began imagining scenarios where each Yankee batter was going to be the hero (Stanton redeems himself with a three-run bomb ... no, wait, Voit does and becomes a True Yankee, no, Sanchez hits a grand slam...), while another part was screaming at Kimbrel to stop f****** around and thrown goddam strikes already. And this was just one half-inning - there were so many moments in those three games in '04 where it just felt like the Yankees would finally wake up and doom would strike and end our fantasies of an incredible comeback. For a few minutes last night, it felt that way again.I was talking to my brother after the game last night. I asked him how we survived and stayed (relatively) sane in 2004. He said he has no idea.
Games 1 and especially 4 probably took years off my life, but it's worth it.
I was having ‘86 flashbacks. Penultimate game choke resulting in series loss.I have no idea either. The bottom of the 9th last night was the closest I've come to that 2004 ALCS since then. Once Judge and Gregorious were on base, one part of my mind began imagining scenarios where each Yankee batter was going to be the hero (Stanton redeems himself with a three-run bomb ... no, wait, Voit does and becomes a True Yankee, no, Sanchez hits a grand slam...), while another part was screaming at Kimbrel to stop f****** around and thrown goddam strikes already. And this was just one half-inning - there were so many moments in those three games in '04 where it just felt like the Yankees would finally wake up and doom would strike and end our fantasies of an incredible comeback. For a few minutes last night, it felt that way again.
Lol ... I'm glad I didn't realize it at the time!I was having ‘86 flashbacks. Penultimate game choke resulting in series loss.
Only 1 run on a non homer hit in game 1 as well, Sox pen may have been a bit shaky with control but they did an amazing job of pitching out of jams and limiting damage all seriesI think it may have been mentioned, but it's amazing that since Sanchez' bomb in Fenway, the Yankees scored four runs. NONE of them on a hit.
Game 3:
- 4th - Gregorius grounds out, scoring Voit
Game 4:
- 5th - Gardner hits SF scoring Sanchez
- 9th - Walker hit by pitch scoring Judge
- 9th - Sanches hits SF scoring Gregorius
So not only couldn't they hit the ball out of the park, they couldn't even drive in a single run with a hit. That's really hard to believe.
This was worth an actual snort from me just now.Not yet.
NOW it's safe.
You know damn well Yankee fans were ready to declare it the equivalentI was scared of 2004 in reverse-- "Don't let them win tonight" kept going through my mind.
There might be a connection. Not that Sox relievers were ever control artists, but "DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOW HOME RUNS" might have affected them a bit in Game 1.Only 1 run on a non homer hit in game 1 as well, Sox pen may have been a bit shaky with control but they did an amazing job of pitching out of jams and limiting damage all series
It also helped to neutralize the impact of the NY pen.It has probably been noted elsewhere but the Sox led by 3+ runs heading into 19 of a possible 34 MFY batting innings (first inning of games 1 and 2 weren’t possible). So while games 1 and 4 ended up tight, that’s a pretty dominant series performance. The early multi run leads allowed cushion for the pen which was huge.
Yep. It was extremely important to hit their starters. That was obvious coming in, but it really hits home when you watched how the bats mostly went silent in games 1 and 4 after the starters were out and they brought in their good relievers....Vazquez's insanely cheap game winner off Britton not withstanding. (Which is also an awesome FU to the MFY in that park)It also helped to neutralize the impact of the NY pen.
Kind of but the reason games 1 and 4 got close was because the Sox didn’t tack on like they did most of the season. They won 108 games despite a mediocre pen because they punished opposing pens when they had a lead. Always blew games open late. Didn’t happen this series.It also helped to neutralize the impact of the NY pen.
To be fair though, isn’t that a lot easier to do against the 3rd and 4th guys out of the pen for Baltimore and Toronto? The Yankees had 3 former All Star closers to go to and a quick hook if someone got in trouble.Kind of but the reason games 1 and 4 got close was because the Sox didn’t tack on like they did most of the season. They won 108 games despite a mediocre pen because they punished opposing pens when they had a lead. Always blew games open late. Didn’t happen this series.
I heard a few try to make that correlation but there’s a huge difference between coming back from a 3-0 deficit in a 7-game series than coming back from a 2-1 deficit in a 5-gamer.You know damn well Yankee fans were ready to declare it the equivalent
This didn't occur to me until Anderson said "and the Red Sox are one strike away!" That caused the heart palpitations to jump even faster. Just glad I didn't hear any announcers mention how many outs were left after Sale got the first batter in the 8th...I was having ‘86 flashbacks. Penultimate game choke resulting in series loss.
I was having ‘86 flashbacks. Penultimate game choke resulting in series loss.
I had both of these same thoughts. 1986 was really traumatic for me - my school was 50/50 Boston vs New Yorkers in 1986, and I actually left for 6 months after the WS. Escaped for a semester to DC for my sanity.This didn't occur to me until Anderson said "and the Red Sox are one strike away!" That caused the heart palpitations to jump even faster.
I haven't read anything about Nunez' option on that last play: pocket the ball and hold the runner at 3rd.
Was that a possibility?
Or was the only play throwing to first...
(I gather if the ball had skipped by Pearce, the winning run would've scored, right?)
All-in-all and amazing finish. Reminded me of Butler, when I looked around at nobody and said, "Did the Pat's just f'n win?"
Oh for sure. My point was more that they didn’t exactly neutralize the MFY pen. Their pen kind of kept them in the series.To be fair though, isn’t that a lot easier to do against the 3rd and 4th guys out of the pen for Baltimore and Toronto? The Yankees had 3 former All Star closers to go to and a quick hook if someone got in trouble.
Neutralize might not have been the best choice of words, since they were effective. Early leads helped prevent optimal deployment of keeping NYY ahead.Oh for sure. My point was more that they didn’t exactly neutralize the MFY pen. Their pen kind of kept them in the series.
Neutralize might not have been the best choice of words, since they were effective. Early leads helped prevent optimal deployment of keeping NYY ahead.Oh for sure. My point was more that they didn’t exactly neutralize the MFY pen. Their pen kind of kept them in the series.
Nope. If the ball had skipped past, Mookie would have corralled it (showing Perfect Fundamentals) and gunned out the runner at the plate. Not just adding a nut-punch to the gut-punch but forever replacing Captain Jetes’ play to cut down Jeremy Giambi in all the highlights from years gone by.Sure it would have been possible for him to pocket the ball, the run wouldn't have scored if he did.
From that angle the throw came it was certainly possible, maybe likely that the winning run would have scored.