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Patriots rookie center Bryan Stork (knee) is dressed in full pads for practice.
Patriots rookie center Bryan Stork (knee) is dressed in full pads for practice.
I like the direction today is headed.E5 Yaz said:LeeSchechter Lee Schechter
Patriots rookie center Bryan Stork (knee) is dressed in full pads for practice.
E5 Yaz said:LeeSchechter Lee Schechter
Patriots rookie center Bryan Stork (knee) is dressed in full pads for practice.
drleather2001 said:Is the line materially better with Stork? I thought they looked great last week worhout him.
Yes.drleather2001 said:Is the line materially better with Stork? I thought they looked great last week worhout him.
drleather2001 said:Is the line materially better with Stork? I thought they looked great last week worhout him.
JerBear said:Yes.
Stork is slightly worse at center than Wendell but Wendell is MUCH better than Kline/Devey/etc at guard.
E5 Yaz said:And the Seahawks's's's' line is better than the Colts's's's'
Kline had a great showing in terms of run blocking against the Colts - you can see some his work here that exhibits his quickness. But he still remains a liability in pass protection. Good example of an offensive lineman who appears far more comfortable with a first step that moves forward and initiates contact as opposed to pass pro where you are adjusting to oncoming defenders.drleather2001 said:Is the line materially better with Stork? I thought they looked great last week worhout him.
Right., Kline was impressive and -- in real-time on the broadcast -- seemed to have a very strong first move after the snap on running plays.nazz45 said:Kline had a great showing in terms of run blocking against the Colts - you can see some his work here that exhibits his quickness. But he still remains a liability in pass protection. Good example of an offensive lineman who appears far more comfortable with a first step that moves forward and initiates contact as opposed to pass pro where you are adjusting to oncoming defenders.
Kevin Duffy @KevinRDuffy 11m11 minutes ago
Patriots OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo on Bryan Stork's seriousness: "3 weeks into him starting, he sent his girlfriend home. Got rid of her."
dynomite said:The PFW guys said DeGuglielmo was unusually forthright at Media Day yesterday. Some tidbits:
- He thinks the line is faster and more agile with Kline in and Wendell at center.
- They call Kline "cucumber" because nothing fazes him. Apparently Dante used to savage him last season and he never seemed to get upset by it.
- The rotations and struggles earlier this season may have been a benefit, because a lot of players realized they could be successful at multiple positions on the line, and everyone had to prepare as if they were starting.
I know it sounds crazy, but would the team will consider some kind of rotation to keep guys fresh?
It does seem like the coaching staff like Kline a lot more than the rest
I would say there's just as much technique in run blocking, depending on the scheme. Even if a player's assignment is just to shove the guy in front of him, it's as much about leverage as just physical strength. On many plays the assignment is more complicated - cut blocking on the backside, pulling to lead block, double-teaming and then moving to the second level, "reach blocks" to wall off a defender that's lined up in a different gap, etc. - and these plays require both physical skill but also technique and footwork.bakahump said:
Would it be fair to say that Run Blocking is a "Physical Talent" while Pass Blocking is more "Technique".
Obviously you need technique and the physical tools to do both well at this level......this is all at the Nth degree.
But I wonder if Pass Blocking might be easier to "Develop" then Run Blocking. Run Blocking a guy is either a "Mauler" or he isnt.
If my theory holds any water.....then the Kline love makes sense.
They could well be assessing him as "Great run Blocker, Needs coaching and technique refinement on pass blocking" which would match what many of us have observed.
If Pass Blocking is hard to teach (or a long shot to succeed at teaching) then I doubt he would have as much love from the coaches. On the flip side if Line coaches are confident that they can improve someones pass Blocking (because he has the physical tools...just needs technique) then Kline would look like a really good project.
Please anyone with more experience correct me or add to the discussion.
E5 Yaz said:MikeReiss Mike Reiss
Patriots upgrade starting center Bryan Stork (right knee) to probable for Super Bowl.
He's probable. Better be starting. That interior o-line needs to win in run blocking tomorrow.Harry Hooper said:
Tremendous, even as a backup possibility. Could be a real war of attrition tomorrow.
He was probably likely to play as Questionable; I think this is more a message. Belichick often likes to take a lot of guys off the injury report before big games, for some reason.E5 Yaz said:MikeReiss Mike Reiss
Patriots upgrade starting center Bryan Stork (right knee) to probable for Super Bowl.
ESPNStatsInfo ESPN Stats & Info
Patriots C Bryan Stork now probable. Patriots averaged 4.2 yards per rush with Stork on the field this season (3.3 without him)
JohnnyTheBone said:Stork has come a long way. There was a time we thought he was brain-damaged.