So, Kyrie is all but gone. AD a Laker. Hopefully, we can flip our picks or something else to maybe get #4. I covet Garland. Would fit perfectly.
“Wouldn’t count on” and “guaranteed late 1st rounders” are pretty different things.The Lakers have been in the lottery like six times in the past 25 years. They’re not an organization that historically loses and rebuilds. Even in a post-Lebron era, I wouldn’t count on those 1st round picks being high lottery picks.
They've been in the lottery six times in the past six years.The Lakers have been in the lottery like six times in the past 25 years. They’re not an organization that historically loses and rebuilds. Even in a post-Lebron era, I wouldn’t count on those 1st round picks being high lottery picks.
Or even like six times in the past 6 years.The Lakers have been in the lottery like six times in the past 25 years. They’re not an organization that historically loses and rebuilds. Even in a post-Lebron era, I wouldn’t count on those 1st round picks being high lottery picks.
This is your argument, seriously? They have picked 7, 2, 2, 2, and 4 in the past six seasons.The Lakers have been in the lottery like six times in the past 25 years. They’re not an organization that historically loses and rebuilds. Even in a post-Lebron era, I wouldn’t count on those 1st round picks being high lottery picks.
The Lakers haven’t been in the postseason in six years. I wouldn’t count on those picks being in the 20s.The Lakers have been in the lottery like six times in the past 25 years. They’re not an organization that historically loses and rebuilds. Even in a post-Lebron era, I wouldn’t count on those 1st round picks being high lottery picks.
I don't see how Boston gets there without giving up something that hurts.. No way NO takes 14. 22 and filler . Your talking 14 and Memphis, or Maybe 14 and Brown.So, Kyrie is all but gone. AD a Laker. Hopefully, we can flip our picks or something else to maybe get #4. I covet Garland. Would fit perfectly.
OptimistOr even like six times in the past 6 years.
I wouldn't have been surprised to see someone jump in, Denver has attractive assets to move, Portland might give up CJ, maybe Brooklyn jumps in and give up LeVert +I’d love to hear what Griffin’s alternate plan should have been. Hold onto Davis another 6 months and hope that a team fell out of the sky with a better offer? All but a few teams would know he’s a rental so they’d presumably have put their best offer out there now if they had interest.
They wouldn't. I mean maybe Danny falls in love with someone, but most of the talk has been that 4-10, maybe even 4-15 is a pretty flat tier.Asking for a friend: Is what the Celtics could get at 4 going to be an improvement on what they'd trade to get the pick?
I would have gambled on the one year rental, but not at anything close to that price.A lot of you are bummed, but I'm happy the C's didn't beat that offer.
He was essentially bidding against himself.
The Magic seal of approval officially makes this a bad trade for the Lakers.
So you re saying that the Lakers are AJ Soprano basically. I have to admit, the analogy holds on many levels, since the Lakers seem to be behaving as dumb as AJ.It’s infuriating that the Lakers get rewarded for drafting poorly at #2 (not one Laker fan is going to miss Ingram nor Ball) while Ainge drafted so well at #3 in the same drafts. It’s like watching some rich kid land a 100K job out of college even though he is an idiot while you busted your ass for years.
What if the GM of New Orleans knows what a LeBron-led franchise is like? This is a deal where New Orleans is banking on Laker missteps.New Orleans must love Ball and Ingram, or must be REALLY convinced that the Lakers will crash and burn post-Lebron. Because on paper they got nothing high end in return.
Its hilarious in lieu of his Pelinka comments after stepping down. The interesting thing will now be who chases rings with a LeBron-Davis-Kuzma-Walker core. With the Warriors weaker one way or another and Kawhi potentially on the move, there may be more veterans than usual willing to gamble for one season that LeBron/Davis can deliver on their promise.The Magic seal of approval officially makes this a bad trade for the Lakers.
Thanks Earv!
Me too. Glad to see Tatum remain with the Celtics and looking forward to continuing to watch him grow.This is 100% where I am.
Considering they didn't make the deal, maybe they don't think that differently.and I know ownership obviously thinks differently,
Eh. We just saw Toronto will the NBA title after pretty much everyone gave it to the Warriors. Things happen.No one wanted Kawhi last year either.
The path to serious championship contention has closed for awhile.
True, but I was trying to insinuate the point of ownership always wanting a championship due to added franchise value and added playoff revenue, they wouldn’t be as ok with “just a likable team”Considering they didn't make the deal, maybe they don't think that differently.
Wait can I now love to hate him instead of hating him? I’ve never wanted him to be more right... or ever right. Ok now I feel dirty
yeah again sorry I wasn’t referring to the point of the front office wanting a likable team, yeah they want to win at almost all costs.Yeah I think the takeaway is that Ainge and team didn't believe they would have any success convincing Davis to stay, especially with Irving all but gone. Griffin clearly wanted a package centered around Tatum and the Celtics couldn't stomach Tatum for a one and done.
I am not sure the team being "likable" means anything to the Celtics front office - if they thought they could compete for one season with Kyrie and Davis, I think they would have done the trade.
Assuming that Walker turns down the Charlotte cash for whatever the Lakers can give him.Its hilarious in lieu of his Pelinka comments after stepping down. The interesting thing will now be who chases rings with a LeBron-Davis-Kuzma-Walker core. With the Warriors weaker one way or another and Kawhi potentially on the move, there may be more veterans than usual willing to gamble for one season that LeBron/Davis can deliver on their promise.
Assuming Kemba is willing to give up something like what $50-$60m by not taking the supermaxIts hilarious in lieu of his Pelinka comments after stepping down. The interesting thing will now be who chases rings with a LeBron-Davis-Kuzma-Walker core. With the Warriors weaker one way or another and Kawhi potentially on the move, there may be more veterans than usual willing to gamble for one season that LeBron/Davis can deliver on their promise.
Yeah, I'm just glad it's over. Let's see what Trader Danny can do with this hand.I am completely at peace with this. Thank God we can close the book on Kyrie Irving in Boston.
The C's have multiple two-way wings with size and length - the most important and difficult to find players in the NBA.
I trust Danny to find a scoring PG and some athletic bigs to put around them. Especially with the draft capital he still has.
New Orleans must love Ball and Ingram, or must be REALLY convinced that the Lakers will crash and burn post-Lebron. Because on paper they got nothing high end in return.
I'm kind of surprised the Knicks couldn't beat that deal with an offer centered on #3, since they're the other team that could have kept AD long-term.
I'm low on Lonzo, but him running the break with Zion should be a lot of fun.Zion, Zo and Jrue is a helluva defensive core. Will be a fun team to watch, but Zion will have the same spacing problems he saw at Duke with Zo and Ingram.
It sucks that AD’s a Laker, but when his agent was doing everything in his power to make that happen, feels pretty inevitable. Maybe AD hates playing with the Lebron circus and bolts after this year. That would be poetic. I’m glad we didn’t give up Tatum. He had an off year, but I still really believe he’s a perennial All Star soon. And losing Marcus Smart would’ve really hurt. Root-ability does matter to me, particularly with the Celtics, so I’m excited to watch this team grow.
Two days ago, Kemba said he would take less than the max to stay, so I guess we'll find out what's more important to him - CHA or super team with a path to a championship.Assuming Kemba is willing to give up something like what $50-$60m by not taking the supermax
I feel like the Kemba thing is essentially already done behind closed doors, I don't think you go all in like this from LA's perspective unless you know who you can definitely get as the third guy.Two days ago, Kemba said he would take less than the max to stay, so I guess we'll find out what's more important to him - CHA or super team with a path to a championship.
Like ACL tears and Achilles blowouts.Eh. We just saw Toronto will the NBA title after pretty much everyone gave it to the Warriors. Things happen.
The Lakers may well pay a heavy price for this in 5 years, but yeah this is a great deal for them for the next 3-4 years. It will be interesting to see how the Lakers are about to get about 5 more guys who can contribute on to the rosterI feel like the Kemba thing is essentially already done behind closed doors, I don't think you go all in like this from LA's perspective unless you know who you can definitely get as the third guy.
Biggest name > better haul ... or something like that, I thinkAre people bagging on Griffin? He killed it with this deal. It’s basically the deadline deal plus the Nets deal. You can’t do better.