7/19 MiLB Gameday: Workman, Owens and a Drive Doubleheader

seantoo · Jul 19, 2014

Otto or anyone else going to see the SeaDogs and Henry Owens pitch against the Fishercats in Manchester this evening?

Apisith · Jul 19, 2014

I'm wondering why we seem to taking it slow with Owens. Results-wise, he seems to be too good for AA, so I'm wondering if the coaching staff are waiting for him to show some more development in other aspects such as execution or command before sending him up.

Stan Papi Was Framed · Jul 19, 2014

Apisith said:
I'm wondering why we seem to taking it slow with Owens. Results-wise, he seems to be too good for AA, so I'm wondering if the coaching staff are waiting for him to show some more development in other aspects such as execution or command before sending him up.

isn't there an issue with rotation spots for now?

Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat · Jul 19, 2014

Stan Papi Was Framed said:
isn't there an issue with rotation spots for now?

There is no way they'd let that be a factor if they were ready to promote Owens.

Stan Papi Was Framed · Jul 19, 2014

Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
There is no way they'd let that be a factor if they were ready to promote Owens.

I agree in principle. but if they expect a spot to open up soon (presumable once Workman is promoted), maybe they're waiting for that. Just trying to sort it out as I am otherwise not sure why he wouldn't be up in Pawtucket now

Mike F · Jul 19, 2014

Maybe he's working on a pitch. Some late movement on the FB or tightening the curve.
It makes sense to let him explore in AA where he
won't get killed as the pitch fails.

JakeRae · Jul 19, 2014

Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
There is no way they'd let that be a factor if they were ready to promote Owens.

While this is a generally true statement, this may be the exception to the rule in this regard. Workman, Ranaudo, Webster, and Barnes are all guys who have the potential to be MLB starters. Wright is pitching exceptionally well this year and, as a knuckleballer, is a potential late bloomer. Chris Hernandez could get bumped, but that still doesn't really create room for Owens. Owens isn't going to pitch in MLB this season, so there is little harm in keeping him in AA for the remainder of the season and then giving him a job in AAA next year.

RoDaddy · Jul 19, 2014

Mike F said:
Maybe he's working on a pitch. Some late movement on the FB or tightening the curve.

I thought he said he's working on the curve and throwing more; isn't that why he made a big deal about his first Futures game pitch, which was a curve?

WMB with a dinger tonight. He looks rehabbed. I think there's a decent chance he'll be promoted soon to play 3rd with X back to short, especially if Drew continues to struggle

Plympton91 · Jul 19, 2014

Drew isn't struggling right now. He has an 800+ OPS in July.

Middlebrooks may be rehabbed but does he deserve a major league everyday lineup slot based on his healthy performance?

It really does seem like refining his curve would be key for Owens given recent scouting reports of meh velocity. But, I thought there was an Article a couple years back where the Red Sox and some other experts had decided that it was very difficult to "teach" the ability to spin the ball? So that may be easier said than done. Maybe he can learn a split instead at some point; probably don't want him messing with that yet though.

mabrowndog · Jul 19, 2014

PawSox ‏@PawSox 11s
Welcome to Pawtucket Ryan Verdugo as new PawSox reliever strikes out the Buffalo side in the 8th-inning. PawSox lead 3-1 going to B8th.

mabrowndog · Jul 19, 2014

Mike Antonellis ‏@seadogsradio 2m
two more hits for Peter Hissey tonight, hitting .368 (35-for-95) in his last 27 games.

Tim Salmon · Jul 19, 2014

Let's hit restart on Michael Chavis' professional career.

mabrowndog · Jul 19, 2014

PawSox ‏@PawSox 3m
PawSox beat Buffalo 3-1 for their 4th straight win. They go for the 4-game sweep on Sunday

Celestino with the save.

mabrowndog · Jul 19, 2014

Mike Antonellis ‏@seadogsradio 1m
Probably the night for Owens, who works six strong innings…has a chance for his 9th straight win. ‘Dogs lead 10-2 after six.

Kevin Thomas ‏@ClearTheBases 3m

Owens likely done after 7 IP: 8 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 6 K. 96 pitches/ 61 strikes

Plympton91 · Jul 19, 2014

Where has Reid Gragnani gone? I don't remember seeing him mentioned as an injury?

mabrowndog · Jul 19, 2014

Rumor's of Henry's exit were greatly exaggerated:

Portland Sea Dogs ‏@PortlandSeaDogs now
Owens back out there for the 7th! #SeaDogsBaseball

mabrowndog · Jul 19, 2014

Kevin Thomas ‏@ClearTheBases 50s
Andy Burns triples off Owens, ending his night. one out in the 7th. Dogs up 10-2

mabrowndog · Jul 19, 2014

Not a great return from the DL for Simon Mercedes. Two singles, a 3-run HR (by old friend Oscar Tejeda), and two more hits before getting out of the 1st as Salem loses 6-1.

Plympton91 · Jul 19, 2014

Good results for Ball in 5 innings tonight; 2 H, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 4 strikeouts.

LeftyTG · Jul 20, 2014

Coyle with 5k's tonight, making 8ks in his 10PAs since the future game. Ouch.

southshoresoxfan · Jul 20, 2014

Was at mccoy tonight. Ball was jumping off WMBs bat all night and he laid off quite a few offspeed offerings. Just some first hand knowledge

seantoo · Jul 22, 2014

Cuzittt said:
Seadogs win 10-3.

Boxscore

Henry Owens wins #13, going 6 1/3 innings, allowing 2 runs on 9 hits and a walk; striking out 6. Noe Ramirez went 2 2/3 innings, allowing a run on 2 hits, a walk and a WP; striking out 2.

Ryan Dent went 3/4 with a double. Shannon Wilkerson went 3/5 with a double. Peter Hissey went 2/4 with a double. Blake Swihart went 2/5 with a HR. Michael Almanzar went 1/3 with a HBP before being replaced by Michael Brenly who went 0/1. Jonathan Roof went 1/4. Stefan Welch went 1/5. Derrik Gibson went 0/4 with a walk. Sean Coyle went 0/5 with 5 Ks.

Swihart's HR was a bomb and he had easy power meaning you could not tell on the swing alone, it looked like a hard single or more likely a double off the easy short compact swing. I've been to over 30 games there and no-one had hit it over the Sam Adams Pavilion until the other night.
Owens as has been described has a great change up with good arm speed and several hitters swung way ahead of his swing and miss plus change-up pitch. He also threw several curveballs that were swing and miss pitches often after swinging badly at a change-up. I finally got to see and him and came away fairly impressed.

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