Kolek could be that overachiever type if he falls to us and Devin Carters defense is also intriguing. They both may be gone but lots can happen from now until the draft.
2024 NBA Draft
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I'd just go best player available, mostly because I think Drew Peterson is that developmental "poor man's 3&D wing"
Yep, right out of Brad's cookbook
Deal #30 for 3 future 2nds (to be used at the '25 trade deadline) + draft a 2nd
Use the 2024 2nd on a decorated upperclassman (like TJD or AJax) on one of those cheap 2nd round deals
Have no idea what they do with JDD & Petersen but they need to bring Luke/Tillman/Queta back
View: https://twitter.com/ringernba/status/1767228561579298832
KOC has Reed Sheppard at No. 1 in his mock. Wait, what?
KOC has Reed Sheppard at No. 1 in his mock. Wait, what?
KOC went with the notion that Shepard would be the best player next to Wemby, although I think it's pretty likely SA trades that pick if they were to get the #1 overall pick. Shepard might be the most "NBA ready" player in the Top 5-6, which tells you a lot about how weak this draft is.
I remember first hearing about Shepard a few years ago, in an article talking about the frustration from longtime UK fans that were mad that Calipari was always focused on getting one-and-done recruits and the team stopped being a true top team and how Calipari should be recruiting this kid from a smalltown in Kentucky that was lighting up high school ball. Pretty ironic that kid turned into another Coach Cal one-and-done.
I remember first hearing about Shepard a few years ago, in an article talking about the frustration from longtime UK fans that were mad that Calipari was always focused on getting one-and-done recruits and the team stopped being a true top team and how Calipari should be recruiting this kid from a smalltown in Kentucky that was lighting up high school ball. Pretty ironic that kid turned into another Coach Cal one-and-done.
That Rob Dillingham is in the top 10 tells just how bad the top of this draft is. That guy just plays 0 D.
That tweet is just the prospect rankings. KOC released his own mock draft, which has the Spurs taking Shepard at #1: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft?_ga=2.4602099.1394927385.1710198590-520686970.1709927046
The mock is a little silly at this point, since we have no idea what the draft order will be.
Yes and no. Given the relative lack of consensus among the Top 10 picks, it's possible the order will be determined more by need than just who the best prospect is. There isn't a generational talent or even a likely All-NBA talent in this draft.
I don't think it's that silly because the order of the players taken is going to largely depend on which team is drafting, much more than in a usual draft, so doing a mock while assigning teams to each pick, regardless of what the actual order ends up being, is fairly informative by detailing what each team needs.
Good interview with Jaime Jaquez Jr (1:15 start)
Plenty of discussion about being drafted as a 4-year player & the benefits behind it.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d50qTCpkrW4
Plenty of discussion about being drafted as a 4-year player & the benefits behind it.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d50qTCpkrW4
Projecting 18 year olds isn’t a perfect science but physical skills far outweigh college performance against different rules and systems. Furphy at Kansas is another. I still see mocks w Edey in it….how is he ever going to see an NBA floor in 2024? His offense can be Muresan/Boban but his defense will be similar making him unplayable.
This draft is a nightmare. I see a lot of guys that I think can be turned into useful NBA rotation players. And I know that somewhere in that pool is an all star, because there always is. But damned if I can see them. Alexandre Sarr maybe? But it’s tough to evaluate his athleticism against NBL competition. Risacher reminds me of a crack whore’s Jayson Tatum. I like Johnny Furphy, but mostly because his name’s fun to say out loud.
Thoughts on Tyler Kolek and Devin Carter? I think both grind enough and have an underrated NBA skill, they compete, that I think can carry them to long careers.
You’re clearly baiting me with Marquette’s PG. I’m with you on Carter, though. He’s one of those guys that I can easily see playing 10-12 years in the NBA. He’s just really really solid player that plays good D. I wouldn’t be upset if he floated to #30 for Boston.
Lol no I honestly have missed any comments you’ve made on him. He’s a throwback high-IQ guy who has improved every time he’s made a jump in competition since he was a freshman in HS. Is there not a place in the league for the offspring of Pritchard and Giddey?
Edit: Just realized I played on a rec league team one year with both Kolek’s and Joe Mazzulla’s Dad. Fuckin old.
He either gets drafted by the Lakers with the 2nd round pick they got from the Clippers and Lebron signs a new deal in LA, or he transfers and signs a big NIL deal with someone looking to get into the Lebron business.
I don’t think it’s set in stone that he wouldn’t return to a school other than USC. Going through the draft process under todays rules is something all borderline draft picks should do.
Yeah, I think this is about optionality isn't it? Unlike many, he doesn't really need the money from turning pro (and doesn't need an agent, since his dad is fully capable of that AND surely can be the conduit to agent advice anyway). So he can do it this way and decide by June 12 if he wants to go back to USC; go to some other school; or stay in draft. And Dad has until June 29 to opt into his next year option for Lakers (or, of course, do whatever he feels like contractually with whoever he feels like doing it with). Which is after NBA draft on June 27.
Kind of like the move. If Lebron decides he wants to be in Miami, Bronny can transfer there! or be drafted there. If Lebron wants to stay a Laker, he can tell Lakers to draft Bronny. etc.
The one small risk: someone else wastes a second-round pick just to spoil whatever their plan might be.
Also....Lebron (acting as Bronny's father) can talk to teams when Lebron (as a pending FA) can't, right?
Kind of like the move. If Lebron decides he wants to be in Miami, Bronny can transfer there! or be drafted there. If Lebron wants to stay a Laker, he can tell Lakers to draft Bronny. etc.
The one small risk: someone else wastes a second-round pick just to spoil whatever their plan might be.
Also....Lebron (acting as Bronny's father) can talk to teams when Lebron (as a pending FA) can't, right?
It would be funny as hell if some team swooped the LAL (assuming LeBron stays there) and picked Bronny. But I give this basically zero chance of happening. There's just no reason to piss off the LeBron Industrial Complex like that. If Bronny was a top prospect, OK, but not for a 15th man. LeBron himself could make this super-interesting and just declare he'll go to whomever picks Bronny on a team friendly deal. But that's not happening either.
My dream scenario is a Celtics title followed by Brad smugly taking Bronny at #53, two spots ahead of LAL.
Didn’t LeBron say earlier this year that Bronny told him that he didn’t want to play with him that caused LeBron to sadly say that it was ok if Bronny didn’t want to play with him and he would respect whatever decision he made?
I still think Bronny’s skillset, once/if developed, would be a great fit on this Celtics team.
He real trouble getting minutes in the FIBA WC for that reason, and FIBA favors the post up more than the NBA. He made every shot for Canada but was victimized in pick and roll. I can't wait for @scottyno to tear you a new one over this take.
You want to make a bet that he gets drafted and sees the floor next season? I have no opinion about how good he'll be in the NBA, but he's in literally every mock draft I've seen, basically all in the 1st round, that's why your take was so terrible.
Why don’t you have an opinion on his potential NBA impact? You watch basketball. You’ve presumably watched Clingan enough to form an opinion.
If you’re going to call a respected poster’s take “terrible”, something that wasn’t necessary, then give us yours. Adding that you’ve seen someone’s name in a mock draft adds little value to the discussion.
And, to be fair, I’ll give mine. I see a Jakob Poetl-type career impact for Clingan. He won’t score much early on but should be able to carve out a role due to his defensive abilities. I don’t see more than 10-12ppg upside here. All in all, I see a valuable rotation big but someone who may be merely a situational big early on as he adjusts to the speed of the NBA game.
I think he’s taking about Edey?
And I normally trust the draft experts like Givony and KOC but I really can’t see it for Edey at all. He’s very big but he’s not that strong or tough and he can’t keep up with pick and rool defense. I would be shocked if he turned out to be a starter on an NBA team
Whoops, 100% my bad then. I think I conflated threads in my head.
Ok, take 2 on my draft analysis although the first part of my response remains. I agree that I don’t see an NBA future for Edey. Maybe a couple years on a rookie deal and that’s it. Too immobile based on what I’ve seen.
I am completely shocked that his ranking is now in the 10-15 range. I think he’s a 10-15 minute, Luke Kornet type player. That’s just not worth much today.
My take was that a guy who is listed in the first round of nearly all if not every mock draft will be in the NBA next year, Reggie's take was that that same player won't be in the NBA next year. He could easily never become anything, but there's basically no chance he isn't in the NBA next year.
Are we counting G League? I think he’ll be a first round pick, mostly because this draft looks awful, but I do wonder whether he’ll be on an active roster all year.
I’m sure he’ll be on a teams 15-man roster so yes he’ll be in the NBA. Anything more than a Tacko Fall-like impact and I’ll eat a log of Boban’s shit!