2022 Masters

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10:34 Tiger, Oosthuizen, Niemann
10:56: Scott, Scheffler, Finau

1:30 DJ, Horschel, Morikawa
1:52 Spieth, Hovland, Xander
 

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Padraig Harrington is -2 through 4.

If you're wondering how in the hell he qualified, like I was, it's because he finished in the top 4 at last years PGA.
 
A few Tiger vs. Jack Masters facts for you as we get up and running today:

Number of wins: Jack 6, Tiger 5
Span between first and last wins: Jack 23 years, Tiger 22 years
Span between penultimate and last wins: Jack 11 years, Tiger 14 years

At least superficially similar, right? I mention this because this is what Jack did in the 12 years after his last win in 1986, until he reached age 58: T7 (1987), T21, T18, 6th (1990), T35, T42, T27, Cut, T35, T41, T39, T6 (1998). I bring this up because that strikes me as the sort of range of results we might expect to get from Tiger going forward: course knowledge and experience will always benefit him, and I don't expect him to miss any cuts unless he's really hurt, and I expect him to make at least one more run at a green jacket at some point, but can he actually win it? We'll see...
 

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A few Tiger vs. Jack Masters facts for you as we get up and running today:

Number of wins: Jack 6, Tiger 5
Span between first and last wins: Jack 23 years, Tiger 22 years
Span between penultimate and last wins: Jack 11 years, Tiger 14 years

At least superficially similar, right? I mention this because this is what Jack did in the 12 years after his last win in 1986, until he reached age 58: T7 (1987), T21, T18, 6th (1990), T35, T42, T27, Cut, T35, T41, T39, T6 (1998). I bring this up because that strikes me as the sort of range of results we might expect to get from Tiger going forward: course knowledge and experience will always benefit him, and I don't expect him to miss any cuts unless he's really hurt, and I expect him to make at least one more run at a green jacket at some point, but can he actually win it? We'll see...
That 1998 6th always sticks out to me. He was 58, a month short of hip replacement (maybe double?) and was in contention until the final few holes. He barely missed an eagle chip late that would have moved him into 2nd, IIRC. As long as his nerves are intact, if a guy can make a run, he can win. I'll be surprised if Tiger can make a run this year.
 

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Couples playing with a yellow ball is something.
think I saw Mize with one as well.
my dad switched over a year or 3 back and says it's much easier for him to follow in the air/find. Of course he doesn't have a course full of people and isn't playing on immaculate fairways.
 

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I've always thought about what I'd shoot at Augusta. With those greens, 120 isn't out of the question.
The problem is that a 8 putt is not out of the question on a bunch of holes. The ball just keeps rolling and rolling.

I would consider a 120 good for a hacker.
 
That 1998 6th always sticks out to me. He was 58, a month short of hip replacement (maybe double?) and was in contention until the final few holes. He barely missed an eagle chip late that would have moved him into 2nd, IIRC. As long as his nerves are intact, if a guy can make a run, he can win. I'll be surprised if Tiger can make a run this year.
Did you mean to say that you won't be surprised if Tiger can make a run this year?

Re: 1998, I still remember Jim Nantz coming on at the start of the final round broadcast saying, "You are not going to believe what is happening...", or words to that effect.
 
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I've always thought about what I'd shoot at Augusta. With those greens, 120 isn't out of the question.
No but it might make a huge difference if you played a normal round or if you had marshals and spectators and TV crews there to help you find your ball if you missed the fairway. These guys DO miss shots but almost never lose golf balls because there's an army of people who can find them. You and I go play a round anywhere and we can lose a ball three feet off the fairway, no problem. That stuff does add up.

Not saying we'd play remotely as well as these guys - they're the best in the world after all and we....aren't - but it certainly would help our scores a ton if we had people locating all the balls we shank.
 

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Couples playing with a yellow ball is something.
Why? They're aren't many in play but they're generally accepted these days. Titleist actually had to produce a yellow Pro V1 because they found were losing market share to brands with a premium yellow ball. There are still a few soccer ball patterns out there too, though less now because the Chrome Soft X eliminated the truvis pattern from its offerings.

I find the yellow ball significantly easier to see as well. Especially on cloudy days.
 

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No but it might make a huge difference if you played a normal round or if you had marshals and spectators and TV crews there to help you find your ball if you missed the fairway. These guys DO miss shots but almost never lose golf balls because there's an army of people who can find them. You and I go play a round anywhere and we can lose a ball three feet off the fairway, no problem. That stuff does add up.

Not saying we'd play remotely as well as these guys - they're the best in the world after all and we....aren't - but it certainly would help our scores a ton if we had people locating all the balls we shank.
I have no doubt the spectators 3 feet away would cost me more strokes than what I would gain in help finding a ball in the rough.
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No but it might make a huge difference if you played a normal round or if you had marshals and spectators and TV crews there to help you find your ball if you missed the fairway. These guys DO miss shots but almost never lose golf balls because there's an army of people who can find them. You and I go play a round anywhere and we can lose a ball three feet off the fairway, no problem. That stuff does add up.

Not saying we'd play remotely as well as these guys - they're the best in the world after all and we....aren't - but it certainly would help our scores a ton if we had people locating all the balls we shank.
FWIW, I don't think lost balls in play would be a huge deal for amateur players at Augusta. There's basically no rough, and even in the pine straw the ball is usually sitting up and not burried.
 

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Why? They're aren't many in play but they're generally accepted these days. Titleist actually had to produce a yellow Pro V1 because they found were losing market share to brands with a premium yellow ball. There are still a few soccer ball patterns out there too, though less now because the Chrome Soft X eliminated the truvis pattern from its offerings.

I find the yellow ball significantly easier to see as well. Especially on cloudy days.
Just not the traditional thing to play with at the PGA level, that's all. I don't mind playing with a colored ball.