He has to have an NTC or a trade kicker or an opt out, right?I saw when this rumor first came out that people were saying Franco has said he's a 300M man and would not sign. I had a feeling though he would sign. It's just so much money guaranteed right now.
Can't imagine the Rays would include a no-trade. Opt-out maybe. My guess is it is a back-loaded deal so the Rays can trade him in year 7 or 8 when the really big money kicks in, a la Longoria.He has to have an NTC or a trade kicker or an opt out, right?
It may be, but this is the only way Tampa gets an A-list all-star for the long term. If he waits a year or two, he might be tempted to just gut it out til free agency, or you’ll have to increase the AAV to more like $25m. Tampa's had him in their system for four full seasons, they know what he is better than anyone. Of course there's a lot of risk here but there's never going to be a sure-r thing at a cheaper price, and a higher price just pushes tampa out of the conversation altogether.Am I the only one who thinks this was a little premature? The guy doesn't even have 300 at-bats and they've already committed to him for 12 years. At least let him play a full season or two and see if the hype is real.
That's what the Padres did with Tatis and they paid a lot more than the Rays just paid.Am I the only one who thinks this was a little premature? The guy doesn't even have 300 at-bats and they've already committed to him for 12 years. At least let him play a full season or two and see if the hype is real.
Nope. I’m very interested to see how this deal plays out. This deal feels a bit different in kind than Acuña’s given the MLB playing time.Am I the only one who thinks this was a little premature? The guy doesn't even have 300 at-bats and they've already committed to him for 12 years. At least let him play a full season or two and see if the hype is real.
Looks like it's a done deal. A monster deal for Wander Franco.
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Yes, but in exchange they got some additional feedback. I think that's the tradeoff they're talking about.That's what the Padres did with Tatis and they paid a lot more than the Rays just paid.
I mean, obviously, but the Rays can't afford to wait for that and the higher price that would accompany it. Franco has been the most sure-thing prospect according to every scout for years now, he backed it up with a half season in the bigs, and now everyone wins (probably).Yes, but in exchange they got some additional feedback. I think that's the tradeoff they're talking about.
The idea anyway is so that if/when he gets traded the new team would extend him and also that he would have some say in where he gets traded. But if he didn't get that...Can't imagine the Rays would include a no-trade. Opt-out maybe. My guess is it is a back-loaded deal so the Rays can trade him in year 7 or 8 when the really big money kicks in, a la Longoria.
It's not even new territory for the Rays. Longoria had barely been up for a week when he signed his first long term deal (six years plus three club options). Then they extended him again while also picking up those options. Then, of course, they traded him before that last extension (and the real money) officially kicked in.That's what the Padres did with Tatis and they paid a lot more than the Rays just paid.
It will look nice if they ever get IN to Tampa, instead of the hardest-to-get to section of St. Petersburg.That deal will look even nicer for them if they ever get out of Tampa.
Stacked bullpen.According to MLB Network, John Heyman reports Kendall Graveman to Chicago White Sox. Three years, $24 M
Allegedly they picked up his option to trade him. I just can't imagine the market at that price is very strong for him, even the Phillies and Angels have their limits.Probably trading off Kimbrell?
There's always the Mets ... Never overestimate a franchise whose team name is four letters long and ends in -etsAllegedly they picked up his option to trade him. I just can't imagine the market at that price is very strong for him, even the Phillies and Angels have their limits.
Even THEY d...There's always the Mets ... Never overestimate a franchise whose team name is four letters long and ends in -ets
I mean, a hundred eighty five million dollars, and he will be a FA at age 32, whereupon he will likely land another mammoth contract. Wander just set up a dozen generations of his family for life and will almost certainly add to that in twelve years.This is probably less that he would make than he would if his career took it's most likely path. But he's going to have 100 careers and average them all. He's going to have one. And if for whatever reason his career does not go as projected, neither Scott Boras or the Player's Association will give him the money he missed out on. Wander took care of Wander. Good for him.
You mean, apart from the Acuña and Albies contracts with the Braves?Wow. I think we’ll be talking about this deal as the most team friendly steal in memory within three years from now.
The reason it's so little, relatively speaking, is that if he wasn't even arb eligble for 2 more years, so he was hardly going to make anything. If you wait and aren't buying out those years then the arb and post arb years become a lot more expensive.Am I the only one who thinks this was a little premature? The guy doesn't even have 300 at-bats and they've already committed to him for 12 years. At least let him play a full season or two and see if the hype is real.
Just a periodic friendly reminder/perspective: The MLB minimum salary of $570k is about 8 times what the median U.S. family makes in a year. Which is to say, the platform from which these guys, in their early to late 20s, view their financial options is light years beyond what 95% of the public can relate to...The reason it's so little, relatively speaking, is that if he wasn't even arb eligible for 2 more years, so he was hardly going to make anything. ...
True, but almost everyone in their professional circle are multimillionaires with fancy cars and houses spending tons of cash on dinners and such, so it’s also a keeping up with the Joneses thing.Just a periodic friendly reminder/perspective: The MLB minimum salary of $570k is about 8 times what the median U.S. family makes in a year. Which is to say, the platform from which these guys, in their early to late 20s, view their financial options is light years beyond what 95% of the public can relate to...
Speaking of worrying about money, is there any hint of up-front money, such as a signing bonus? I'm wondering about a guy who has only had one year of MLB paychecks, heading into a near-certain labor stoppage. There's that near-term money worry that might have influenced his decision-making, if there was any up-front sum payment to mitigate that risk.I mean, a hundred eighty five million dollars, and he will be a FA at age 32, whereupon he will likely land another mammoth contract. Wander just set up a dozen generations of his family for life and will almost certainly add to that in twelve years.
Yes he maybe could have made more if he held out, but suddenly he never ever ever needs to worry about money again.
They also have around a decade to make the bulk of their money.Just a periodic friendly reminder/perspective: The MLB minimum salary of $570k is about 8 times what the median U.S. family makes in a year. Which is to say, the platform from which these guys, in their early to late 20s, view their financial options is light years beyond what 95% of the public can relate to...
That's also true. But most Americans will never come close in their entire lifetimes to earning what a major league baseball player can make in one year with an even "modest" contract. At $50k a year on average working for 45 years, a typical American might earn $2.3 million. Wander signed as a 16-year old international free agent and collected a signing bonus of $3.8 million. He could have stopped playing baseball - or doing any other work for the rest of his life - and lived a happy, middle-of-the-road American lifestyle until he died. Actually a better lifestyle than that.They also have around a decade to make the bulk of their money.
Right now, Frazier is being listed as a "super utility" player (but he looks like an upgrade at 2B for the Ms) and DiPito said he's made several offers on free agents, including a "notable" offer, whatever that means.
Mariners people on Twitter think it means Story, fwiw.Right now, Frazier is being listed as a "super utility" player (but he looks like an upgrade at 2B for the Ms) and DiPito said he's made several offers on free agents, including a "notable" offer, whatever that means.
He’s good when healthy, but he’s on the train to Buxton-ville. He messed his knee up last year and I’ve read that there’s some question whether or not he’ll be ready by opening day next year.I think some team could steal Kyle Lewis but I don't think he's a good fit for Boston.
"Among other teams" leaves that door open. I'm guessing by tomorrow there will be at least 2 more teams "in on" Scherzer.What no mystery team? Where is Heyman?
Every team with dreams of contending should at least kick the tires. He's the best pitcher available and will only require a short deal because of his age."Among other teams" leaves that door open. I'm guessing by tomorrow there will be at least 2 more teams "in on" Scherzer.