I generally don't play the trade game, but if the farm is empty, would Sox trade 10-D and or Chavis (Devers is not going anywhere) for a good set-up guy or closer?
Who plays LF this year?I generally don't play the trade game, but if the farm is empty, would Sox trade 10-D and or Chavis (Devers is not going anywhere) for a good set-up guy or closer?
platoon at Fenway, JD, Brock 2-way, or deal for a another utility guy. If we want a real chance in October they need another late inning guy.Who plays LF this year?
There is no way in hell I'd trade Benintendi for a reliever. I highly doubt DD would either.I generally don't play the trade game, but if the farm is empty, would Sox trade 10-D and or Chavis (Devers is not going anywhere) for a good set-up guy or closer?
Keep shortening games and you need less and less from your starters.The Yankees need another closer?
Not when you can get one for JD ... then wink-sign him next yearThere is no way in hell I'd trade Benintendi for a reliever. I highly doubt DD would either.
So you're saying there's a chance?There is no way in hell I'd trade Benintendi for a reliever. I highly doubt DD would either.
The Sox also need cost controlled guys to offset so many expensive contracts. The value of Benintendi, Rodriguez, and Devers extends beyond their on-field talent.So you're saying there's a chance?
I like 10-D a lot, he's going to be around for a long time, I like Chavis too, and I would prefer not trading either guy, but given the sentiment they don't have prospect currency to get good late inning guy and compete in the trade market with other teams, my proposal was in response to the "Sox were in on Diaz". And if they don't have prospects then they have to deal everyday guys, and presumably guys with a decent upside and years of control that the Mets would want.
I understand.The Sox also need cost controlled guys to offset so many expensive contracts. The value of Benintendi, Rodriguez, and Devers extends beyond their on-field talent.
The real answer is that they aren't theoretically competitive, unless the Mets love Chavis and DarwinsonI understand.
The point was if they are in on Diaz and have no prospect currency to be competive with other bidders for Diaz, what is the currency they are using to theoretically be competitive?
Chavis wouldn’t seem to have a spot there behind Cano, Alonso, Lowrie, Smith, and McNeil, and they’re already taken on a similar hitting project in J.D. Davis. Beni seems too similar to Nimmo, but who knows.The real answer is that they aren't theoretically competitive, unless the Mets love Chavis and Darwinson
JBJ is under team control for one more season after this one. Do you think the Mets will be good next season?I wonder if either team would do JBJ for Diaz. Mets really need a CF.
Never try to apply logic or common sense to Mets moves, the rumors today is that they want to move Syndergaard (under contract through 2021) and Diaz (under contract longer than that) and then trade for Stroman (under contract through 2020).I expect they'll be interested in players they could control through 2023 or 2024, lining up a wave of young talent with Alonso, McNeil, and Frazier to go with the newly extended deGrom and Syndergaard (if he stays).
You would know better than I, but I can't see giving up on Diaz unless they got a couple of proven players that can help sure up other deficiencies now and moving Diaz just creates more question marks in an already horrible bullpen. I get that you have to keep an open mind while looking to the future but moving Diaz and Thor IMO moves the Mets further from competing than closer.Never try to apply logic or common sense to Mets moves, the rumors today is that they want to move Syndergaard (under contract through 2021) and Diaz (under contract longer than that) and then trade for Stroman (under contract through 2020).
Frazier? Perhaps Rosario or Conforto?JBJ is under team control for one more season after this one. Do you think the Mets will be good next season?
I expect they'll be interested in players they could control through 2023 or 2024, lining up a wave of young talent with Alonso, McNeil, and Frazier to go with the newly extended deGrom and Syndergaard (if he stays).
I'm just going by the reporting, Andy Martino on Twitter always has good Mets management sources.You would know better than I, but I can't see giving up on Diaz unless they got a couple of proven players that can help sure up other deficiencies now and moving Diaz just creates more question marks in an already horrible bullpen. I get that you have to keep an open mind while looking to the future but moving Diaz and Thor IMO moves the Mets further from competing than closer.
Shane Greene, Ken Giles, Felipe Vasquez, and Kirby Yates are probably the 4 premium relievers who might still be moved.Diaz is 99% likely smoke.
Regardless, we are certainly not selling now. I think they will try to get one cheap reliever by the deadline. the Giants seem to set to [foolishly] not sell, and Sergio Romo is going to the Twins. so who does that leave...
Nice catch.Frazier? Perhaps Rosario or Conforto?
Giles is a hell of a target and hasn’t allowed a homer to a right-handed hitter this year. Greene, on the other hand, has been extraordinarily lucky.I’d love Greene or Giles; and of course Thor.
Yes, Greene seems like one of the least appealing targets out there -- he could be somewhat expensive because while he's compiled many Saves (as we all know, an inherently strange and controversial statistic) all of his peripheral stats show he's gotten incredibly fortunate while doing it (a .180 BABIP, a 3.43 SIERA vs a 1.22 ERA).Giles is a hell of a target and hasn’t allowed a homer to a right-handed hitter this year. Greene, on the other hand, has been extraordinarily lucky.
Indeed. The games will get so shortened by all their closers that the starters won't qualify for wins anymore. Cashman will somehow manage to acquire him for the retired Tulowitski.The Yankees need another closer?
Maybe his recent scuffles have lowered his asking price. He gave up another homer today.Buster Olney says there’s growing confidence the Red Sox think they can make an impactful deal. He speculates Diaz is their target due to his low salary.
He's pretty much sucked all year.Maybe his recent scuffles have lowered his asking price. He gave up another homer today.
No way in hell.
JBJ yes. Benintendi....no.
JBJ and Chavis I’ll go for it.JBJ yes. Benintendi....no.
Porky is cooked.I’ll throw out an obvious question. We have 5 starters plus Eovaldi. What gives if we acquire a starter?
Sure but you have to do something with him. Seems unlikely.Porky is cooked.
Send him to the MFYSure but you have to do something with him. Seems unlikely.
LeClerc retired 1 of the 6 batters he faced today, walking 3. He’d fit right in to this crew.Giles is a hell of a target and hasn’t allowed a homer to a right-handed hitter this year. Greene, on the other hand, has been extraordinarily lucky.
Workman’s probably a better closer than anyone we’d be able to get anyway, he just needs some support. With a pretty good number of teams on the cusp, I think DD may have to be sneakier than trading for a proven closer.
As it stands I’d be pretty happy with moving someone for Jose Leclerc, Seth Lugo, or Amir Garrett. If Arizona, Texas and SF sell, then Archie Bradley, Andrew Chafin, Chris Martin and Reyes Moronta are also good options. My stealth guy is Miguel Castro.
Leclerc pitched three days in a row and four of the last five. He is 6th among relievers in wOBA allowed in 2018-19, a hair better than Ottavino and Pressly.LeClerc retired 1 of the 6 batters he faced today, walking 3. He’d fit right in to this crew.
I’m really confused as to why nobody could beat that offer from the Mets.The price tag the Mets just paid for 1.5 seasons of Marcus Stroman (two decent pitching prospects, neither in the top 100) makes me feel for the first time like we might actually be able to acquire someone.
The best explanation I’ve seen of that deal was that the Mets, trying to sell SP, realized how low the going rate was and decided to buy instead.I’m really confused as to why nobody could beat that offer from the Mets.
If that’s true, I’d applaud them for it. Stroman is a really solid SP and is signed for another year. Just am surprised that Houston and NYY wouldn’t beat that offer when they easily could have. Wonder if Houston is going Thor instead.The best explanation I’ve seen of that deal was that the Mets, trying to sell SP, realized how low the going rate was and decided to buy instead.