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2018 Yankees Offseason Discussion

Discussion in 'Yankees Discussion' started by jon abbey, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Big John

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    LOL, Jim Duquette now saying that the $220M number was pure speculation on his part. He's apparently the one who reported that the Yankees had engaged with Machado.
     
  2. j-man

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    the yankees are fine on off i want dallas kechuel SP i wouild offer 4y 100 mil
     
  3. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    A lot of people are saying this, but you can’t just bump CC to the bullpen. Keuchel’s velocity has been dropping and he is yet another lefty who gets a lot of weak contact to the left side, where NY currently has the worst defensive 3B in the game.

    NY is fine on offense and pitching, their biggest issue by far is 3B defense. Andujar simply is not a MLB capable 3B and if anything, he got worse as last year progressed. It doesn’t have to be Machado, but it can’t be Miggy Statue Rock Hands.
     
  4. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    You should trademark this
     
  5. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    I actually prefer Miggy Two Bags, it describes both his offense and his defense.

    I don’t quite see how NY can fit another SP onto the roster and I doubt they’d try a six man rotation all year. NY has 11 pitching spots set currently, with Kahnle and either Cessa (no options) or German (1 option) as the last two bullpen guys. You could sign Gio Gonzalez maybe in the Cessa spot, that seems like a better fit than Keuchel, but he can probably get a guaranteed rotation spot elsewhere.
     
  6. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Also it's really odd to me how Moustakas hasn't been rumored at all to NY, he is such a good fit on paper (very solid D at 3B plus a 40+ HR LH bat to break up all the righties) that maybe E5 is right and Machado has been a fait accompli to the Bronx all along.

    If that doesn't happen, though, Moustakas and Gio would be great depth moves and keep NY well under $246M still (they are at $213M currently).
     
  7. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    I have said this before (sorry) but since I am banned again from nyyfans, I keep reading very strange interpretations of NY's current roster everywhere. For one thing, people seem to think that Tulo is disposable, and while that may be true by May, he is the starter at SS coming into camp and it is his job to lose until Didi is back, that is what they promised him when they wooed him away from like 15 other teams. I am excited about him but we will see.

    Anyway, the NY roster situation is obvious to me, they need to add a 3B from here, someone who is at least defensively average, whether that be Machado or Moustakas or Jose Iglesias or Hechavarria or even Gio Urshela (NY has him on a minor league deal, he is 27 and a very good fielder who played 3B for a lot of Ws with CLE in 2017). NY has three lefties in the rotation, two of their three back end relievers too, and no Didi to cover a bit for The Leaning Tower of Miggy ('past a leaning Andujar!'). If Boston wasn't so good, maybe it'd be ok to try Andujar (in vain) for a month or two, but they are and it is just giving away games. Ryan Braun played 3B his entire rookie season and never once again, there is your blueprint (or trade him to SD for Reyes/Margot, yay),

    Sanchez
    Voit
    Gleyber
    Tulo
    ???
    Stanton
    Hicks
    Judge
    Andujar-DH

    Bench-LeMahieu, Gardner, Romine.

    AAA-Clint, Bird, Wade, Margot if Cashman reads these boards and listens to me, heh

    I am excited for LeMahieu in the defensive supersub role they seem to have him lined up for, he will likely be an upgrade defensively at all four infield positions at least until Didi is back, so they can use analytics and pitching/lineup matches to decide which games and position his D will be the most helpful. This is why I think they need an additional 3B even if LeMahieu is better than him as I think the hope of his flexibility was the reason they got him, still trying to find their own Zobrist or Brock or Marwin and this bumps Tyler Wade back down to regular ABs in AAA where he can try to get in a groove again.
     
  8. DeadlySplitter

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    I don't agree with LeMahieu over Lowrie but it's a defensible move nonetheless. we'll see how it works out.

    the Yanks look nice & deep everywhere but starting rotation, and that might be fine depending on Paxton's health.
     
  9. jon abbey

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    Their AAA rotation now is probably German, Loaisiga, Drew Hutchison, David Hale and Mike King, maybe Acevedo somewhere in there too. The first four all have at least some big league experience and King jumped three levels last year and dominated AAA in his six starts there, a 1.15 ERA. This is the one area they’ve confirmed they’d like to still add to, though.
     
  10. Wingack

    Wingack Yankee Mod Dope SoSH Member

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    Tulo is not going to be playing over LeMahieu. The Yankees are fools if that happens.
     
  11. crow216

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    I do not want another starting pitcher. Our 1-5 is on the conversation for best in the AL and our 6-9 has a boatload of potential between Montgomery, King, Loasiga, and German.

    This is something I've lightly mentioned here and there but I also think our coaching staff was overwhelmed last year with the pitching woes of Severino, Kahnle, and Chapman who all seemed to have unsolvable issues. I would be perfectly fine keeping it simple going into spring training and not having to worry about a 6-man.
     
  12. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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  13. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    I think you're getting caught up in the terminology, and also possibly underestimating how much Tulo's heels have affected his play the last few years (this last totally remains to be seen admittedly). But if all are healthy, here's your infield for a 7 game stretch:

    Gleyber-6 games (2B)
    Voit-6 games (1B)
    mystery 3B-6 games (3B)
    Tulo-5 games (SS)
    LeMahieu-5 games (all four positions)
     
  14. terrynever

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    Mystery 3B could still be Andujar, but not for 6 games. He and DJ could share the job.
     
  15. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    The more Andujar plays 3B means the more Stanton is DH and the more Gardner plays, this team really is best if LeMahieu and Gardner are the 10th and 11th men, each playing 3-5 games out of 7 if everyone is healthy.

    Also Andujar can't play 3B, but you know my opinion on that. :)
     
  16. jon abbey

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    Also Didi has already been cleared to start a throwing program, I don't know his exact timetable but with almost two months still to go before the season, that is promising.
     
  17. j-man

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    who is the best Defence 3rd baseman on the markaet
     
  18. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Machado, I’m guessing Iglesias and Hechavarria could both handle it pretty well too, although kind of a waste of Iglesias’ range.
     
  19. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Confirming what I was saying about Tulo over the weekend:

    Andy Martino‏Verified account @martinonyc
    Andy Martino Retweeted SNY

    Yankees are comfortable with Andujar at first if need be, but under no circumstances will anyone other than Troy Tulowitzki get first crack at starting SS job, per sources
     
  20. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Also somehow Didi is taking grounders right now next to Tulo at SS, I knew he was a remarkable athlete but his recovery right now seems to be insanely fast.
     
  21. crow216

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    Andy Martino really seems to have improved sources this offseason. He's never been someone who I paid attention to in the past.
     
  22. jon abbey

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    Yeah, he was not on my radar at all until this winter and seems to be better than most (admittedly a low bar).
     
  23. jon abbey

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    So now that you can put guys on the 60 day DL to free up roster spots (although the 60 days start Opening Day), Montgomery and Ellsbury frees up two spots when needed (Didi seems like he might be ready earlier).

    Machado is still the obvious fit, but a Moustakas/Gio Gonzalez combo really helps NY's depth everywhere (bumping Clint Frazier and German back to AAA if all are healthy), SP depth, a middle of the order lefty power bat, much improved 3B defense.

    Also Mike King going out for at least a few weeks is a bummer, but it maybe opens up a spot for Acevedo in the Scranton rotation, and he is already on the 40 man, unlike King. So a AAA rotation of German, Loaisiga, Hale, Hutchison and Acevedo as of now is my guess. And Nestor Cortes Jr. pitched great in the Dominican Winter League this winter at 23, 1.71 ERA in 42 innings. He is very streaky but still young, so he could be in the mix there too, he made the Orioles out of spring training last year as a rule 5 pick, but didn't last long before being sent back. So 5 of those 6 have at least a bit of big league experience, Acevedo got called up last year but never got in a game.
     
  24. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Anyone who isn't banned from that site should be ashamed of themselves....
     
  25. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    So Moustakas off the market and Machado rumored to be going to the highest bidder which will likely be the Padres or White Sox, which means that Andujar will likely start the season at 3B.

    Cashman has at least given NY the ability to easily pivot internally if Andujar is still dreadful defensively (Stanton to primary LF, Andujar to primary DH, LeMahieu to primary 3B/Wade to utility infielder or even Urshela to primary 3B and leave DJL as the backup for all infield positions) but Moustakas really would have been a nice fit as a solid defensive 3B and a power lefty bat to break up all the righties.
     
  26. Lowrielicious

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    Moustakas made so much sense given those reasons and the short “cheap” contract (and not completely giving up on the possibility of Andujar making the leap to at least mediocre defensively) that my money is on Machado to NY at this point.
     

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