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2017-2018 NC Hoops

Discussion in 'College Sports' started by Drocca, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. Greg29fan

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    Duke has had arguably their two best defensive games with Bagley hugging the pine the last two games, and Grayson Allen suddenly looks like he knows how to play basketball again. Interesting.
     
  2. tims4wins

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    We’ll see if they can finally win a road game against a decent team at Clemson on Sunday
     
  3. DukeSox

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    Well it was coming off two straight losses so no surprise if the practices were a bit more uh, spirited, than usual.

    They also have been playing much more zone the past two games and K said it would be the strategy going forward, so that's also changed.

    But in 2015 when Duke won the natty they were better on D with Jahlil Okafor on the bench. An 18 year old not great at picking up a defensive system would be a) not a new thing and b) not an impediment to winning a title.
     
  4. tims4wins

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    Finally scored some tix to an ACC game this year. Going next Weds. vs L'Ville.
     
  5. DukeSox

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    Best win of 2018
     
  6. tims4wins

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    All zone has made a big difference

    Legit chance to win out regular season
     
  7. tims4wins

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    Crazy week. With all of the top 10 losses Duke jumped from 12th to 5th
     
  8. DukeSox

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    And beat the #2 team and lost to the #1 team by 2 points.

    For all the commentary, it's a long season and this team has a lot of talent. That said, as reflective of all the top 10 losses this week to unranked teams, there will be no favorites in the tournament this year. No one really knows what Nova or Xavier are.
     
  9. Clears Cleaver

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    Xavier stinks. No nba talent just an old physical team with little talent. 22 year olds playing 18-19 year olds. Best win is against Cincinnati who is a mirror image of them. Getting waxed 3-4 in a season is not a good sign. Nova has its usual 4 guys who shoot 40 percent from three and they take over 50 percent of their shots from there. They defend, pass well and have experience and at least one nba guy in bridges and maybe two if you think Brunson can defend and can his shot off there. Nova has zero depth right now, however.

    Agree it’s a wide open ncaa because there are not any really good teams. Unless Duke coaching staff can figure out a way to have them play as a team on D. Lots of mediocre in the top 16 it seems.
     
  10. tims4wins

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    One note on Duke's D: they are up to 43rd by kenpom after being below 100 for a while.

    When they last won it all in 2015, they finished 11th overall, but were in the 40s heading into the tournament.

    So it is trending positively.
     
  11. DukeSox

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    It seems this has been the case in several of the past 5-7 years, and then what ends up happening is the sweet 16 is made up of 13 top 3j/4 seeds and a couple "cinderellas" who just knocked out a 3 mediocre top 3/4 seeds. It's parity within the top 16 but for a 8-15 seed to knock out 2 in a row to make the sweet 16 is challenging, so by the time the second weekend rolls around its the same old clowns who have been bouncing between number 5 and number 15 in the polls all season
     
  12. tims4wins

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    Limited amount of GA SRO (aka student section) seats available tomorrow night...
     
  13. tims4wins

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    Bagley out again tonight
     
  14. DukeSox

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    Bolden has broken nose
     
  15. tims4wins

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    Is this the same defensive team
     
  16. DukeSox

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    The Okafor theory
     
  17. tims4wins

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    Up to 27th in D per kenpom
     
  18. tims4wins

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    Bagley returns tonight
     
  19. DukeSox

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  20. Greg29fan

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    Will be interesting to see how your defense looks tonight with him cause it's been really good with Carter and Bolden or another big. A 2-3 zone off!
     
  21. VORP Speed

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    Pitt scored 7 points in the first half against UVa this afternoon
     
  22. BigSoxFan

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    Duke/Cuse: hold my beer
     
  23. tims4wins

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    Under 32% for Cuse. The D is real.
     
  24. tims4wins

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    Up to #18 in kenpom D
     
  25. DukeSox

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    I had a dream last night that UNC wins at Cameron w a final score in the 100s-90s.
     
  26. tims4wins

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    That’d be a... step backwards
     
  27. uk_sox_fan

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    Really looking forward to this coming addition to the Duke-Carolina rivalry but KP has VT with a better chance of stealing a win in Blacksburg than the TarHeels getting one in Cameron.
     
  28. tims4wins

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    Given how Duke has played on the road this year that passes the smell test. Duke has one home loss, by 2, to UVA. They’ve basically destroyed everyone else in Cameron the last two months. But the other four losses are all true road losses to a fairly mediocre set of teams: BC, NCSU, St. John’s, and of course UNC.
     
  29. DukeSox

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    Yeah but VT is 4-4 at home
     
  30. tims4wins

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    True, but A) this is a quick 48 hour turnaround and B) VT has beaten Clemson and UNC at home already, so I don't make too much of 4-4. They can show up. Duke is 6-3 in Blackburg since VT joined the ACC, they have had some struggles there.
     
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  32. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Nice work down the stretch for the Hokies
     
  33. The Napkin

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  34. Greg29fan

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    Big congrats to Buzz and his players - they won't have to sweat out the bubble this year.
     
  35. DukeSox

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    This is a natural result of top tier talent in coaching flowing from mid major conferences (the big east) to the best conference (the acc). Buzz has done a masterful job at fixing this program and as a result has two wins over two of the top teams in the country in UVA and Duke. It’s great to see the stunning depth of the best conference play out night after night on national TV.
     
  36. tims4wins

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    4th game in 8 days for Duke. Now they only play once in the next 10 before the ACCT begins
     
  37. tims4wins

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    On a positive up to #13 in adjusted D. I'd rather have had a W though. May cost them a 1 seed.
     
  38. Clears Cleaver

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    I noticed Lunardi had Xavier and Villanova as 1 seeds? Xavier is awful. No pros, bunch of grad transfers, got waxed three times...is cbb really that bad this year???
     
  39. uk_sox_fan

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    I think with a win over Carolina and a loss in the ACCT finals Duke is a 2-seed. If they fall short of that they could fall to 3 and if they win out and one of the other Top 4 stumbles they could still get a 1.

    Great win for VT. Buzz is a very likeable coach (his interview before the half was priceless!) Duke looked explosive in spots and sloppy in other spots - when VT moved out to defend the perimeter tighter they seemed to get rattled and they tried waaay too many lobs inside.
     
  40. tims4wins

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    Yeah kind of. Some of the top dogs have lost more than expected. Nova has beaten Xavier twice which helps Xavier from a paper resume perspective but fails the eye test.

    Agree with this
     
  41. Clears Cleaver

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    thanks. I watched Xavier play Villanova for about 8 minutes. They literally couldn't compete any position athletically. And villanova is not exactly brimming with NBA talent.
     
  42. DukeSox

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    Speaking of, last night a great rendition of "the Villanova"
     
  43. Ale Xander

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    bump for Grayson Allen retirement day
     
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  45. Greg29fan

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    congrats guys. Just have to tip your cap to your last 16 minutes.
     
  46. DukeSox

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    Maybe a 3rd game to come for 2nd year in a row
     
  47. Greg29fan

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    ACC Tourney schedule for the first two days

    Tuesday
    #12 Boston College v. #13 Georgia Tech (12 noon)
    #10 Notre Dame v. #15 Pittsburgh (2:30 pm)
    #11 Syracuse v. #14 Wake Forest (7 pm)

    Wednesday
    #8 Florida State v. #9 Louisville (noon)
    #5 North Carolina State v. Boston College or Georgia Tech (2:30 pm)
    #7 Virginia Tech v. Notre Dame or Pittsburgh (7 pm)
    #6 North Carolina v. Syracuse or Wake Forest (9:30 pm)
     
  48. tims4wins

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    Yeah they are gonna play again in the semis. Although I could see Notre Dame making a run. If Duke wins this thing it could mean wins over UNC and UVA which would be a big time boost to 1 seed chances
     
  49. tims4wins

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    Duke down to 3rd in offense but up to 10th in D
     
  50. uk_sox_fan

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    As inconsistent as Duke’s season has been they’re now the only team in KenPom’s top 10 in both Offense and Defense. Also #2 in Sagarin and a hair’s breath behind Nova at that.

    Watched the first half Saturday night (until 2:20am here) and watched the 2nd half Sunday morning without knowing the outcome. The difference in play was staggering. I think they looked as bad as any point all year that 1st half and then somehow got it together (Duval and Bagley being the keys with Trent’s 3 3’s getting honourable mention)

    No idea how they’ll do in the tournaments. They can beat anyone but can also lose at any time. Keeps you watching though!
     

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