And then he turtles on the next possession, lol.Wall with just a losing basketball play. Totally panicked; didn’t need to take the shot and laid a brick.
He’s like Marvin Lewis.Brooks is so impressively mediocre I don’t know how he does it year after year.
Yeah Brooks is not Stevens but Lewis has never won a playoff game. Brooks has coached a team to the nba finals. He’s won a lot more than he’s lost. Wall has a lot of rust after being out quite a while.He’s like Marvin Lewis.
He coached a team to the NBA Finals that had 2 of the top, I don't know, 7 players in the world on it?Yeah Brooks is not Stevens but Lewis has never won a playoff game. Brooks has coached a team to the nba finals. He’s won a lot more than he’s lost. Wall has a lot of rust after being out quite a while.
Brooks is not a great coach but he is good enough. Furthermore, as has been noted in this forum, he was brought to Washington partly with the hope that he plus the lure of home would woo Durant to the Wizards. That clearly didn't work so part of Brooks utility has diminished.He coached a team to the NBA Finals that had 2 of the top, I don't know, 7 players in the world on it?
I mean, that's great, but he just seems so relentlessly mediocre. If Brad Stevens retired tomorrow, and the Celtics hired Scott Brooks, 99.6% of Celtics fans would immediately go "Ugh....really?" and every guy named Sully in Boston would text his buddies "WTF?"
He's Jim Caldwell. He's Ron Gardenhire.
Plus Westbrook!He coached a team to the NBA Finals that had 2 of the top, I don't know, 7 players in the world on it?
3 of the top 7 players in the world at this point, not 2He coached a team to the NBA Finals that had 2 of the top, I don't know, 7 players in the world on it?
I mean, that's great, but he just seems so relentlessly mediocre. If Brad Stevens retired tomorrow, and the Celtics hired Scott Brooks, 99.6% of Celtics fans would immediately go "Ugh....really?" and every guy named Sully in Boston would text his buddies "WTF?"
He's Jim Caldwell. He's Ron Gardenhire.
When they were what 23 years old? That’s pretty good from where I sit. After that, injuries and the little return for Harden hurt them more than Brooks.He coached a team to the NBA Finals that had 2 of the top, I don't know, 7 players in the world on it?
I mean, that's great, but he just seems so relentlessly mediocre. If Brad Stevens retired tomorrow, and the Celtics hired Scott Brooks, 99.6% of Celtics fans would immediately go "Ugh....really?" and every guy named Sully in Boston would text his buddies "WTF?"
He's Jim Caldwell. He's Ron Gardenhire.
+1. And by himself perhaps more than anyone, which is never a great look.John Wall has always struck me as incredibly overrated.
It is amazing to me how good Wall turned out after being thrown into a lineup and a locker room as a 20-year old with JaVale, Blatche, Nick Young, and others. His biggest problem has been having teammates who didn't best fit his style of play. For years, Wittman insisted on having two lumbering bigs on the floor with him at all times......to me, the makeup of his teams has been criminal.John Wall has always struck me as incredibly overrated.
Absent other elite skills, my sense is that being a "distributor" is of pretty limited value in today's NBA, especially in a small(ish) guy. I'd argue that the most important skill for a small guy in today's NBA (or maybe even yesterday's NBA?) is shooting. Stockton and CP3, the all-time gold standards for the "true PG" position, were elite distributors ... but they were/are also elite shooters. They also took/take care of the ball much, much better than Wall — dropping dimes at a similar or better rate, while turning it over far less frequently.How many better distributors are there in the game? Wall has been held back by not having teammates capable of running with him. He was phenomenal last season making a big leap.....he's taken a step back this year not due to anything other than health.
This is harsh but fair.Absent other elite skills, my sense is that being a "distributor" is of pretty limited value in today's NBA, especially in a small(ish) guy. I'd argue that the most important skill for a small guy in today's NBA (or maybe even yesterday's NBA?) is shooting. Stockton and CP3, the all-time gold standards for the "true PG" position, were seen as elite distributors ... but they were/are also elite shooters. They also took/take care of the ball much, much better than Wall — dropping dimes at a similar or better rate, while turning it over far less frequently.
And heck, even CP3 and Stockton have run into limitations going up against teams built around long, distributing two-way wings (Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, LeBron, e.g.) The next time a team built around a small, ball-dominant player whose main skill is "distribution" competes for a championship will be the first time in ... ever?
I mean, is John Wall better than, say, Rajon Rondo or Ricky Rubio? Rondo and Rubio are similarly poor shooters, but are more aware of that limitation so tend not to shoot their team out of games. They both drop dimes at a similar rate, but turn it over significantly less. And Rondo's a much better rebounder — Wall's current rebounding rate of 3.7 per 36 is lame for a guy as long, rugged and athletic as he is.
I feel like Wall needs to start thinking of himself more like Rondo or Rubio if he wants to be a key part of a highly effective team rather than a wannabe star who piles up fantasy numbers for a 45-win team.
Isiah Thomas? But, yeah, I agree with your overall point. As for Stockton, his only limitation was that he had the misfortune of competing against prime Jordan. If MJ sticks with baseball, the Jazz would have probably a ring.And heck, even CP3 and Stockton have run into limitations going up against teams built around long, distributing two-way wings (Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, LeBron, e.g.) The next time a team built around a small, ball-dominant player whose main skill is "distribution" competes for a championship will be the first time in ... ever?
Yeah, agreed. But again, a big part of what made that team click was that Stockton was also a low-key fantastic shooter (who in the post-Curry world would almost certainly have shot a whole lot more; I know Nash after watching Curry regretted not exploiting his own elite shooting more aggressively when he was in his prime).As for Stockton, his only limitation was that he had the misfortune of competing against prime Jordan. If MJ sticks with baseball, the Jazz would have probably a ring.
That was media talk.A lot of people were talking about Jay Wright taking his job, but I think this Brett Brown can coach a little bit
I mean no one but media talking heads desperate for clicks.A lot of people were talking about Jay Wright taking his job, but I think this Brett Brown can coach a little bit
I mean no one but media talking heads desperate for clicks.
Totally agree.I know but the very idea that anyone would bring it up pissed me off. Brown has carried a lot of water for the franchise throughout the rebuild. He deserves better than to be disrespected by anyone, including the biggest idiots in the media.
They look insane.I know this will turn but this is pretty fun
That's because he pretty much was. He's made 5 consecutive All-Star games in a PG-loaded EC and was 3rd Team All-NBA last season.......I'm not the only one impressed by him these past few years prior to this season. The Wizards are a feared second round playoff opponent with a healthy Wall and a lottery team without him.....his OnCourt/OffCourt numbers the past few years, even this season playing on one leg, also confirm the eye test.He's a good distributor but he makes Russell Westbrook look efficient. Last year some of talking heads were calling him the 2nd or 3rd best PG in the game.