2015 PGA Tour
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FL4WL3SS said:
I was looking at the live leaderboard at pgatour.com and they had the wrong score for just about everyone. (Had Berger finishing at -7; Casey finishing at -6, etc.) They just corrected it seconds ago to reflect the actual scores.
It's pretty funny that the official site of the tour would not have accurate info.
FL4WL3SS said:
I saw this thread and realized that the tournament was finishing. Read the comments and went to the leaderboard. And for at least the two minutes I was staring at it, it had the wrong scores for Berger and Casey.
I kept switching back and forth from this thread to the leaderboard and hitting refresh, because I couldn't understand the disconnect. After Harrington made his putt, a playoff header was added to the leaderboard and suddenly all of the scores were correct.
It was amusing.
Looks like Paddy's going to win, he is in close on 17 and Berger is in the drink.
Wow, I never thought his game would hold up through the weekend. Started to wobble early yesterday, but nice bounce back. Good for Paddy.
Wow, I never thought his game would hold up through the weekend. Started to wobble early yesterday, but nice bounce back. Good for Paddy.
Great, there were a lot of stories out there this weekend, but I love Paddy. Always has that great smile on his face. Just seem like he'd be an incredible guy to play 18.
And he doesn't take himself too seriously (Happy Gilmore swings, and playing that crazy 19th hole)
And he doesn't take himself too seriously (Happy Gilmore swings, and playing that crazy 19th hole)
On the 601 yard par 5 12th hole, Bubba just hit his drive 376 yards, and then hit his second shot 224 for a tap in eagle. These guys don't play the same game we do.
While I agree, the average drive on Tour is only 280 yards (approx.) and these guys are usually playing on rock hard fairways and greens. Watching the broadcast you'll see they're getting 30 yards of roll on their drives and having to land the ball 20 yards short of the pin.
They're playing a different game, but a lot of it has to do with course setup.
They're playing a different game, but a lot of it has to do with course setup.
FL4WL3SS said:
It's those rock hard greens that are really the difference when it comes to the game professionals play. It's completely different in all regards. If you can't spin a ball, you cannot stop it on the green.
And even an average drive of 280 is miles longer than the average drive for a amateur.
These guys are playing 18 like I did the one time I attempted to play it. The fairway has been very lonely.
World 1, 2 and 3 play it at +5. Stenson takes the honors with a bogey.Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
Rory turns in a +4 40. MC last week, so he is spinning his wheels to start his US schedule. I other Rory news, word today is he's headed to Augusta next week to play a practice round with Tom Brady.
Rory doubled 18 from 160 out in the middle of the fairway. Stenson saved bogey with an insanely good bunker shot.cshea said:
johnmd20 said:
A few thoughts:
- There is nothing particularly impressive about a 280 yard drive. It's being able to consistently get the ball out there that far and with reasonable accuracy that is impressive. Consistency in golf is everything. Maybe it depends on how you view the golfing demographics. There are thousands of low-handicappers out there but they're just a small portion of the overall golfing population because so many players are weekend hackers who play for an excuse to spend some time outside. Even the low-handicappers are playing a different game than the guy with a 15 handicap who plays from the middle tees on a course with low rough and slow greens. I kind of view it in reverse... the weekend 15-handicap crowd is playing a different game, not the pros and low guys who take it more seriously.
- Bubba, he's a freak. There are a lot of guys on tour who get by averaging 280-290 off the tee. They're not superstars but there's elite compared to all but a handful of people on the planet.
- Equipment matters. Having the perfect driver for your swing, including whatever cutting edge $3,000 shaft you can get adds distance.
- I think if you can't spin a ball enough to get it to check up somewhat you probably shouldn't be playing courses with hard and fast greens too often.
ezemerson said:
I think he's fun to watch. He hasn't sold me on being likable or not but it's fun seeing a golfer with a chip on his shoulder. The tour is at risk of being a bit boring.
Patrick Reed is this generations Phil Mickelson to Rory's Tiger.
Ryan Moore is going OFF today, holy shit.
Ryan Moore is going OFF today, holy shit.
Correction: Ryan Moore and JB Holmes are having a shootout.
Are these two playing the same course? -8 thru 13 and -7 thru 11 respectively. WTF?
Are these two playing the same course? -8 thru 13 and -7 thru 11 respectively. WTF?
FL4WL3SS said:
Holmes to -8 now.
Meanwhile Jason Day turning in one of the more curious rounds I've seen in recent weeks.
Comfortably Lomb said:
Agreed all around. A 280 yard drive isn't completely impressive. That said, I golf with a lot of people who are low double digit handicappers and they rarely get to 280. Single digit handicappers can get to 280, usually. But the pros not only hit 280, or more, but they hit a lot of fairways while doing it.
If I'm not mistaken, driving distance for these guys is measured by taking the avg of two drives, one with and one against the prevailing wind. I'm sure there are plenty of us that could step up and rip one 280-300yds under ideal conditions, but to avg 280yds the way the tour pros do is entirely different.johnmd20 said:
FL4WL3SS said:
Yup. Not a lot of love for the cookie cutter swings so many of these tour pros try to adopt.
I respect that.Comfortably Lomb said:
I like buttery smooth swings like Els, Adam Scott, and Couples, but I'm also partial to powerful swings like Jason Day.
There is a beauty and harmony in Adam Scotts swing that is indescribable. It is second only to Tiger's swing from 2000.
No kidding. I've got a couple friends (including one that is tied for 3rd this week at the Web.com tour event, although he's not long) who are better than scratch golfers, and quite a few very low single digit guys, and only one averages 280+. Of course, he's a 6'3" lanky 21 year old freak whose swing would explode my groin. He routinely carries his drive 300, and can hit 5 woods and hybrids 250+, but he's nowhere near as accurate as these guys. Then you factor in that these guys have the best wedge/iron games, putters that we would die for, and they are playing on courses that would eat just about every club champ in the country alive, and they are playing a different game. Just spending a few hours watching them on a range is a joy.
My buddy that plays on the Web.com came home last year, and decided to finally break the course record at our club. He could have done it many times in the past (he has like 11 local course records), but for some reason, he could only play 9 that day, or weather or something else would interrupt him. The course record was 64 dating back to 1954. He shot 61 and 62 on back to back days. And frankly, didn't have to work too hard to do it either. We've got plenty of great golfers that have played there in the past 60 years, but nobody could break 64, and he was able to do it easily twice in two days. It's absurd how good they are, and he can't sniff the PGA Tour at this point.
My buddy that plays on the Web.com came home last year, and decided to finally break the course record at our club. He could have done it many times in the past (he has like 11 local course records), but for some reason, he could only play 9 that day, or weather or something else would interrupt him. The course record was 64 dating back to 1954. He shot 61 and 62 on back to back days. And frankly, didn't have to work too hard to do it either. We've got plenty of great golfers that have played there in the past 60 years, but nobody could break 64, and he was able to do it easily twice in two days. It's absurd how good they are, and he can't sniff the PGA Tour at this point.
Big numbers loom everywhere on this course. Hoffman gets to -7 then quad's 4.
Earlier today I was wondering a hypothetical. If, before today's round started, JB was offered the ability to not have to hit another shot, take par for his remaining 54 holes and post -10 for the tournament...does he take it? I think it'll be close.
Earlier today I was wondering a hypothetical. If, before today's round started, JB was offered the ability to not have to hit another shot, take par for his remaining 54 holes and post -10 for the tournament...does he take it? I think it'll be close.
ESPN has an analysis up of the Rory's club throwing technique. A much different angle than what would be taken if Tiger had done the same thing.
FL4WL3SS said:
Wow. Colossal meltdown. I mean, I would be a bit embarrassed for a 25 handicapper hung over from too much coke and vodka if he threw a club into the water like that. For Rory to do it, pretty shocking.
And of course reporters let him joke about it after the round. Must be because he has an impish accent.
I don't necessarily have an issue with it. But the double standard is interesting.Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
Yeah, that's about right. Which is the problem. Because McIlroy makes nicey nicey with the media after the round, all his sins are forgiven. Walk off the course in the middle of a bad round? NBD, he's just a kid, he'll learn from it. Throw a club? He's a fiery competitor; at least he owned it.Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
WayBackVazquez said:
He did get killed for his wisdom tooth crap but him getting a pass for chucking the club is a blatant double standard. It's been a big story, but it's been reported with a wink and a nod.
If Tiger did this, it would be a front page story and it wouldn't be with a wink and a nod.
johnmd20 said:
This is such bullshit. A player shows some fire out there and all of a sudden people are in full Maude Flanders mode. If you people had your way we would be watching an army of Steve Strickers shuffle around the course. Heck, weren't people on Rory for not caring enough a couple years ago?
johnmd20 said:
Tiger is not Rory. Okay, it's a double standard but in Tiger's case his double-standard is self-inflicted. He was the darling for years until the world found out he was playing them for fools. He still gets soft treatment since the golf media knows he has made them a fortune. So many people are rich and employed because of him.