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Hawk'sGoodKnees
post Oct 4 2009, 11:24 AM
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A lot has been made of Matsuzaka's ability to wiggle out of jams but I think it's simpler than that. I haven't had a chance to look back at video from previous seasons to compare, but it's pretty clear that Daisuke has been tipping his pitches out of the windup in 2009.

Watch his hands above his head as he rocks back and begins to turn...

From his first start of the season on April 9:



When throwing the fastball, Daisuke pulls the ball out of the glove. In the same at bat, he finishes Iwamura with the changeup. Watch the hands.




Much quieter.

From Friday night:

Fastball to Brantley.



Curveball to Shoppach.



Now, admittedly, I pulled a few of the more obvious instances. But it looks fairly obvious, because of how far he pulls the ball out when throwing the fastball as he turns, that the batter can most likely pick that up pretty easily.

Bigger Bigger Bigger

Three stills of the changeup, curveball and fastball. This could help explain some of his troubles out of the windup and why he's better with runers on. I will try to compare to '07 and '08 videos when I get time later.

Edit: Videos

This post has been edited by Hawk'sGoodKnees: Oct 4 2009, 11:31 AM
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- Hawk'sGoodKnees   Is Daisuke tipping?   Oct 4 2009, 11:24 AM
- - Seels   Can you make it so the videos aren't private?   Oct 4 2009, 11:26 AM
- - SonsOfCharlieZink   IIRC this was once of the things brought to Smoltz...   Oct 4 2009, 12:57 PM
- - CaptainLaddie   Wow, that's pretty obvious. Like really obvio...   Oct 4 2009, 01:00 PM
- - Hawk'sGoodKnees   I'm having problems with MLB.TV, but here...   Oct 4 2009, 08:32 PM
- - Dionysus   Wow. Can we get this to someone? I know it was don...   Oct 4 2009, 10:43 PM
|- - Foulkey Reese   QUOTE (Dionysus @ Oct 4 2009, 11:43 PM) W...   Oct 5 2009, 08:57 AM
|- - zenter   QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Oct 5 2009, 09:57 ...   Oct 5 2009, 05:32 PM
- - phragle   QUOTE (Hawk'sGoodKnees @ Oct 4 2009, 12...   Oct 4 2009, 11:34 PM
|- - Hawk'sGoodKnees   QUOTE (phragle @ Oct 4 2009, 09:34 PM) He...   Oct 5 2009, 03:09 PM
- - redsox11507   I took it upon myself to grab some screencaps from...   Oct 5 2009, 03:51 PM
|- - bosockboy   QUOTE (redsox11507 @ Oct 5 2009, 03:51 PM...   Oct 5 2009, 03:57 PM
- - rmurph3   Awesome job, guys. I'm wondering, though, whet...   Oct 5 2009, 04:16 PM
|- - redsox11507   QUOTE (rmurph3 @ Oct 5 2009, 05:16 PM) Aw...   Oct 5 2009, 05:07 PM
|- - dynomite   He doesn't always tip (there are a few cases i...   Oct 5 2009, 05:36 PM
|- - BucketOBalls   QUOTE (dynomite @ Oct 5 2009, 06:36 PM) H...   Oct 5 2009, 10:23 PM
|- - Noah   QUOTE (dynomite @ Oct 5 2009, 03:36 PM) I...   Oct 6 2009, 01:01 PM
|- - dynomite   QUOTE (Noah @ Oct 6 2009, 02:01 PM) If he...   Oct 6 2009, 01:24 PM
- - rmurph3   Another point on picking this up from the hitter P...   Oct 5 2009, 07:07 PM
- - Hawk'sGoodKnees   Here's video from the 3rd. Edit: QUOTE (red...   Oct 5 2009, 09:34 PM
- - Adirondack jack   Not sure when Daisuke started showing the ball lik...   Oct 5 2009, 11:00 PM
|- - Sprowl   QUOTE (Adirondack jack @ Oct 5 2009, 09:0...   Oct 6 2009, 12:15 AM
- - joyofsox   Batters vs Dice in 2009 CODE PA AVG OBP ...   Oct 6 2009, 08:08 AM
- - Flynn4ever   QUOTE (Sprowl @ Oct 6 2009, 02:15 PM) Thi...   Oct 6 2009, 03:28 PM


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