That isnt how the NFL cap works. Bonuses are amortized. Salaries are not. Player's also dont defer compensation in the NFL; its a much more regulated environment.
I agree they need him. I think the "they are acting like a small market team" complaint rings hollow. They may have wanted to avoid the tax at various points, but I suspect the players they didn't get, they didn't get them because they didn't think the players were worth it, not because they didn't want to spend money.
After thinking about it, I probably am over stating the small market argument. But, what the hell, emotions are getting the best of me. I think the team need a big time starting pitcher and a shot of adrenaline to get people fired up. I think Yamamoto is a no brainer for both.
Just to add to this, Ohtani, Betts and Freeman were also there. Apparently Ohtani has language in his contract that refers to the team being competitive.
I agree with this. 15 years at $25M per? That's wildly long, but the 2nd half of a deal like that would not be an outrageous AAV with the way things move each year.
Is there a point where the Red Sox might be better served bringing in multiple players with the money folks are willing to give up for Yamamoto?
I think IF they took that route, and the multiple players were strong additions, I'd be fine with it. But we're all a little gun shy from the past few seasons and the patch-and-mend process. So the jury would be out for most of us if they don't get Yamamoto.
Last year we were told they did not think they could win so they just wanted to appear to be competitive as they waited for the young talent on the farm to grow up. Now as we are getting ready for the next crop to arrive the Sox have a chance to get a pitcher who could be the next great ace for the next 4 to 7 years. Yeah, they need to overpay and if they want a shot at the playoffs in 2024 they need to pair him up with a legit two borderline number one like Snell or Mongomery. Hopefully those two along with bello give the Sox a formidable 1 through three and we have solid fours and fives a plenty on the roster.
I think we are getting to that point... BUT they HAVE to get Snell and Montgomery at this point if go that route.... And could be tough now.
Yes, that is the million dollar (actually way more) question. I would think Montgomery and either another SP, or legit upgrade at 2B or in the outfield so the entire offense doesn't fall on Raffy and Casas.
I remember it from previous offseasons, combed through about it last night about a year and found a few things that lined up right. It’s followed by a lot of MLB reporters and analysts including Rosenthal, Feinsand, Sherman, Dave Cameron, Kiley McDaniel, Travis Sawchik and Rob Bradford.
For whatever it's worth, when I checked that account Alex Cora also showed up as a mutual follower.
Well what's your dog's take on Yamamoto?
That dude is as accurate ” as incarcerated bob was. (In other words pretty much never)
E5’s dogs take: WOOF WOOF WOOOF WOOOOOOOOF
Yes, if those players are legit, number one aces. Really hard to win a world series without excellent starting pitching and bullpen. The old axiom good pitching beats good hitting.
Is he accurate?
I mean, what is accurate? Anyone doing this, official, non-official, anything in between, is mostly just repeating whatever they're told or have scavenged elsewhere. Sometimes it ends up being true, more often it isn't. Bob Nightengale is pretty much always wrong but people still somehow regard him as a legitimate source.
Hmm, seeing some conflicting information. Heyman is reporting "meow."
Heyman does say the Red Sox are close to acquiring Mike Tilapia from the Angels so we have that going for us.
I agree, 3 out of four last place finishes and in a division loaded with talented opponents. Sox need two starters a second baseman and outfielder with some thump. Can Anthony be the outfielder, maybe. Can Story be the second baseman when Mayer is ready, maybe. Can Cedane be the gold glove caliber middle infielder next year, maybe. Best bets for 2024 are not in Boston organization now and a fourth last place finish in five years should cause we fans to turn our backs on the Sox until they put a consistent championship caliber club on the field. We fans sure pay a champion level premium price for access to Sox games.
I don’t think it takes 8 years. But listen this is the new normal. Honestly if they could get Montgomery for 22AAV on a 7 year deal I’d be thrilled.
He will be 38 at the end of that deal and will probably be as effective as Corey Kluber.
I don't think that has to be an instead of. They need 2 guys unless we want a retread of the "which of our relievers might be a starter?" show we've seen the last two years. $45m for Montgomery + Imanaga/Stroman leaves a ton of room under the 2nd CBT line and I'd take it in an instant if YY is off the board.
If they don’t want to compete at the top of the regular FA pitcher market ever again that’s fine but they need to find some way to have good pitchers on the team. A team like the Sox can and should be willing to suffer some iffy years on the back end of a deal, especially if the alternative is going year to year trying to get lucky with, well, guys like Kluber.
I agree. But I'd rather have Stroman + Imanaga at a shorter deal than non-ace, non-young Montgomery at 8 years. It's easy to say "worry about the end of the contract when you get there". It's also shitty financial advice. Which is not to say you should *never* sign long term deals that are likely to crap out at the end. But the bar might be higher than Jordan Montgomery.
Montgomery is turning 31 and the hypothetical being discussed is giving him 8 years.
