He had a couple but overall the running game really stunk.Burkhead has a bunch of plus runs, 5-10 yards.
He had a couple but overall the running game really stunk.Burkhead has a bunch of plus runs, 5-10 yards.
So literally only one from 5-10 like you said????????????????????????????Burkhead runs: 4, 3, 11, 11, 3, 2, 6, 4
They largely shored it up in the playoffs, but they struggled at times in the red zone last year even with Gronk. White and Michel were two of the least-efficient red zone runners in the NFL in the regular season (Michel a lot better in the postseason), and Brady's numbers close in were atypically poor as well.This is a nit in a 30 point win, but I thought the Patriots looked very dynamic when they had field to work with but much less so when the field got compressed. They actually didn’t run too many plays in the red area and what they did run looked a bit more flat.
This may be simply a case of adjusting to life with out Gronk or it may not even be a thing. Heck, the last game they played had all of one play inside the red area and they won that one. But red area bears watching.
Edelman gets less valuable inside the 20. White score on pass plays but usually he is catching then going across the goal line. We don’t really have that guy who can go up and win the fight 8 yards deep and win the ball in the back of the end zone. Maybe Gordon. Haven’t seen that yet. But second and goal from the 8 is against teams with good run defenses is going to be worth watching this year.
Burkhead had more than a couple. And Michel did pick up 3 first downs in short yardage situations in the first and second quarters. And those gadget runs do count when they succeed. So I would give the running game a mixed bag than say it really stunk.He had a couple but overall the running game really stunk.
Per RaidersWire, one of the reasons why Oakland was eager to trade for AB was his red zone efficiency:They largely shored it up in the playoffs, but they struggled at times in the red zone last year even with Gronk. White and Michel were two of the least-efficient red zone runners in the NFL in the regular season (Michel a lot better in the postseason), and Brady's numbers close in were atypically poor as well.
https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/06/raiders-wr-antonio-brown-named-second-best-red-zone-target-in-nfl/However, one of the biggest reasons why they struggled to score points was due to their ineffectiveness in the red zone. In 2018, the Raiders scored touchdowns on just 53.4 percent of their red zone trips, 22nd in the NFL. Compare that to teams like the Steelers and Chiefs, who were punching the ball into the end zone on more than 73 percent of their trips inside the 20.
On the latest edition of the Move the Sticks podcast, NFL.com’s Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks ranked the top-five red zone receivers in the league. Coming in at No. 2 is none other than Brown. Listen to what the two had to say about the seven-time Pro Bowl receiver.
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Amendola's career high for TDs in a season is 4. Edelman has more TDs (30 vs 21) in about the same number of career catches (505 vs 492).It's funny because I think we (or at least I) tended to think of Edelman and Amendola as similar type players, but Amendola actually was a guy who could fight for a ball and make a completion over the middle 8 yards in the end zone on 3d and goal from the 4. Having Brown is really going to make everything different.
I played center and, if anything, you have to hold back from snapping the ball too hard (adrenalin). I snapped the ball over our star running back's head once. Talk about wanting to sink into the ground right there. I don't know how Karras even does that, the little floater on which linemen could almost get to Brady before the ball. Normally, everything makes you want to snap it too hard, instead he makes poofy little snaps. Weirdest center thing I've ever seen.(1) Karras. The snaps. Yes they got lots of mention in the game thread and obviously the Pats' coaching staff has to be more aware of it than we are. But egads.
Yeah, I'm not trying to make the case that Amendola is some red zone monster. Just that their game inside the 20s is different. But, right, they are both about equally likely to have a catch be a TD and it's actually pretty low chance.Amendola's career high for TDs in a season is 4. Edelman has more TDs (30 vs 21) in about the same number of career catches (505 vs 492).
Here's some redzone numbers:Yeah, I'm not trying to make the case that Amendola is some red zone monster. Just that their game inside the 20s is different. But, right, they are both about equally likely to have a catch be a TD and it's actually pretty low chance.
Check out their playoff TDs, which are interesting. Amendola has one more in half the attempts. Of course, that one was thrown to him by Edelman!
I think it is a legitimate point. The good news is that AB will help, obviously, and they ought to be able to do something down there with a guy like Gordon. I'd also kind of like to see Burkhead as the red zone back instead of Michel. Michel is just too much of a one trick pony at this stage.This is a nit in a 30 point win, but I thought the Patriots looked very dynamic when they had field to work with but much less so when the field got compressed. They actually didn’t run too many plays in the red area and what they did run looked a bit more flat.
It’s fun other than it’s sad how fucking stupid some of those posters are. They’re arguing that the chiefs have better receivers than the pats by saying that hill>brown (close), Sammy fucking Watkins, who hasn’t had over 600 yards in four years>Gordon (laughable), Kelce>Edelman (not even a receiver), Demarcus Robinson, he of the monster 22 catch, 288 yard, 4 td season a year ago (all career highs)>”pats fourth option”, who’s Dorsett or Thomas, and mecole hardman, who’s played one game and has no receptions>”pats fifth option”, the other of Dorsett and Thomas. And their entire forum constantly roots for injuries. Chiefs fans are hypocritical classless fucking assholes and I hate themThis is a fun read--the Chiefs message board's game thread about the Pats/Steelers game.
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324970
Remarkable amount of homophobia, can't say I'm surprised though.This is a fun read--the Chiefs message board's game thread about the Pats/Steelers game.
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324970
Wow - that's a pathetic group.This is a fun read--the Chiefs message board's game thread about the Pats/Steelers game.
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324970
Only a couple of pages in, but "This offense should be so easy to defend. Brady can’t throw long anymore so just play everyone up around the line of scrimmage," is the leader in the clubhouseThis is a fun read--the Chiefs message board's game thread about the Pats/Steelers game.
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324970
I just skimmed a few pages and that those people are a bunch of assholes. A saw a couple posters refer to plays or the game plan as "retarded." Someone called the Pepsi commercial "gay." Another made a comment that he didn't care what night laundry night but also asked that the "bitch make [him] a sandwich too." That board is embarrassing.This is a fun read--the Chiefs message board's game thread about the Pats/Steelers game.
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324970
Ultimate team player, especially considering his Megastar status. Gigastar? Terastar?
It's a game thread, but I am always surprised how low the standard is in other forums. There are reasonable, intelligent posters mixed in there, but they are drowned out by the serial idiots. The language, use of slurs and blatant politics are also alarming but less surprising. Also, one of my favorite things about SoSH is that there are not any giant, attention diverting pictures that people can put in their signatures. I could never consistently go on a forum that had that.This is a fun read--the Chiefs message board's game thread about the Pats/Steelers game.
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324970
So it's the Patriots who constantly run PICK plays then according to Chefs fans?This is a fun read--the Chiefs message board's game thread about the Pats/Steelers game.
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324970
At this point, I'm partially convinced that Karras' snaps were on purpose. BB saw something on tape and said "Pittsburgh likes to jam the receivers and by snapping it slower, they get a quarter second more time to come off the line before Tom is ready to throw..." or "Our offensive line is faster off the ball than the Steelers, and a slower snap helps them set up quicker..." I have no idea, but to hear Tom Brady say the snaps were fine, when everyone in the stadium (and I'm sure everyone at home) was looking at the snaps and going "WTF?" leads me to believe that perhaps, the Pats found yet another tiny edge they figured out a way to exploit.
They're right, but my guess is that they are just unaware of the rule that says that pick plays are legal within 1 yard of the line of scrimmage.So it's the Patriots who constantly run PICK plays then according to Chefs fans?
They sound pretty angry, I guess not appearing in a Super Bowl for close to 50 years sucks all the midwestern charm out of you.
God damn it. He's proving to be a TRUE PATRIOT™ already.
Agreed; you can do it within a yard from the LOS, unlike their team, which does it 4/5 yards downfield.They're right, but my guess is that they are just unaware of the rule that says that pick plays are legal within 1 yard of the line of scrimmage.
I think it is this. Brady sticking up for a teammate. When Belichick was asked, he admitted it was an issue that they would be working on.Either that, or he's covering for Karras, which is entirely possible, but I have a hard time believing they cut what's his name after 2 days when he had started like 74 consecutive games and nobody thought it would be important to work on Karras' snaps before last night. I wouldn't be surprised next week to see the snaps come back at normal speed and everyone just goes, "Yeah, we worked on changing it up.."
FerentzWho is the backup C if Karras gets hurt or goes full Knoblauch out there?
For the life of me, I cannot understand why any forum would allow that. It's so ugly and distracting, for NO reason. It's just garbage that's in the way.Also, one of my favorite things about SoSH is that there are not any giant, attention diverting pictures that people can put in their signatures. I could never consistently go on a forum that had that.
Snapping slower doesn't help anything in the offense.At this point, I'm partially convinced that Karras' snaps were on purpose. BB saw something on tape and said "Pittsburgh likes to jam the receivers and by snapping it slower, they get a quarter second more time to come off the line before Tom is ready to throw..." or "Our offensive line is faster off the ball than the Steelers, and a slower snap helps them set up quicker..." I have no idea, but to hear Tom Brady say the snaps were fine, when everyone in the stadium (and I'm sure everyone at home) was looking at the snaps and going "WTF?" leads me to believe that perhaps, the Pats found yet another tiny edge they figured out a way to exploit.
Either that, or he's covering for Karras, which is entirely possible, but I have a hard time believing they cut what's his name after 2 days when he had started like 74 consecutive games and nobody thought it would be important to work on Karras' snaps before last night. I wouldn't be surprised next week to see the snaps come back at normal speed and everyone just goes, "Yeah, we worked on changing it up.."
Or maybe they are REALLY trying to protect Tom, and don't even want him to potentially jam a finger.
There are definitely things Amendola can do that Edelman can't:Yeah, I'm not trying to make the case that Amendola is some red zone monster. Just that their game inside the 20s is different. But, right, they are both about equally likely to have a catch be a TD and it's actually pretty low chance.
Check out their playoff TDs, which are interesting. Amendola has one more in half the attempts. Of course, that one was thrown to him by Edelman!
That's what they want you to think....Snapping slower doesn't help anything in the offense.
I thought on the telecast they mentioned that either Gordon or Dorsett (I cannot recall whom) was open downfield. I'm guessing White was the primary option all along, so it was probably a disguise, but don't really know.Question. On the Edelman pass to White, it looked like he looked downfield first before checking down to White. Anyone have any idea whether Jules had an option to throw downfield or did he just look downfield to disguise what the actual play was?
My thought at the time was that Edelman didn't quite catch the ball cleanly. So by the time he had to re-grip the ball, the safe play was back to White.Gordon was open downfield but the White throw was a much easier throw and they had a convoy set up for him. Good decision by a guy who doesn’t regularly make throws in game situations.
Simon was an unsung very good player on Sunday. Chung was also awesome. As was J Mac aside from his one lapse where he stopped running on the bomb to Washington.I rewatched the first quarter plus of the game last night. Simon did a terrific job of setting the edge on multiple runs, on both ends (on different plays obviously). That has been an issue at times with some DE/Edge players in the recent past. Not a single miscue this game, at least thru the first few drives.
Totally agree on Chung. He got my Game Ball in an early post in this thread. And, I didn't give JMcC a game ball for the reason you note, but otherwise, his game was excellent.Simon was an unsung very good player on Sunday. Chung was also awesome. As was J Mac aside from his one lapse where he stopped running on the bomb to Washington.