NFL never called that back then.True ... but for me it makes up for the non-call on the Charles Woodson facemask
NFL never called that back then.True ... but for me it makes up for the non-call on the Charles Woodson facemask
Watching the game with a clear head vs being a gigantic ball of stress, the Chefs secondary does a shit ton of holding. I guess their attitude is the same as the Seahawks; they can't call holding on every play.Man that roughing the passer was a bad call.
I know ... but it makes me feel better to feel this wayNFL never called that back then.
I don't know why they didn't run another play with 11 secs left.The throwaway with :16 left boggles my mind. Why wouldn't they have just ran a quick out to the sideline and give themselves another play before having to kick a FG? Instead, Mahomes just throws it out of the end zone and they kick it with :11 left.
For some reason I thought of John Madden’s fire ‘em up phrase to his players before hitting the field:At the start of OT, some Chiefs fan is holding a sign that says “The Changing of the Baton Starts Now.”
That...is not the correct phrase.
It was just the end of the half, but Pete Carroll ran one more play in SB 49 with 6 seconds left and they scored the touchdown. Good thing was that it got Kyle Arrington pushed down toward the end of the bench. I thought of that Seattle play at the 11 second point and figured KC would definitely run another play. Nope.I don't know why they didn't run another play with 11 secs left.
Sort of like the two fourth down plays a few years back in Denver as time was running out...just pure greatness.That fade to Gronk is still such an amazing play to me. That just shows you the ultimate trust Brady and Gronk have in each other. With the season on the line, as Saban says players are more important than plays. That was just McDaniels putting his trust in the 2 best players on the field and Brady trusting Gronk to come down with the ball.
Exactly, and the McGinest helmet to helmet hit on Warner that made the cover of SI after the game.Mike Vrabel likes this...
Give them 2 chances to run a FG? Bad snap, the holder gets up and throws an incomplete pass? Or maybe not trusting the young QB to not scramble around to make a play and waste too much time?I don't know why they didn't run another play with 11 secs left.
This is insane, though. What if the receiver somehow gets tackled in bounds? The game could end. It was an almost impossible situation for the Chiefs there, it was so much downside and only a miracle chance of upside.The throwaway with :16 left boggles my mind. Why wouldn't they have just ran a quick out to the sideline and give themselves another play before having to kick a FG? Instead, Mahomes just throws it out of the end zone and they kick it with :11 left.
This isn’t rocket surgery.At the start of OT, some Chiefs fan is holding a sign that says “The Changing of the Baton Starts Now.”
That...is not the correct phrase.
Brady said he didn't know.The whole point of focusing on the Dee Ford offsides is that it negated the interception, but isn't it entirely possible that Brady knew Ford was offsides and doesn't throw that exact throw if he didn't know he had a free play?
Not insane at all, though. The out route was wide-ass open to the 10 yard line with 10 or 11 seconds left. Then, you can try a quick fade to the end zone to either Kelce or Watkins that if incomplete it takes another 5 seconds. If they don't get a TD, they kick the FG. Pretty simple.This is insane, though. What if the receiver somehow gets tackled in bounds? The game could end. It was an almost impossible situation for the Chiefs there, it was so much downside and only a miracle chance of upside.
And what happens if he's sacked? Not so simple, because then it's game over. Or what if there is a hold? The downside was very high, the upside was a slim chance at a miracle.Not insane at all, though. The out route was wide-ass open to the 10 yard line with 10 or 11 seconds left. Then, you can try a quick fade to the end zone to either Kelce or Watkins that if incomplete it takes another 5 seconds. If they don't get a TD, they kick the FG. Pretty simple.
A miracle is the MVP throwing an out to a wide open WR so he can run out of bounds then completing a 15-20 yard pass to either of the 2 big WRs in the end zone? I get what you're saying about a sack and the game ending on that, but that's why you are throwing passes that are quick throws. Line up in the gun, 1-2 steps back, and it's out of Mahomes' hands. Mahomes clearly wasn't even looking at the underneath routes because if he was he wouldn't have air mailed it out of the end zone. There was not a Patriot within 10 yards of the underneath KC player. He could have gotten the ball and ran towards the sideline picking up another 5 yards in the process before stepping out.And what happens if he's sacked? Not so simple, because then it's game over. Or what if there is a hold? The downside was very high, the upside was a slim chance at a miracle.
Okay--if he's the MVP and can easily make these throws, why didn't he do it?A miracle is the MVP throwing an out to a wide open WR so he can run out of bounds then completing a 15-20 yard pass to either of the 2 big WRs in the end zone?
And he was about 12-15 yards from the sideline when ther ball was thrown. Not inconceivable that he could have been tackled inbounds.There was not a Patriot within 10 yards of the underneath KC player. He could have gotten the ball and ran towards the sideline picking up another 5 yards in the process before stepping out.
Sure. But what if he stumbles? Or underthrows the receiver, who instinctively tries to catch the ball and goes to the ground and is tackled in bounds? Or what if, despite planning on releasing fast, he gets sacked? All of those might end the game.A miracle is the MVP throwing an out to a wide open WR so he can run out of bounds then completing a 15-20 yard pass to either of the 2 big WRs in the end zone? I get what you're saying about a sack and the game ending on that, but that's why you are throwing passes that are quick throws. Line up in the gun, 1-2 steps back, and it's out of Mahomes' hands. Mahomes clearly wasn't even looking at the underneath routes because if he was he wouldn't have air mailed it out of the end zone. There was not a Patriot within 10 yards of the underneath KC player. He could have gotten the ball and ran towards the sideline picking up another 5 yards in the process before stepping out.
Yeah, mixed metaphors are a horse of a different feather.At the start of OT, some Chiefs fan is holding a sign that says “The Changing of the Baton Starts Now.”
That...is not the correct phrase.
Exactly.Sure. But what if he stumbles? Or underthrows the receiver, who instinctively tries to catch the ball and goes to the ground and is tackled in bounds? Or what if, despite planning on releasing fast, he gets sacked? All of those might end the game.
The thing is, the chance for a TD was very low. Nearly impossible and any pass to the end zone is an INT risk. Whereas the downside is the game ends and you've lost. I understand why they tried once and it was clear there was nothing there.
So they kicked.
It was Miami.Which Pats game was it this season (Steelers?) where Brady totally screwed up clock management on almost this exact same situation, except it was end of half instead of end of game, but similar in terms of no TO's, short field, little time left?
And Brady may be the best in the business, but even he blew that one.
I am 100% with the group that agrees that KC played it right. Get the tie, take your chances in OT.
There was contact, so questionable. The un-called laying out of Edelman on the same play more than makes up for it.Man that roughing the passer was a bad call.
Doesn't that happen after the INT, not on the roughing playThere was contact, so questionable. The un-called laying out of Edelman on the same play more than makes up for it.
Edelman didn't get 'laid out' but you can certainly argue that it was interference. At about 0:02 in the video:Doesn't that happen after the INT, not on the roughing play
Agh. Different plays, yes. My aging memory fails me again. But an egregious non-call.Doesn't that happen after the INT, not on the roughing play
Have we seen all-11 footage of that play? There was nothing on the game broadcast to indicate interference (other than Jules asking for it). I can't see nearly enough to say.Edelman didn't get 'laid out' but you can certainly argue that it was interference. At about 0:02 in the video:
No. No it wasn’t.I looked at the Jones' roughing penalty play again. It was an insane clubbing.]
You're right on this. I should have said - and I say this without snark - it had the appearance of an insane clubbing in the context of a hit on a QB.No. No it wasn’t.