Joe Paterno partnered with rich people who also donated and/or served on a charity associated with Penn State. News at 11.Looks like Paterno's whole Mr. Magoo routine is springing some leaks...
From ESPN.com:
Paterno and charities
Joe Paterno partnered with rich people who also donated and/or served on a charity associated with Penn State. News at 11.Looks like Paterno's whole Mr. Magoo routine is springing some leaks...
From ESPN.com:
Paterno and charities
Joe Paterno partnered with rich people who also donated and/or served on a charity associated with Penn State. News at 11.
They haven't ID'd all 8 as of yet (so they say). They do say they don't know how many to testify yet, though.Sorry no link, but heard on the radio this morning that preliminary hearings begin next week and that all 8 victims in the Grand Jury Presentment will testify against Sandusky.
He's so fucked that fucked isn't a strong enough word for the fuckage that he is.
Nope, ABC and TMZ have it up. All 8 are going to testify:They haven't ID'd all 8 as of yet (so they say). They do say they don't know how many to testify yet, though.
All eight of the boys allegedly sexually abused by former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky will testify against him when preliminary hearings in the case begin next week, according to people close to the case.
News that all eight victims will testify against Sandusky is a blow to his defense. Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, previously told ABC News that at least one of the boys had denied that he was abused.
Wow, you really still think this is a witch hunt, huh? Good luck with that.
No, it points to Paterno being FAR more intimately involved in Second Mile than he has presented himself to be. So if there was a concern/action taken about Sandusky's activities back in 2008 (and there was because they removed the guy -- their #1 fundraiser -- out of his leadership job) by Second Mile, then there's no way Paterno didn't know about that concern and action. It's another indication that Paterno knew full well there were serious and widespread worries and/or info about Sandusky being a pedophile and yet, Paterno in 2011 professes to be surprised to learn of the charges against his buddy and colleague.No, I believe the story is irrelevant to Sandusky. It's old news and the information was never kept secret (from everything I've read). The main stream media investigating, writing and reporting on Paterno's business dealings with Robert Poole doesn't suddenly make it pertinent to the Sandusky.
If anything, it points to the good ol' boy network at Penn State. The same cronyism exists at hundreds of universities and businesses. The ventures weren't worth reporting until everyone from the head coach to the president decided to protect a child molester.
I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if it turns out there is more to Paterno's business ventures as it relates to Sandusky. Until then (as it relates to the article), Paterno is merely a shitty businessman.
Wait, your still arguing whether or not Paterno knew about Sandusky? I thought you were talking about the legitimacy of the business dealings. He didn't need to know Robert Poole or be involved in Second Mile. Paterno told Sandusky he wasn't going to be the next head coach at some point after the 1998 investigation. McQueary told Paterno about the rape in 2002. He testified before the Grand Jury. Of course he knew Sandusky was buggering little boys. Anything to the contrary reeks of willful ignorance.No, it points to Paterno being FAR more intimately involved in Second Mile than he has presented himself to be. So if there was a concern/action taken about Sandusky's activities back in 2008 (and there was because they removed the guy -- their #1 fundraiser -- out of his leadership job) by Second Mile, then there's no way Paterno didn't know about that concern and action. It's another indication that Paterno knew full well there were serious and widespread worries and/or info about Sandusky being a pedophile and yet, Paterno in 2011 professes to be surprised to learn of the charges against his buddy and colleague.
Awesome, I love it when bad things happen to bad people.No link but I can confirm Sandusky was arrested just now. Two new cases led to this.
Edit: 4 new charges are filed, first degree felonies. Deviate sexual intercourse, ect.
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Victim 9: "At least one occasion he screamed for help, knowing that Sandusky's wife was upstairs, but no one ever came to help him."
Too bad in that county, he's probably still a local hero.Put him in Gen Pop!
Not a fucking chance this can be true and, even if he still has supporters there at all, inmates have long been known to have special ways of greeting rapists and kid-touchers. It will never happen, but him being put into gen pop (as MF suggested two posts ago) would be satisfying to many, many people. Sadly, as twisted as this piece of shit is, he'd probably enjoy every second of it.Too bad in that county, he's probably still a local hero.
Something seems slightly wrong to me about celebrating the prison rape culture while ostensibly feeling bad for the boys who were raped.Not a fucking chance this can be true and, even if he still has supporters there at all, inmates have long been known to have special ways of greeting rapists and kid-touchers. It will never happen, but him being put into gen pop (as MF suggested two posts ago) would be satisfying to many, many people. Sadly, as twisted as this piece of shit is, he'd probably enjoy every second of it.
Then you're an idiot. This guy deserves whatever the other animals in the prison block decide to dish out. The boys are victims, not Sandusky. Go ahead and try to rehabilitate him, I'll send cartons of cigarettes to whoever Dahmer's him. I know I'll sleep well, will you?Something seems slightly wrong to me about celebrating the prison rape culture while ostensibly feeling bad for the boys who were raped.
@BreakingNews - Court documents say former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky posted his $250,000 bail - @NBCPhiladelphia
"I want to thank our children, our family, our extended family of former Second Mile participants, and all our friends for standing by us through these difficult times. Jerry and I want to express our sorrow for all the hurt that has come to those who have supported us and our beloved Penn State and State College Communities.
"I have been shocked and dismayed by the allegations made against Jerry, particularly the most recent one that a now young man has said he was kept in our basement during visits and screamed for help as Jerry assaulted him while I was in our home and didn’t respond to his cries for help.
"As the mother of six children, I have been devastated by these accusations. I am also angry about these false accusations that such a terrible incident ever occurred in my home. No child who ever visited our home was ever forced to stay in our basement and fed there. All the kids who visited us ate with us and our kids and other guests when they were at our home. Our children, our extended family and friends know how much Jerry and I love kids and have always tried to help and care for them. We would never do anything to hurt them. I am so sad anyone would make such a terrible accusation which is absolutely untrue. We don’t know why these young men have made these false accusations, but we want everyone to know they are untrue.
"I continue to believe in Jerry’s innocence and all the good things he has done. Jerry’s many success stories with his Second Mile kids and positive memories of those kids keep me going. I am asking everyone to please be reasonable and open-minded until both sides of this case are heard, and Jerry has the opportunity to prove his innocence.
"I would like to thank all those individuals who continue to support Jerry and hope they will continue to support us through the conclusion of this very sad time in our lives."
And one of the alleged victims is a family member. Nice statement.It's one thing to stand by your man, it's another entirely to go public and call the victims liars.
For what it's worth, "prison rape culture" was ended quite some time ago and is pretty uncommon now for a number of reasons. As to the reasons it is so strongly embraced in our cultural lore beyond its actually prevalence? Couldn't tell ya'.Something seems slightly wrong to me about celebrating the prison rape culture while ostensibly feeling bad for the boys who were raped.
What the hell is this mess? I have no interest in Sandusky being anywhere other than prison for the rest of his life. If you sleep well at night after advocating rape as a weapon, maybe you're a little less suited to life in america than as say the overseer for a blood diamond mine.Then you're an idiot. This guy deserves whatever the other animals in the prison block decide to dish out. The boys are victims, not Sandusky. Go ahead and try to rehabilitate him, I'll send cartons of cigarettes to whoever Dahmer's him. I know I'll sleep well, will you?
What do you mean by "pretty uncommon," how long is "some time ago," and what are the number of reasons? Congress didn't agree that it was uncommon in 2003 when it passed the Prison Rape Elimination Act, and the results of the latest DOJ survey say that about 4.5% of prison inmates had been sexually assaulted in the last year (though admittedly about half that for male inmate-on-inmate rape). And there are obvious sampling issues that would make it fair to assume the DOJ's estimates are low.For what it's worth, "prison rape culture" was ended quite some time ago and is pretty uncommon now for a number of reasons. As to the reasons it is so strongly embraced in our cultural lore beyond its actually prevalence? Couldn't tell ya'.
Paterno never kept a dime from his cut on this stuff but I bet the school kept its share of the profits.Hey Nittany Lions alums, those JoePa sweats and tees are about to become collectors items.
PSU cuts all ties to licensing Paterno's name, likeness and image
Yeah, I did a crappy job there--mostly, I gutted a post because I felt it was unnecessarily provocative and ended up leaving something pretty mediocre.What do you mean by "pretty uncommon," how long is "some time ago," and what are the number of reasons? Congress didn't agree that it was uncommon in 2003 when it passed the Prison Rape Elimination Act, and the results of the latest DOJ survey say that about 4.5% of prison inmates had been sexually assaulted in the last year (though admittedly about half that for male inmate-on-inmate rape). And there are obvious sampling issues that would make it fair to assume the DOJ's estimates are low.
Inmate advocacy groups will tell you prison rape endemic; prison officials and at least one study will tell you it's a media-concocted myth; I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Um...Now we're getting into "my cousin's brother's best friend from summer camp whose girlfriend works at 31 Flavors" territory. How convenient that the father's buddy hears a story that neatly lines up with an outcome of exculpating Paterno. Because McQueary tells the grand jury a far more detailed and specific version of what he saw rather than the "truth" because he likes stories...
This isn't allegedly some ex post facto revision. And it was allegedly made under oath, before a Grand Jury. Long before anybody knew what the consequences were to Paterno.There, Dr. Jonathan Dranov, a family friend and colleague of McQueary’s father, sat with the then 28-year-old graduate assistant and listened to his very first account of what he had seen, a source told The Patriot-News.
According to the source with knowledge of Dranov’s testimony before the grand jury, it went like this:
Sure, pertaining to Sandusky's activities. However, when it comes to Curley and Schultz, the entire case is based on what they were told by Mike McQueary. An individual who listened to McQueary's first story about what happened (one who is not alleged to have had any affiliation with the university, and no apparent motive to perjure himself) testifies to the very nature of the accusations against Curley and Schultz and their defense: that they were not fully informed of what McQueary witnessed. This is fundamental, not hearsay. Nobody knows the full extent of the prosecution's case against the two administrators, but this has to cast at least a little doubt on their charge.You realize that testimony from someone who hears about an event is not the same as testimony from someone who witnesses an event? And that the grand jury found McQueary's detailed testimony -- in it's own words -- "very credible?"
Although I quibble with your own assumption that a guy who lived in that town but didn't work directly for the school is cleared of any potential rooting bias in favor of PSU or it's top administrators. It's a real small, company town. Perhaps the doctor knows the administrators socially -- we don't know yet.
This is an observation of fact that makes no assumptions about his legitimacy going forward. Suspicion held right now in lieu of evidence is a mighty large chasm to cross.(one who is not alleged to have had any affiliation with the university, and no apparent motive to perjure himself)
Joe Paterno was admitted to a hospital Sunday morning after fracturing his pelvis when he slipped and fell at his home the previous night, a source close to the Paterno family said. The injury will not require surgery, the source said. But since the former Penn State football coach is being treated with chemotherapy as he battles lung cancer, doctors have decided to keep him in the hospital.