Week 2 NFL Game Thread
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Through 2 games:
Herbert: 50-74 (67.6%), 534 yds, 7.2 y/a, 3 td, 0 int, 102.0 rating, team is 0-2
Burrow: 41-72 (56.9%), 304 yds, 4.2 y/a, 2 td, 1 int, 70.6 rating, team is 0-2
Cousins: 64-88 (72.7%), 708 yds, 8.0 y/a, 6 td, 1 int, 114.2 rating, team is 0-2
Mac: 66-96 (68.8%), 547 yds, 5.7 y/a, 4 td, 2 int, 88.3 rating, team is 0-2
Garoppolo: 36-50 (72.0%), 385 yds, 7.7 y/a, 3 td, 3 int, 89.2 rating, team is 1-1
Mahomes: 50-80 (62.5%), 531 yds, 6.6 y/a, 4 td, 2 int, 88.1 rating, team is 1-1
Allen: 60-78 (76.9%), 510 yds, 6.5 y/a, 4 td, 3 int, 94.5 rating, team is 1-1
Carr: 44-69 (63.8%), 533 yds, 7.7 y/a, 1 td, 2 int, 80.2 rating, team is 2-0
(this sampling was semi-random)
Herbert: 50-74 (67.6%), 534 yds, 7.2 y/a, 3 td, 0 int, 102.0 rating, team is 0-2
Burrow: 41-72 (56.9%), 304 yds, 4.2 y/a, 2 td, 1 int, 70.6 rating, team is 0-2
Cousins: 64-88 (72.7%), 708 yds, 8.0 y/a, 6 td, 1 int, 114.2 rating, team is 0-2
Mac: 66-96 (68.8%), 547 yds, 5.7 y/a, 4 td, 2 int, 88.3 rating, team is 0-2
Garoppolo: 36-50 (72.0%), 385 yds, 7.7 y/a, 3 td, 3 int, 89.2 rating, team is 1-1
Mahomes: 50-80 (62.5%), 531 yds, 6.6 y/a, 4 td, 2 int, 88.1 rating, team is 1-1
Allen: 60-78 (76.9%), 510 yds, 6.5 y/a, 4 td, 3 int, 94.5 rating, team is 1-1
Carr: 44-69 (63.8%), 533 yds, 7.7 y/a, 1 td, 2 int, 80.2 rating, team is 2-0
(this sampling was semi-random)
FWIW (not much), Mac is currently "on pace" for this season: 68.8% completions, 4,650 pass yards, 34 pass TD, 17 int
Just saw the Chubb injury. Is there any talk on it being a dirty play? Fitzpatrick cannonballed in at the legs of a dude already being tackled up high.
Edit - Seeing more of a full out replay, I think it’s not dirty at all. Fitzpatrick dove in before he could see engagement up high, and maybe even before engagement started. Just one of those football plays. The slow motion in focus makes it look much worse.
Edit - Seeing more of a full out replay, I think it’s not dirty at all. Fitzpatrick dove in before he could see engagement up high, and maybe even before engagement started. Just one of those football plays. The slow motion in focus makes it look much worse.
I always thought Cleveland deserved to have a winner and was happy that the franchise was headed in the right direction, especially for their fans.
Then they traded for Watson. Then they gave them a horrible (for the Browns) contract.
Obviously an early sample, but it fits quite nicely with the Pats' season. Mac's putting up good yardage, and passing for TDs, but only after the team's in a hole due to turnovers. That TD/INT ratio of 2 even puts Mac in with the worst of the nominal starters and backups from the 2022 stats (Murray, Dalton, Heineke).
The funny thing is that if the Pats can finish off those games with Ws, we look at the second half production and we laud Mac for his ability to come back, to hang in there, to not just give up, but to show real mettle. But because they haven't pulled them off, all that stuff - while still true - is lost in the language (and reality) of them digging a huge hole to start with.
Absolutely, they're the Kardiac Kids! The turnovers have been especially painful too, either immediately leading to opposing scores (PHI) or stopping legitimately promising drives (MIA).
One thing that puzzles me with Mac is how consistently bad he's been in game context-neutral situations (i.e. with winning percentage between 20-80%). He was bad in those spots by EPA/Play in his good rookie season, he was bad last year and he's been bad to start 2023. He's disproportionately good when either leading with the game in hand or trying to climb back against a significant deficit. Now, I'm not saying he only performs well in garbage time, that's not fair at all. Very often you have, say, about 18% chance to win and it's still a ballgame, the opponent is still trying, but for some reason when the game is close or hasn't declared itself one way or the other he's struggled pretty consistently. So what this tells me is that his main issue hasn't been an inability to perform with the game on the line necessarily, more the fact that he struggles to make plays before hand, and then when he gets going it's too late to pull off comebacks and they need everything to work perfectly in order to do so.