Royals lose Holland for season

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MLBTR: Holland has a “significant” tear in his UCL, according to manager Ned Yost (via McCullough). Tommy John surgery is the likely course of action. Yost now believes Holland tore the ligament last August, meaning he pitched last September and the postseason as well as all of 2015 with a tear in the ligament.
 
The KC bullpen is deep, but with the trouble they've been having in the rotation, this seriously hurts their playoff run
 

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E5 Yaz said:
MLBTR: Holland has a “significant” tear in his UCL, according to manager Ned Yost ([/size]via [/size]McCullough). Tommy John surgery is the likely course of action. Yost now believes Holland tore the ligament last August, meaning he pitched last September and the postseason as well as all of 2015 with a tear in the ligament.[/size]
 
The KC bullpen is deep, but with the trouble they've been having in the rotation, this seriously hurts their playoff run
Haven't seen them much this year, but based on last year I thought Holland was their third best reliever. Unless you believe in that Closer Pixie Dust stuff I think the impact will be marginal.
 

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BCsMightyJoeYoung said:
Haven't seen them much this year, but based on last year I thought Holland was their third best reliever. Unless you believe in that Closer Pixie Dust stuff I think the impact will be marginal.
 
Yeah, you miss the point. Lose one key bullpen member, everyone else's role changes. They have time to figure it out; but if you think it won't make much of a difference, it might be because you haven't followed them much this year
 

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E5 Yaz said:
Yeah, you miss the point. Lose one key bullpen member, everyone else's role changes. They have time to figure it out; but if you think it won't make much of a difference, it might be because you haven't followed them much this year
I will defer to your firsthand knowledge .. But , after having a glance at their team pitching stats it looks like Holland was their fifth or sixth best reliever statistically. If they had lost Davis then it would have been a real blow. That guys a beast.
 

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BCsMightyJoeYoung said:
I will defer to your firsthand knowledge .. But , after having a glance at their team pitching stats it looks like Holland was their fifth or sixth best reliever statistically. If they had lost Davis then it would have been a real blow. That guys a beast.
 
Kinda depends on how they treat Davis now that he is the nominal closer. Hard for him to be the same beast he's been the last couple years if they feel they have to save him for the ninth.  Holland's loss is arguably less impactful if they don't anoint a specific closer and instead go with the committee approach.  Probably too radical a concept for simple baseball minds.
 

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Red(s)HawksFan said:
Kinda depends on how they treat Davis now that he is the nominal closer. Hard for him to be the same beast he's been the last couple years if they feel they have to save him for the ninth.  Holland's loss is arguably less impactful if they don't anoint a specific closer and instead go with the committee approach.  Probably too radical a concept for simple baseball minds.
Was just reading an article over on mlbtr which says he'd already lost the closer job anyways due to a steady decline in effectiveness.

Davis is the new closer .. That would work if they go full Playoff Tito and maximize his usage. But that's unlikely given their manager.
 

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Red(s)HawksFan said:
 
Holland's loss is arguably less impactful if they don't anoint a specific closer and instead go with the committee approach.  Probably too radical a concept for simple baseball minds.
 
 

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Was just reading an article over on mlbtr which says he'd already lost the closer job anyways due to a steady decline in effectiveness.
 
Think for a second ... the steady decline ends in TJ surgery. Hmmmmm ...
 

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BCsMightyJoeYoung said:
Was just reading an article over on mlbtr which says he'd already lost the closer job anyways due to a steady decline in effectiveness.

Davis is the new closer .. That would work if they go full Playoff Tito and maximize his usage. But that's unlikely given their manager.
This is my concern and why I think E5 Yaz is on point about how impactful this is. 
 

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In the good news department, KC clinched its first division title since 1985 tonight
 

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Dummy Hoy said:
This is my concern and why I think E5 Yaz is on point about how impactful this is.
You folks may be right. I had forgotten what an inflexible doofus the manager is. If it were my team I'd make someone like Madson the closer and leave Herrera and Davis for the 7th and 8th.