Ask Aaron Small.NJ_Sox_Fan said:How is Rich Hill all of a sudden really good?
benhogan said:I wonder if they offered him $1MM for next season, if he'd take it?
or we can wait to the off-season and watch the A's sign him for close to ML minimum.
That would be a lot more impressive if he didn't have 73 prior career starts.@alexspeier: Hill is the first Sox pitcher ever with three straight 10K starts to open his Red Sox career.
wade boggs chicken dinner said:That would be a lot more impressive if he didn't have 73 prior career starts.
Another good article, thanks Ian.Today on .com, Ian York does what only Ian York can do, using his unique visual analysis to look at Hill's repertoire.
And without the health. It's a nice story that's he's pitched so well, but a team that hopes to be competitive can't rely on a guy like this. He's had, what, one season without injuries and that was a long time ago?scotian1 said:After watching what I consider the Sox best start of the season, I believe the Sox should sign him to a two year deal which is what I think it will take to have him stay. To me, he is a Henry Owens but with maturity and command.
wade boggs chicken dinner said:That would be a lot more impressive if he didn't have 73 prior career starts.
You have just described Clay Buchholz.Philip Jeff Frye said:It's a nice story that's he's pitched so well, but a team that hopes to be competitive can't rely on a guy like this. He's had, what, one season without injuries and that was a long time ago?
I laughed and cried at the same time.Buzzkill Pauley said:You have just described Clay Buchholz.
wade boggs chicken dinner said:That would be a lot more impressive if he didn't have 73 prior career starts.
canderson said:Same cop, same move, as the Grand Slam(tm).
Also be more impressive if it was actually starting his Red Sox career... Or does 2010-2012 not count anymore?wade boggs chicken dinner said:That would be a lot more impressive if he didn't have 73 prior career starts.
Greg29fan said:Jon Shestakofsky @Shesta_Sox
Longest Red Sox Streaks with 10+ SO and no more than 1 BB, last 100 Years: 3 Games, Rich Hill in 2015 3 Games, Pedro Martinez in 1999
10:01 PM - 25 Sep 2015
I understand what you are saying, but Clay pitched more innings this season than Hill has in the last six.Buzzkill Pauley said:You have just described Clay Buchholz.
Which is why... You don't rely on him. This is exactly the kind of move that a big bad 180M payroll is for. Spend 6M short term on an arm that is likely relief, possibly more, and has enough of a chance to be less that it will scare away teams with shallower pockets.Philip Jeff Frye said:And without the health. It's a nice story that's he's pitched so well, but a team that hopes to be competitive can't rely on a guy like this. He's had, what, one season without injuries and that was a long time ago?
Hill has been dominant. And Ian's analysis explains why. But a close comp, it seems, is Chris Young, the pitcher. He also had bouts of above average starting pitching interrupted by injuries and ineffectiveness. After a good season in Seattle last year, he languished all winter before signing a 1 year $1 millions deal with KC. He's had another good season there.The X Man Cometh said:Which is why... You don't rely on him. This is exactly the kind of move that a big bad 180M payroll is for. Spend 6M short term on an arm that is likely relief, possibly more, and has enough of a chance to be less that it will scare away teams with shallower pockets.
I'll agree with this. Up to 6 million for an oft-injured 36 YO, who's put together a few good/great starts? Boston has a huge payroll, but why throw away money? Given where he was playing earlier in the year and, with the current SSS of high performance, I'm doubtful other teams are going to want to throw millions his way. Since he's local, maybe you can leverage that by being able to match the highest offer (if it's reasonable) and he gets to stay close to home...Plympton91 said:Hill has been dominant. And Ian's analysis explains why. But a close comp, it seems, is Chris Young, the pitcher. He also had bouts of above average starting pitching interrupted by injuries and ineffectiveness. After a good season in Seattle last year, he languished all winter before signing a 1 year $1 millions deal with KC. He's had another good season there.
I don't think it will take that much to sign him based on that. A major league guarantee of a couple million and another couple million in possible incentives based on games started and appearances.
Yes, Jamie Moyer was an extreme outlier so anyone could be!threecy said:His absolute ceiling would be a lefty who struggled with control and injuries during his prime who only had a few full MLB seasons under his belt by the time he was wearing a Red Sox uniform in his early to mid 30s. After Jamie Moyer left the Red Sox, he went on to have 13 full seasons as an above average starter.