Probably trade the bat boy for Corbin Burnes and give him an extension of 10/100M.What the Braves do as a counter-move will be fascinating to watch.
Probably trade the bat boy for Corbin Burnes and give him an extension of 10/100M.What the Braves do as a counter-move will be fascinating to watch.
I thought this would wind up being a huge factor as well. I drifted off during the Rams game after the rumored news was posted here that he was going to the MFYs, so in comparison this seems like a blessing. At least I can root for his success when he's not pitching against us.Besides the weather, LA always had the advantage of proximity to Japan, which the east coast teams will find hard to overcome.
Maybe the Sox should try to trade Yoshida to the Dodgers.It's going to come out he never intended to go anywhere else, just like Ohtani, right?
That’s not the actual argument, and certainly not the argument where the 2019 Red Sox were concerned.What's the problem? Half of the posters in here have spent the last four years assuring us going over the CBT was absolutely crippling to a baseball team and that all big contracts are bad contracts. Seems like the Dodgers are in big trouble!
Would Moroccans make good baseball players?Besides the weather, LA always had the advantage of proximity to Japan, which the east coast teams will find hard to overcome.
How often do these “superteams” end up winning? How often do loaded Dodger teams win anything? Roberts, bless his heart, will steer them to 110 wins and another postseason flop.Absolutely expected. I hate it. Baseball continues to suck.
Dodgers are the new evil empire.
The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa,貼文:5897200,會員:27220 said:也許紅襪隊應該嘗試將吉田交易到道奇隊。
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Can trade Jansen to Dodgers
Yoshida might bounce back
Asian players need to adapt to the environment in the first year.
Same thing they been doing I guess: waiting until 2025 to care about the team againI’m very curious to see what the Sox do now.
Isn’t Roki destined for Philly?I don’t think any of the East Coast teams ever really had a shot. Now watch Roki go to the Dodgers next year.
My guess is he trades for starting pitching. I can’t see them spending on Montgomery or Snell.Glad it’s over. Now what, Craig?
Terms matter as well. Yamamoto clearly went to the team that he wanted to go to. The Dodgers paved the way with the Otahni deal and were only too happy to let him come back to them to match the best offer. I don't understand the need to be pissed off over what the Sox may have offered, but feel free.It’s better that it was the Dodgers than Yankees, but it feels like it’s telling how little the Sox were mentioned in the final days of reporting, including the tweets about $ offers. Dodgers essentially means there was never a chance, but it’s upsetting if we find out the Sox didn’t go to $300, right?
I’m not upset. Pitchers with Yamamoto’s frame don’t last. This contract will be an albatross for LA in a few years.It’s better that it was the Dodgers than Yankees, but it feels like it’s telling how little the Sox were mentioned in the final days of reporting, including the tweets about $ offers. Dodgers essentially means there was never a chance, but it’s upsetting if we find out the Sox didn’t go to $300, right?
It's 27m AAV. And that's on 2023 dollars. In, say, 6 years how much will that amount even matter to a team like the Dodgers?I’m not upset. Pitchers with Yamamoto’s frame don’t last. This contract will be an albatross for LA in a few years.
She needs an account here!!My daughter just called me and laughed at me for believing Henry would go make such a big move. She questions whether Henry has ever even heard of Yamamoto. She is brutal. So, I brought up Montgomery & Snell. She asked if we have to do this all over again for them or can we move to the budget level players. I am still not giving up on Yamamoto, but I am having a hard time staying optimistic.
But the Red Sox still feel like they're in the running for him!Jeff Passan
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Japanese star Yoshinobu Yamamoto and the Los Angeles Dodgers are in agreement on an 12-year, $325 million contract, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN.
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Yoshinobu Yamamoto's deal with the Los Angeles Dodgers is the largest contract for a pitcher in Major League Baseball history, beating Gerrit Cole's deal by $1 million. Furthermore, the Dodgers will pay an additional $50.6 million in posting fee. Total outlay: 12 years, $375M.
He could be a high risk/low reward option to target in the 2035 offseason.But the Red Sox still feel like they're in the running for him!
It’s been pretty clear that their MO is “be competitive…. With luck and health- a playoff berth… then it’s a crapshoot”.It sounds like the Sox didn’t get to the stage where formal offers were made which is very disappointing. What they do to pivot will tell me just how serious this ownership is about winning versus just wanting to turn a profit.
The only thing that really matters is if the Sox were prepared to top it.Given Andy Martino's report that the Mets also bid $325 million (and the Yanks $300M), I think this is exactly what happened. He got the best offer from the New York teams, asked the Dodgers to match it, and they did.
I hope Breslow comes out and says, "Based on info from our Japanese sources, we were quite certain from the outset he was going to LA and just used the East coast teams to drive up the price. So we told him not to bother coming to visit."Terms matter as well. Yamamoto clearly went to the team that he wanted to go to. The Dodgers paved the way with the Otahni deal and were only too happy to let him come back to them to match the best offer. I don't understand the need to be pissed off over what the Sox may have offered, but feel free.
Except that Bloom failed at the "competitive" part two years in a row. (Regardless of whether Henry is suddenly afraid to spend).It’s been pretty clear that their MO is “be competitive…. With luck and health- a playoff berth… then it’s a crapshoot”.
That’s why Bloom was perfect for them. I think Bloom may have shown their hand a little too much.
It’s looking more like the things where I thought Bloom was failing was more likely a Henry imposed philosophy. It’s a private team and it’s their right. We can either continue to participate or follow another team.
That would definitely get some attention.I hope Breslow comes out and says, "Based in info from our Japanese sources, we were quite certain from the outset he was going to LA and just used the East coast teams to drive up the price. So we told him not to bother coming to visit."
Just to make heads explode.
“The Sawx ah mid-mahkit now! Free agents don’t even come to us anymore to drive up the price for the teams where they really want to play! Henry needs to sell the Sawx!”It’s better that it was the Dodgers than Yankees, but it feels like it’s telling how little the Sox were mentioned in the final days of reporting, including the tweets about $ offers. Dodgers essentially means there was never a chance, but it’s upsetting if we find out the Sox didn’t go to $300, right?
Agreed on this. Very disappointing to see the Sox only on the periphery here, not mentioned on Soto at all. I'm willing to give Breslow the benefit of the doubt, but it certainly seems like ownership's priorities are elsewhere.It’s been pretty clear that their MO is “be competitive…. With luck and health- a playoff berth… then it’s a crapshoot”.
That’s why Bloom was perfect for them. I think Bloom may have shown their hand a little too much.
It’s looking more like the things where I thought Bloom was failing was more likely a Henry imposed philosophy. It’s a private team and it’s their right. We can either continue to participate or follow another team.
Yep. I'm disappointed as this was the ONE GUY that I wanted more than any other this offseason. He fit a huge need. He was perfect for them. But from the sounds of it, he was never going anywhere but LA unless the money was just absurdly higher from other teams - especially Boston. So I'm not disappointed in the effort Boston gave. Just disappointed in the outcome. But less disappointed than I could have been had he ended up with the NYY.Sucks, but super happy he didn’t wind up with the Yanks. Now, finally, maybe the Sox can make some moves. Please.
Often times it was more like a malignant tumorThis was the inevitable outcome. Nevertheless,
this thread was the perfect combination of rumor, humor, doomer, fumer and Lumer.
You didn’t quote the “… with luck and health” partExcept that Bloom failed at the "competitive" part two years in a row. (Regardless of whether Henry is suddenly afraid to spend).
More like dodging the east.Is the Sox plan still to be the “Dodgers of the East”?
It was widely reported and then posted here too many times to count that the Padres wanted pitching in return for Soto. The Sox have a good minor league system but not high-end pitching prospects. They were never mentioned for Soto because the Padres wanted oranges but the Sox have an apple orchard.Agreed on this. Very disappointing to see the Sox only on the periphery here, not mentioned on Soto at all. I'm willing to give Breslow the benefit of the doubt, but it certainly seems like ownership's priorities are elsewhere.
Given the number of "Yamamoto or bust!" posts here over the last several months, are the pitchforks and torches coming out soon?
I agree. The second-most disappointing thing about the Yamamoto signing is that this very entertaining thread will soon come to an end.This was the inevitable outcome. Nevertheless,
this thread was the perfect combination of rumor, humor, doomer, fumer and Lumer.
Ill save my despair until the Sox lose on opening day.I know we’re the Hub of the Universe and all but wow do we Sox fans revel in our navel gazing. Long before John Henry showed up here and the Sox won four championships, it was the case that when the Red Sox and the Yankees both wanted the same free agent…the Red Sox lost. The only thing that has changed is that there is now a new Yankees out there.
In our despair we can twist this into cheap Sox ownership and loss of prestige and poor baseball operations. But it was none of those things. The Sox were always the longest of shots to land a free agent who was coveted by both the Dodgers and the Yankees. That’s just the law of the jungle. Much has it ever been. With a little distance and perspective, we might be able to recognize that the team and fan base that will find this new baseball world order especially disorienting and terrifying is the New York Yankees.
The Yankees pulled out every stop in their pursuit of Yamamoto and were leaking through the media that they “were feeling good” about their chances. Obviously, they, too, never stood a chance. It’s clear as day that the Dodgers told Yamamoto to go get the very best offer he could find and they would…match it. Not beat it, match it. So he got the Mets to go to $325, and the Dodgers matched it, and he went where he always wanted to be. When the Dodgers want someone, THEY are now the team that gets him.
That’s got to be very distressing for a Yankees fan. Sox fans? Jesus Christ, this has always been the way for us. Twist it how you want but we don’t get the guy when the Yankees want him. And there’s a new Yankees in town.