I used to like the Mad Fisherman, but now he's just a douchebag

[yep]

I don't think I've ever watched his show on purpose.
 
10 years ago, or whatever, it was like, "Oh here's that cable-access guy with the thick accent who does filler on NESN. Wait till you hear his commercial for Aubuchon Hardware, it's all like 'Chah-LEE, whaddyah doin on the COMPUTAH?'"
 
Now I see this alcoholic douchebag sitting by his pool, drunkenly eating food in restaurants, smoking cigars with Luis Tiant, hawking fucking steak-seasonings.... seriously? Is this best NESN can do as a generic pseudo-celebrity?
 
It seems like ownership arbitrarily picked a caricature "local" dumbass to promote, I don't know what... it's not like he's some kind of "superfan", with deep and passionate knowledge of the local teams. He's not an intelligent or engaging local personality. Is Lenny Clarke really that expensive, these days? 
 
Sorry for the rant. Losing badly makes me angry, especially when some no-talent douche is babbling about his line of branded steak-seasonings...

 

[RIrooter09]

I don't think I've ever watched his show on purpose.
 
10 years ago, or whatever, it was like, "Oh here's that cable-access guy with the thick accent who does filler on NESN. Wait till you hear his commercial for Aubuchon Hardware, it's all like 'Chah-LEE, whaddyah doin on the COMPUTAH?'"
 
Now I see this alcoholic douchebag sitting by his pool, drunkenly eating food in restaurants, smoking cigars with Luis Tiant, hawking fucking steak-seasonings.... seriously? Is this best NESN can do as a generic pseudo-celebrity?
 
It seems like ownership arbitrarily picked a caricature "local" dumbass to promote, I don't know what... it's not like he's some kind of "superfan", with deep and passionate knowledge of the local teams. He's not an intelligent or engaging local personality. Is Lenny Clarke really that expensive, these days? 
 
Sorry for the rant. Losing badly makes me angry, especially when some no-talent douche is babbling about his line of branded steak-seasonings...

 
Not sure if this thread is serious.

 

[Darnell's Son]

Maybe it just took you a while to realize he was a douchebag, because he's always been a douchebag to me.

 

[Brickowski]

Do you think he actually catches the fish, or is it just staged?

 

[RIrooter09]

Did you forget about starting this thread last week?
 
 
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/83198-charlie-moores-fauhawk-the-mad-fisherman-sells-out/?hl=fisherman

 

[mabrowndog]

Did you forget about starting this thread last week?
 
 
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/83198-charlie-moores-fauhawk-the-mad-fisherman-sells-out/?hl=fisherman

 
IT WASN'T GETTING ENOUGH ATTENTION THERE.

 

[yep]

Did you forget about starting this thread last week?
 
 
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/83198-charlie-moores-fauhawk-the-mad-fisherman-sells-out/?hl=fisherman

Honestly, and in all seriousness, yes I did. I thought it was something I had merely contemplated posting. 
 
Consumption of single-malt whiskies may or may not have had something to do with this forgetfulness. Irrational hatred and rage while watching NESN may have also played a part. 
 
In the future I will endeavor to constrain my irrational hatred to a single thread. 

 

[MyDaughterLovesTomGordon]

I like to think that SoSH is an accepting enough community that forgetting about threads started in a drunken stupor is not just okay, but encouraged. 

 

[yep]

I like to think that SoSH is an accepting enough community that forgetting about threads started in a drunken stupor is not just okay, but encouraged. 

I'll try to get drunk and start another thread on this topic, just for you, MDLTG.

 

[AlNipper49]

So this douche wrote a book about his life

http://books.google.com/books?id=ky0VLMjlYKIC&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=charlie+moore+agent+nesn&source=bl&ots=DVVbIMjhF-&sig=O-E_P6v9b6p1gJul4bYHcyNx128&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2O91U7jLLMSaqAbitYDoBw&ved=0CDoQ6AEwCA

There is no way that this book wasn't a direct release to Building 19.35

 

[TFP]

No way, Spags definitely had exclusive rights on it.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Of course it's called Kick Some Bass.
 
This guy is the Guy Fieri of fishing.
 
I forget where i heard it, but apparently he's horrible to work with and his whole crew hates him.

 

[mabrowndog]

About 7 years ago, a couple of really good dudes opened a fishing tackle & gear shop here in Falmouth called Mad Fish Outfitters. A few months later, when Charlie got wind of it, he sicked his lawyers on them. Being a small independent store, they didn't have the resources to battle Charlie's burgeoning empire, so they had no choice but to change their name (to Bad Fish Outfitters). Had to liquidate any logo-marked stock at a loss, then come up with new artwork, get new stationery, buy new signage, etc. Everything a new business really can't afford to do twice.
 
Fucking douchedick. I'd love to shove that Emmy straight up his ass.
 

 

[GreenMonster49]

No way, Spags definitely had exclusive rights on it.

 
You're both right.
 
Building 19 bought Spag's in 2002, converted the Spags store in Shewsbury to a Building 19 in 2004 or 2005, and closed the old Spag's store in 2013, shortly before the whole Building 19 chain went to the Happy Bargain Hunting Ground.

 

[Granite Sox]

There was a tremendous thread 3-4 years ago about douchebag baseball players and how they just ooooooozed douchiosity.  The thread featured pictures of Jayson Werth, Jason Bartlett, and any number of Tampa Bay Rays.
 
I feel like Chazz fits right in there...

 

[Bunt4aTriple]

I know my opinion of your avatar was different a few years ago.  Any chance he was included in the thread?  I'm guessing yes.

 

[AlNipper49]

 

[AlNipper49]

He kind of looks like what would result from Jon Lester fucking an alien.

 

[Corsi]

This guy's my hero.

 

[yep]

About 7 years ago, a couple of really good dudes opened a fishing tackle & gear shop here in Falmouth called Mad Fish Outfitters. A few months later, when Charlie got wind of it, he sicked his lawyers on them. Being a small independent store, they didn't have the resources to battle Charlie's burgeoning empire, so they had no choice but to change their name (to Bad Fish Outfitters). Had to liquidate any logo-marked stock at a loss, then come up with new artwork, get new stationery, buy new signage, etc. Everything a new business really can't afford to do twice.
 
Fucking douchedick. I'd love to shove that Emmy straight up his ass.
 

I know that place. They have always been extremely helpful on the few times I've been there. 
 
This tale reminds me of when Monster Audio cables sued things like Fenway Park, Cookie Monster, and Monsters, Inc for unlicensed use of their trademark. Let the hate flow through you...

 

[yep]

PS how the fuck did New England's favorite douchecanoe win an Emmy? I'm picturing some kind of special achievement award for mentally-challenged sports fans who managed to get on TV...

 

[Rough Carrigan]

PS how the fuck did New England's favorite douchecanoe win an Emmy? I'm picturing some kind of special achievement award for mentally-challenged sports fans who managed to get on TV...

I'm picturing bribes.

 

[yep]

So this douche wrote a book about his life

http://books.google.com/books?id=ky0VLMjlYKIC&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=charlie+moore+agent+nesn&source=bl&ots=DVVbIMjhF-&sig=O-E_P6v9b6p1gJul4bYHcyNx128&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2O91U7jLLMSaqAbitYDoBw&ved=0CDoQ6AEwCA

There is no way that this book wasn't a direct release to Building 19.35

Oh holy Jesus...
 

 
....At the time, NESN was a "pay to play" network, which meant that you had to pay to get on the network...

 
Somehow, every time I saw this guy on TV sitting beside his tacky suburban in-ground pool with fieldstone accents, or reclining in his library smoking cigars, I just got this screaming vibe of: "this house was not built with Charlie Moore's money". I'm not an expert in these things, but I know some people who are low-level local TV personalities, and it's not like a 7-figure gig. Anyone with a TV show can get pretty good clothes, tailoring, etc from endorsements and so on, but unless you live way out in the sticks or have a "voice of the franchise"-type role, RSNs are not typically paying their filler talent the kind of money that buys showplace kitchens, meticulous landscaping, cigar-libraries, and in-ground pools. People I know in regional TV are making very middle-class incomes. The "celebrity" benefits tend to be on the travel-allowances, clothes/makeup/styling, etc. $60~120k/year types who get to dress and travel above their means, but their houses and cars are not fit for "MTV Cribs".
 
And now here we have it. Maybe Charlie Moore had a secret past life on Wall Street, but more likely, his parents fucking bought him a TV show. 

 

[yep]

PS: I know know just enough about book-deals to know that the advance on something like this is usually significantly less than $10,000, and may very well be zero. His book doesn't even show up on Amazon's front-page search for "Charlie Moore".
 
There is a field known as "vanity publishing", similar to "pay to play" broadcasting, where you pay the printing and publishing costs of your own book. Maybe Charlie stooped that low, but I doubt it. Authors with even a smidgen of local celebrity can often get a publisher willing to take a flyer and front the cost of editing and printing a few hundred copies to put in local bookstores. A local signing-tour, involving Charlie sitting at a folding-table on a weekend, is often enough to sell out a small print-run, just so people can say they met someone from TV. 
 
Dollars to doughnuts, this is exactly that kind of book deal: Charlie Moore's riches-to-riches story of how a spoiled douchenozzle got his parents to buy him a TV show, and a publisher to print enough copies to recoup the cost of selling over-priced autographs to ignorant suburbanites who randomly walked into a book-signing during their weekend shopping. 

 

[Buffalo Head]

Wow dude, change the channel or something.

 

[Granite Sox]

Oh holy Jesus...
 
And now here we have it. Maybe Charlie Moore had a secret past life on Wall Street, but more likely, his parents fucking bought him a TV show. 

 
Eerily similar to a certain P&G stalwart with his own "temple"...

 

[Vandalman]

PS: I know know just enough about book-deals to know that the advance on something like this is usually significantly less than $10,000, and may very well be zero. His book doesn't even show up on Amazon's front-page search for "Charlie Moore".
 
There is a field known as "vanity publishing", similar to "pay to play" broadcasting, where you pay the printing and publishing costs of your own book. Maybe Charlie stooped that low, but I doubt it. Authors with even a smidgen of local celebrity can often get a publisher willing to take a flyer and front the cost of editing and printing a few hundred copies to put in local bookstores. A local signing-tour, involving Charlie sitting at a folding-table on a weekend, is often enough to sell out a small print-run, just so people can say they met someone from TV. 
 
Dollars to doughnuts, this is exactly that kind of book deal: Charlie Moore's riches-to-riches story of how a spoiled douchenozzle got his parents to buy him a TV show, and a publisher to print enough copies to recoup the cost of selling over-priced autographs to ignorant suburbanites who randomly walked into a book-signing during their weekend shopping. 

 
His book is listed on Amazon as:
 
The Mad Fisherman: Kick Some Bass with America's Wildest TV Host by Charlie Moore and Charles Salzberg
 
According to Publishers Marketplace, the book was sold  to David Moldawer at St. Martin's, in a pre-empt, in a very nice deal, by [agent] Joelle DelBourgo.
 
In publisher speak, a "very nice deal" means an advance of $50K to $99K

 

[The Talented Allen Ripley]

About 7 years ago, a couple of really good dudes opened a fishing tackle & gear shop here in Falmouth called Mad Fish Outfitters. A few months later, when Charlie got wind of it, he sicked his lawyers on them. Being a small independent store, they didn't have the resources to battle Charlie's burgeoning empire, so they had no choice but to change their name (to Bad Fish Outfitters). Had to liquidate any logo-marked stock at a loss, then come up with new artwork, get new stationery, buy new signage, etc. Everything a new business really can't afford to do twice.

 
This guy should have sued Charlie Moore years ago:
 

 

[yep]

Wow dude, change the channel or something.

It was Bruins Playoffs, and I was in a bar. They don't trust me with the remote.