Giants sign Samardzija

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He was terrible last year but still gets $90M. Probably best he goes back to the NL.
 

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He was terrible last year but still gets $90M. Probably best he goes back to the NL.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Especially since there's no long history of excellence to point to.
 

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Wow, this makes Porcello's extension look better. Porcello has 4 years, $82 million left, and at least he won't be 27 till later this month. Samardzija turns 31 next month and has 5 years, $90 million coming to him.

Porcello is 85-78, 4.39 with a 4.04 FIP and 96 ERA+ in his career. Samardzija is 47-61, 4.09, with a 3.84 FIP and a 96 ERA+.

Shark's ERA last year was actually even a little worse than Porcello's too.
 

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Wow, this makes Porcello's extension look better. Porcello has 4 years, $82 million left, and at least he won't be 27 till later this month. Samardzija turns 31 next month and has 5 years, $90 million coming to him.

Porcello is 85-78, 4.39 with a 4.04 FIP and 96 ERA+ in his career. Samardzija is 47-61, 4.09, with a 3.84 FIP and a 96 ERA+.

Shark's ERA last year was actually even a little worse than Porcello's too.
another way to look at this deal is that the Porcello contract set the market for Shark
 

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another way to look at this deal is that the Porcello contract set the market for Shark
I think this "setting the market" reasoning is overblown. If the Giants had an option they perceived to be a better value, are they going to pass because of Porcello's contract? I think both contracts reflect the limited supply of even decent pitching on the open market, and the new wave of TV deals moving more clubs into the FA marketplace.
 

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He was terrible last year but still gets $90M. Probably best he goes back to the NL.
He wasn't just terrible last year. He sucked in an unholy bad way down the stretch that is understated by his 5-9 record and 6.29 era in the second half. And hiis K/9 rate slipped, a lot.

The Giants have gotten so fucking lucky in the last 5 years with trade deadline pickups playing like hall of famers for 3 months and washed up bums like Barry Zito coming through with big playoff games against NL teams too stupid to not swing at everything. I sincerely wish for this expenditure to blow up in their faces. They deserve it.
 

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I think both contracts reflect the limited supply of even decent pitching on the open market, and the new wave of TV deals moving more clubs into the FA marketplace.
Maybe I end up being wrong, but I'm not really sold that those two contracts in particular make for that great of a standard reflection of where the current market stands. Especially in the event there ends up being numerous other alternative options out there that go on to offer better/safer overall value. I mean it's not like the Shark signing here boils down to a simple of matter of "expect to pay $18m/per on 5.00 era pitchers now", or ultimately justifies some "they did it so it must be ok for us to do it too" logic for that matter .

From an overall standpoint, imo both are better examples of how desperate GMs sometimes make some fairly risky and overly-cute reaches when their more ideal Plan A falls though.
 

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Maybe I end up being wrong, but I'm not really sold that those two contracts in particular make for that great of a standard reflection of where the current market stands. Especially in the event there ends up being numerous other alternative options out there that go on to offer better/safer overall value. I mean it's not like the Shark signing here boils down to a simple of matter of "expect to pay $18m/per on 5.00 era pitchers now", or ultimately justifies some "they did it so it must be ok for us to do it too" logic for that matter .

From an overall standpoint, imo both are better examples of how desperate GMs sometimes make some fairly risky and overly-cute reaches when their more ideal Plan A falls though.
I guess we'll know more when Mike Leake signs.
 

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IDK, Shark is coming off a pretty bad overall year and there was/still is more then Leake out there for teams that went into the winter looking for starting pitching but not wanting to go all in on one of the Top 4. Of the six FA starters that have signed elsewhere so far, this contract is currently coming in dead last if I was to rank each on my own personal preference list. Wouldn't be surprised either if this ends up being the biggest overpay out of a decently sized amount of middle tier options.

Mat Latos arguably makes for a fairly decent comp here btw/imo. Him getting anything even remotely close to 5/$90m would probably do the best individual job of making this look less like the desperation reach it strikes me as being atm.
 

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The Giants have gotten so fucking lucky in the last 5 years with trade deadline pickups playing like hall of famers for 3 months and washed up bums like Barry Zito coming through with big playoff games against NL teams too stupid to not swing at everything. I sincerely wish for this expenditure to blow up in their faces. They deserve it.
*fapfapfapfap* Keep going, Rough! Almost there! *fapfapfap*