Gaudreau tragedy in NJ

bigq

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My FIL runs AA + NA programs across a few prisons throughout southern NH. There are basically no resources dedicated to it aside from these meetings, and as a result, the relapse rate once someone is released is like 85-90%.
I think it varies by institution. I have a family member who received addiction treatment services at a prison in Maine. She is clean now however it is precarious. I don’t know what the relapse rate for the program is but I would not be surprised to learn it is high.
 

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Although I find no joy in 2 young daughters being without their dad. Just an incredibly selfish act and he literally works at a rehab center! So aggravating. Driving drunk was probably a regular occurrence with this guy.
Apparently Matthew's wife is pregnant. They may have been keeping it quiet until after the sister's wedding, but there is a child that will never know their father cause of this asshole.
 

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Apparently Matthew's wife is pregnant. They may have been keeping it quiet until after the sister's wedding, but there is a child that will never know their father cause of this asshole.
Yup. And Johnny’s kids are like 1.5 and 6 months so all 3 kids will never know their dads, all because of this selfish ahole.
 

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He also had an open container in the car, admitted to being "impatient" because the cars in front of him had slowed for the cyclists, and has a history of driving infractions.
He seems like the kind of piece of shit guy that just constantly drives around at that level of functional alcoholism doesn’t he? There’s WAY too many of these assholes driving around.
 

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So, it sounds as if it is hard to be sure how much the over the limit alcohol in his system had to do with him driving in a criminally negligent manner. I don’t know if that makes it better or worse but I hope they throw the bookshelf at him.
 

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Who even gives a fuck if he was drunk or not? He did an illegal manuever and hit two people on bicycles IN THE SAME LANE AS HIM. If I read it right, he passed another car on the right with only a single lane. Drunk or not...wtf?!
 

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Who even gives a fuck if he was drunk or not? He did an illegal manuever and hit two people on bicycles IN THE SAME LANE AS HIM. If I read it right, he passed another car on the right with only a single lane. Drunk or not...wtf?!
If he was deemed to be drunk, that's an aggravating circumstance to his crimes and will add years to his penalty.
 

Cotillion

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If he was deemed to be drunk, that's an aggravating circumstance to his crimes and will add years to his penalty.
Sad thing is in the US there really is often not a lot of punishment for killing with your car when sober. There are outlier cases, but generally speaking the US doesn't have a history of punishing it severely depending on what state you are in. Some aren't even a felony.

As an example

Many states recognize different degrees of vehicular manslaughter. Statutes typically authorize more severe punishment for vehicular manslaughter convictions involving drunk or drugged drivers, as opposed to convictions based on non-DUI traffic offenses. For example, in Georgia, a driver who causes a death while intoxicated can be charged with first-degree vehicular homicide, a felony carrying up to fifteen years in prison. But a driver who causes a death while committing a moving traffic offense (such as failure to maintain lane position), is guilty of second-degree vehicular homicide, a misdemeanor carrying a maximum of a year in jail.
 

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He seems like the kind of piece of shit guy that just constantly drives around at that level of functional alcoholism doesn’t he? There’s WAY too many of these assholes driving around.
Or he’s just one of those guys who drives an asshole all the time whether he is sober, buzzed or fall-down drunk.

This whole tragedy will call lots of attention to drunk driving, but let’s make sure aggressive driving gets called out too.
 

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Or he’s just one of those guys who drives an asshole all the time whether he is sober, buzzed or fall-down drunk.

This whole tragedy will call lots of attention to drunk driving, but let’s make sure aggressive driving gets called out too.
Honestly, I do not think this will move the needle at all.
 
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