Enmanuel Valdez is getting called up to Boston.

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Didn’t he tweak something during the rain game running to first?

Edit: NM if it is Chang.
 

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Does Arroyo have an injury is it just general suck? DIdn't hear anything.
He came up limping after running to first on Monday but stayed in the game for a while longer before coming out. Word was that he was going to sit a couple days with Chang and Kike starting. Guess nothing has really changed except it might be Valdez and Kike.
 

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Can't help think of Scooter Rizzuto when you talk about that kind of baseball "scoring". :)
 

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Good luck getting that image out of your head, everyone!
Holy cow!

Valdez seemed to have come as advertised. He put good swings on the ball and carries an iron glove. If he could get to be passable at second base, he'd be a very useful piece.
 

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When asked about doing the play-by-play for that song, Rizzuto said this about Meat Loaf: "He tricked me! Said the song was about baseball!"
When I first heard that song on the radio when I was a kid, for a few secondsI I thought it was a Yankees broadcast.
 

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When asked about doing the play-by-play for that song, Rizzuto said this about Meat Loaf: "He tricked me! Said the song was about baseball!"
My favorite Scooter broadcast memory:

Oil Can Boyd was pitching an early season game against the MFYs in the mid-80s (might have been opening day 1985), and Scooter and Bill White were doing the early innings of the game on WPIX. (They and Frank Messer made up a three-man rotation, with Scooter famously leaving the final innings to the other two so he could beat the traffic getting home.) The Can was pitching well and being demonstrative about it, and Scooter said to Bill White, "White, I like this Boyd kid. He reminds me of Satchel Paige. He's got the same color."

Bill White responded, "He's the same color all right."

Scooter went back to calling the action, and then a beat later, after he put together what he had said and White's response to it, protested, "C'mon White! You know that's not what I meant!"

Bill White chuckled, confirming that he knew that Scooter was talking about Boyd's flair, and not the pigment of his skin.
 

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My gawd, that's a painful story to read. Comparisons to Juan Soto. Didn't wait to see what the corresponding move would be. "There's no way for sure to know what will happen next ..." and "There's no way for sure to know what will happen .." in consecutive sentences.
Yeesh
Those Soto comparisons have been lingering for a while (I swear I heard it during a spring training game). I think it's exclusively because their stances and swings look similar, and not because they're similar in ability.

The takeaway from that article is that SI has lost all of its quality and prestige at this point.
 

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My favorite Scooter broadcast memory:

Oil Can Boyd was pitching an early season game against the MFYs in the mid-80s (might have been opening day 1985), and Scooter and Bill White were doing the early innings of the game on WPIX. (They and Frank Messer made up a three-man rotation, with Scooter famously leaving the final innings to the other two so he could beat the traffic getting home.) The Can was pitching well and being demonstrative about it, and Scooter said to Bill White, "White, I like this Boyd kid. He reminds me of Satchel Paige. He's got the same color."

Bill White responded, "He's the same color all right."

Scooter went back to calling the action, and then a beat later, after he put together what he had said and White's response to it, protested, "C'mon White! You know that's not what I meant!"

Bill White chuckled, confirming that he knew that Scooter was talking about Boyd's flair, and not the pigment of his skin.
Didn't Howard Cosell get canned for the same kinda innocent comment.
 

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Didn't Howard Cosell get canned for the same kinda innocent comment.
"Look at that little monkey go!" was a bit harder to defend, even if Cosell almost certainly said it without an ill intent.

Given Cosell's history with Muhammad Ali and others, it was pretty ridiculous that he didn't at least get the benefit of the doubt.
 

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"Look at that little monkey go!" was a bit harder to defend, even if Cosell almost certainly said it without an ill intent.

Given Cosell's history with Muhammad Ali and others, it was pretty ridiculous that he didn't at least get the benefit of the doubt.
That's exactly what I'm referring to. I knew what he meant and it had zero reference to anything racist. He was ostracized for it but Rizutto was just chuckled at. Sorry for derailing the thread......back to topic
 

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That's exactly what I'm referring to. I knew what he meant and it had zero reference to anything racist. He was ostracized for it but Rizutto was just chuckled at. Sorry for derailing the thread......back to topic
Well, Cosell's comment came on a national NFL broadcast while Rizzuto's was on a local MLB broadcast, so the level of exposure was different.

But I agree that Cosell was treated unfairly, especially since Billy Packer once referred to Allen Iverson as "one tough monkey" on a national broadcast of a Georgetown game several years later and did not lose his job over the comment, as people accepted his explanation that he was referring to Iverson's toughness and not the color of his skin. (It helped that Packer apologized, while Cosell's initial stance was to be defiant and dismissive of the criticism.)

Cosell's dismissal was more a case of ABC seizing the opportunity to use that comment as cover to purge themself of a legend who had gotten poorer at his job, increasingly difficult to deal with, and expensive than the network standing up for a principle.
 

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Well, Cosell's comment came on a national NFL broadcast while Rizzuto's was on a local MLB broadcast, so the level of exposure was different.

But I agree that Cosell was treated unfairly, especially since Billy Packer once referred to Allen Iverson as "one tough monkey" on a national broadcast of a Georgetown game several years later and did not lose his job over the comment, as people accepted his explanation that he was referring to Iverson's toughness and not the color of his skin. (It helped that Packer apologized, while Cosell's initial stance was to be defiant and dismissive of the criticism.)

Cosell's dismissal was more a case of ABC seizing the opportunity to use that comment as cover to purge themself of a legend who had gotten poorer at his job, increasingly difficult to deal with, and expensive than the network standing up for a principle.
Thanks for bringine me up to date on some of these events as they have slipped my mind (plus was on the road and couldn't keep up with that current as it was unfolding.....I just remember a few blurbs.) I had a feeling that HC was getting tougher to deal with as time went on.
 

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it had zero reference to anything racist.
You can argue that it didn't come from a place of personal ill-intent, but regardless of that, it was (and is) a well-known racist trope to equate Black Americans with monkeys or primates. And if you're going to be a national broadcaster, you have a responsibility not to do that. Not because of Alvin Garrett's and Howard Cosell's personal feelings, but because of all the people listening in on the broadcast.
 

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You can argue that it didn't come from a place of personal ill-intent, but regardless of that, it was (and is) a well-known racist trope to equate Black Americans with monkeys or primates. And if you're going to be a national broadcaster, you have a responsibility not to do that. Not because of Alvin Garrett's and Howard Cosell's personal feelings, but because of all the people listening in on the broadcast.
I totally agree......no argument from me. I'm pretty old and remember the conversations around the table family and friends of my elders at the time. Language (metaphors/idioms) that was used in a non racist way (and then again I remember racist conversations). I'm gray area HC, and you're totally correct. Sitting around the kitchen table and talking VS Monday night football (Am I right?) is a totally different thing. (Back on topic....sorry)
 

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I'm not super surprised, but was hoping it'd be David Hamilton. I'd like to see the speed potential play against an O's team that uses that aspect so well.
 

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I'm not super surprised, but was hoping it'd be David Hamilton. I'd like to see the speed potential play against an O's team that uses that aspect so well.
I think they have higher hopes for Hamilton's future, so it makes sense to me that they would keep him down to continue his development path.
 

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Now 3 errors (plus a borderline non-error) in about 14 innings.

Does he even get to board the team plane back to Boston?
The way the team is hitting ATM there seems to be no urgent need to get Valdez' bat into the lineup and while it's a SSS his defense has been perhaps even worse than anticipated. Given the inconsistency of the starting pitching and it's inability to regularly pitch more than 5 innings I think the Sox are best served putting their best defensive lineup on the field as often as possible. There doesn't seem to be much of a path toward getting Goodrum onto the 40 man roster, so if Valdez goes down the alternate is either Hamilton who's reported to not be very good defensively, giving Bobby D another try at MI or bringing up Ceddanne Rafaela earlier than the team would like to. This is what we're going to be looking at for at least another month.
 

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He's one of the most unnatural looking defenders I can remember. Just absolutely terrified of the ball. Seems like someone who should be working very hard to get a read in left field.