Don Shula: Old People Say the Darndest Things

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dcmissle said:
Forget Suggs or any Ravens, direct your venom to this guy:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/08/don-shula-calls-bill-belichick-beli-cheat/

I suppose that if I were in charge of every aspect of a team; had who may well be the GOAT pocket passer for a long time; and made it to only one SB with him and got destroyed in that game, I'd be bitter when I got old too.
 
Yup.  He's a bitter old man, like pretty much everyone still alive from the 1972 Dolphins.
 
I don't care if its the Patriots.  But I'd like to see somebody go undefeated before Shula et al die off, with the attendant broad media consensus that its much harder to do in this day and age, just so all these bitter old fucks can go to their graves knowing that their accomplishments have been diminished that much more.
 

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Lol at an old still thinking Spygate is relevant, but Shula is way less of a piece of shit than both Suggs and the Ravens organization as a whole.
 

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Lol at an old still thinking Spygate is relevant, but Shula is way less of a piece of shit than both Suggs and the Ravens organization as a whole.
You wrt the Ravens = SJH on Rex Ryan. LOL

I understand now passion typically absent from cool, detached analysis.

Everyone has his villains. Shula is mine because he threw razor sharp elbows on the Competition Committee forever, bullied refs, and hookwinked two generations of mediots into the belief that he was GOAT. Which is all fine , but then don't bring the wholesome bullshit.

His comeuppance came with the salary cap era, his last years in Miami, and old people dying.
 

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dcmissle said:
You wrt the Ravens = SJH on Rex Ryan. LOL

I understand now passion typically absent from cool, detached analysis.

Everyone has his villains. Shula is mine because he threw razor sharp elbows on the Competition Committee forever, bullied refs, and hookwinked two generations of mediots into the belief that he was GOAT. Which is all fine , but then don't bring the wholesome bullshit.

His comeuppance came with the salary cap era, his last years in Miami, and old people dying.
 
Yeah, but he never kicked the shit out of his wife on multiple and poured bleach on her and their infant child, at least that I'm aware of. Terrell Suggs is a legeitimate terrible human being who belongs in jail and out of society. Don Shula is just an egotistical asshole.
 

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Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
 
Yup.  He's a bitter old man, like pretty much everyone still alive from the 1972 Dolphins.
 
I don't care if its the Patriots.  But I'd like to see somebody go undefeated before Shula et al die off, with the attendant broad media consensus that its much harder to do in this day and age, just so all these bitter old fucks can go to their graves knowing that their accomplishments have been diminished that much more.
As far as I'm concerned the Patriots already did.
 

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dcmissle said:
You wrt the Ravens = SJH on Rex Ryan. LOL

I understand now passion typically absent from cool, detached analysis.

Everyone has his villains. Shula is mine because he threw razor sharp elbows on the Competition Committee forever, bullied refs, and hookwinked two generations of mediots into the belief that he was GOAT. Which is all fine , but then don't bring the wholesome bullshit.

His comeuppance came with the salary cap era, his last years in Miami, and old people dying.
Yeah, if Rex threw bleach on his kid, sent out an apology from a domestic violence victim for her role in getting beaten, and built a statue to a murderer that would be a legit comparison.  They're a really good organization in terms of building a competitive football team, but their pretty vile human beings.
 

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His restaurants are vastly overrated too.

What else can he do to stay relevant but to make controversy? He was a great coach into the 80's and deserves credit for that. But going undefeated in the 70's was so much easier than it is today given the cap, drafting/scouting, and the number of teams/games. He's an HoF'er, no doubt. He probably is in the top 10 coaches of all time. Those wins means more than just longevity.
It's also hard to be successful over so long in the NFL. So props to him. But not the GOAT.
What innovations can we credit to Shula? I'm sure someone here knows 70's football much better than I do.
 

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Eh, old people who suddenly become bitter assholes get a bit of a pass from me. Tho I still remember Shula being interviewed on the 25th anniversary of the snow plow game and calling "the most unfair play in the history of football."

In short, fuck Don Shula.
 

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IIRC Shula's teams were usually the least-penalized, or near the top in the category, nearly every year. There's no denying he was a great coach, although his fastball waned just a bit in the years after drafting Marino as he never could get a running game or a defense to compliment one of the greatest QBs of all time.
 

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Van Everyman said:
Eh, old people who suddenly become bitter assholes get a bit of a pass from me. Tho I still remember Shula being interviewed on the 25th anniversary of the snow plow game and calling "the most unfair play in the history of football."
In short, fuck Don Shula.
Like Bill Burr said in his latest special about Donald Sterling. What else did you expect an 80 year old white guy to say?
 

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Van Everyman said:
Eh, old people who suddenly become bitter assholes get a bit of a pass from me. Tho I still remember Shula being interviewed on the 25th anniversary of the snow plow game and calling "the most unfair play in the history of football."

In short, fuck Don Shula.
That's a pretty amazing statement.  One might think that Don "My team intentionally left the tarp off the Orange Bowl field the night before the 1982 AFC championship game when it rained like hell" Shula would want to shut his dentures filled trap about trying to take advantage of weather conditions.
 

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Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
IIRC Shula's teams were usually the least-penalized, or near the top in the category, nearly every year. There's no denying he was a great coach, although his fastball waned just a bit in the years after drafting Marino as he never could get a running game or a defense to compliment one of the greatest QBs of all time.
Funny, but Don Shula's inability to put a good defense on the field seems to pretty neatly show up exactly when his long time defensive coordinator Bill Arnsparger left the team after the 1983 season.
 

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Mike Loyko @NEPD_Loyko  ·  16m 16 minutes ago
Don Shula called Belichick, "Beli-Cheat" today. He's just guaranteed that BB now coaches until like 83 to break All-Time Win record.
 

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Van Everyman said:
Tho I still remember Shula being interviewed on the 25th anniversary of the snow plow game and calling "the most unfair play in the history of football."

 
Unfair Don?
 
Like you leaving the tarp of the field before the 1983 AFCCG and a monsoon flooded the field, slowing down the Jets pass rush?
 
Like you being on the competition committee and the Dolphins being one of the least penalized teams in the NFL while you served?
 
Like you bolting from the Colts while you were still under contract, costing the Dolphins a #1 pick in 1971?
 
For a fan to call Belichick "Belicheat" is one thing; for a former coach to do it is embarrassing and petty.
 
Stay classy you fossil.
 
 
 

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I hate Don Shula but this article does nothing to move the needle for me in that regard. He's an old, irrelevant fool who said something dumb. I hated him much more when he was coaching a team who dominated the Pats for the better part of two decades (plus all of the other stuff noted above).

Nice try on the misdirection by our resident Ravens apologist during Ratbird week, though. Agree completely with Stitch. I sports hate Shula, but the entire Ravens organization is on another level in terms of being off-the-field scumbags.
 

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Ralphwiggum said:
I hate Don Shula but this article does nothing to move the needle for me in that regard. He's an old, irrelevant fool who said something dumb. I hated him much more when he was coaching a team who dominated the Pats for the better part of two decades (plus all of the other stuff noted above).

Nice try on the misdirection by our resident Ravens apologist during Ratbird week, though. Agree completely with Stitch. I sports hate Shula, but the entire Ravens organization is on another level in terms of being off-the-field scumbags.
??? -- you have way too much time on your hands. What would be the point?
 

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GeorgeCostanza said:
Like Bill Burr said in his latest special about Donald Sterling. What else did you expect an 80 year old white guy to say?
I opened this thread right as that spot came up. First thing I thought of.
 
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Mike Loyko @NEPD_Loyko  ·  16m 16 minutes ago
Don Shula called Belichick, "Beli-Cheat" today. He's just guaranteed that BB now coaches until like 83 to break All-Time Win record.
 
This is a good point.  Shula may have done us an immeasurable favor.  Let's hope Shula taunts Brady about being able to stay on the field at an advanced age, too.
 

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Here is the link since I am clueless on how to properly embed a video from my iPad. The whole special might be his best work yet, when most guys start to fade when they hit their 4th special.

http://youtu.be/IR-rTemXNCE

Edit: holy shit the embedding worked for me for once!