Copa ‘24: Should Have Been a Yellow

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Crazy sequence! A Venezuela attacker has a free run at the ball in shooting range and instead collides with the ref, springing an Ecuador counter. The Venezuelan keeper made a nice save then an even better one on the ensuing corner kick.
 

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Took some time to figure out how to play against 10 men, and the subs were huge against a tired ECU. But they figured it out. Good game.
 

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Alvarez blows a hammy. Hate that side but not rooting for that. Actually find some pro CONCACAF feelings emerging and want the confederation to do well in the tournament. Even El Tri. Can’t believe I said that.

Edit — forget what I said. I don’t care for them.
 
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About to sweat bullets over here.

All signs say we have no chance vs Uruguay but a man can dream.
 

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Was posting in the wrong thread but what a match this Uruguay v Panama is so far. Panama may be on for a hiding but there’s so much intensity on the pitch it’s infectious

Bielsa with Uruguays edginess and work rate may be a match made in heaven. Probably they’ll lose their cool in a big match and lose but they are just relentless right now
 

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Physically, Darwin is the perfect Bielsa player. Technically? We may see a manager strangle a player mid-match.
 

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USA going to have their hands full with this Uruguay squad. Glad Panama got that late goal they competed really well and deserved to at least get a goal
 

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Uruguay is a world class (i.e., top 20) side, and Colombia isn't far behind. This is the level of competition the USMNT consistently needs to face in order to improve.

I'm loving this CONCACAF-CONMEBOL collab. First and foremost, Americans that already love soccer can go see the games and hopefully this generates even more interest among non-fans. I also imagine this is making the CONMEBOL FAs a lot more money than usual too (arguable if that's good or bad considering how corrupt these orgs usually are). But I do feel bad for local fans who certainly won't make the trip to the States to see these games, and if stadiums aren't going to let bands in (like in Atlanta last Thursday), the atmosphere will really suffer. I didn't watch closely last night, did the atmosphere in Miami seem lively (e.g., lots of music/singing)?
 

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Uruguay is a world class (i.e., top 20) side, and Colombia isn't far behind. This is the level of competition the USMNT consistently needs to face in order to improve.

I'm loving this CONCACAF-CONMEBOL collab. First and foremost, Americans that already love soccer can go see the games and hopefully this generates even more interest among non-fans. I also imagine this is making the CONMEBOL FAs a lot more money than usual too (arguable if that's good or bad considering how corrupt these orgs usually are). But I do feel bad for local fans who certainly won't make the trip to the States to see these games, and if stadiums aren't going to let bands in (like in Atlanta last Thursday), the atmosphere will really suffer. I didn't watch closely last night, did the atmosphere in Miami seem lively (e.g., lots of music/singing)?
couldn't hear the audio bc I was in a sportsbook, but Miami was at least half empty.
 

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couldn't hear the audio bc I was in a sportsbook, but Miami was at least half empty.
the tickets prices are also sky high so not a lot of casual and low income fans are attending. Compare that to the Euros…

I named this thread title after the Nirvana shirt because I think having this tournament in the US as these prices is a shameless money grab. And I also saw a kid wearing the shirt earlier that day.

View: https://twitter.com/crooke86/status/1805060098579960116?s=46&t=GfuLFvTYcOxcFiCZjyIYZw
 

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Luis Díaz is putting on a dribbling clinic early against Paraguay. Otherwise it’s as physical as any Copa game.
 

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Colombia take a 2-0 lead into the half, both goals assisted by James. It’s not that Paraguay have been that bad, but Colombia are just clicking on all level right now. Houston is Little Bogota right now too, which helps.
 

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Colombia take a 2-0 lead into the half, both goals assisted by James. It’s not that Paraguay have been that bad, but Colombia are just clicking on all level right now. Houston is Little Bogota right now too, which helps.
I still couldn’t believe how many Colombia fans were at the USA match. My brother-in-law’s parents are from Colombia. He’s been in the DC area for 15 years and was shocked at how many yellow jerseys were at the stadium.
 

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Paraguay have gotten one back, setting up a hectic last 15 minutes or so.

I still couldn’t believe how many Colombia fans were at the USA match. My brother-in-law’s parents are from Colombia. He’s been in the DC area for 15 years and was shocked at how many yellow jerseys were at the stadium.
I was today years old when I learned that there are more immigrants from Colombia in the US than any other South American country (at least according to my quick Googling). I always assumed it was Brazil.
 

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Ive been half watching this making din and walking dog. I am not sure Ive ever heard a ref in an international tourney make an announcement in Spanish
 

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They’ve made VAR announcements in Spanish one or two other times this Copa. I haven’t heard one in English yet.

The smoke is making it hard to see th Colombia keeper.
 

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Columbia is not just sitting on the ball. They are pressing forward and giving up possible counterattacking.
 

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CONCACAF Thunder! Costa Rica getting a scoreless draw with Brazil. It's like 2014 is back.
Draw with the US, scoreless draw with CR - unless Brazils ends up winning this tournament, I don’t think any of them can ever go home again.
 

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CONCACAF Thunder! Costa Rica getting a scoreless draw with Brazil. It's like 2014 is back.
I thought Brazil got hosed on a lot of calls, especially in the first half. Like, betting fix might be in level hosed. Still, impressive organization and individual defending from the Ticos.

We'll see if reffing gets a bit tighter as the tourney progresses, or at least the Brazilian FA will be squawking about it.
 

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Does not look as clear red as the announcers are saying, since the ref got a good look. But that's a really bad tackle. Especially when the coach made those pre-game comments.
 

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OK. I'm not a total soccer noob, but I don't get this. He kicked the ball and the follow through is just physics.
 

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Does not look as clear red as the announcers are saying, since the ref got a good look. But that's a really bad tackle. Especially when the coach made those pre-game comments.
But how is that even a tackle? He kicked the ball and dude's shin happened to be on the other side of it.
 

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But how is that even a tackle? He kicked the ball and dude's shin happened to be on the other side of it.
That's a tackle. This is not a situation where a player was in possession of the ball and went to kick it and a defender got in the way of the kick. This was a loose ball, with two players contesting it. The Canada player pulled up to avoid contact and the Peru player swung through the ball, over the top.
 

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When you leave your feet, and lead with your cleats up, and bend the other guys leg the wrong way, it's almost always a Red.
 

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But how is that even a tackle? He kicked the ball and dude's shin happened to be on the other side of it.
Yeah.. it didn’t even feel like 50/50 ball.. the Peruvian looked like he more or less slipped.. and the Canadian didn’t even look like he was going for the ball really.. just sort of looked like he was standing there..
 

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Seems a harsh but understandable red. Guy got ball first on a 50/50 challenge. But studs were up.
Of course he hit the high ankle bc he rolled over the ball as he struck it.
Definitely not as clear cut as the announcers made it
Classic Orange
 

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Definitely not as clear cut as the announcers made it
Yeah, that is pretty much my thought too. It looked like the ref was in a good position. It's pretty clearly an orange foul, and I don't think VAR should be about changing orange fouls either way, unless the ref genuinely did not see it. It felt there like VAR was putting its thumb on the scale and getting the ref to change a call instead of truly providing the ref with additional information he didn't already have. It's not the like ref missed it. He saw it and judged it a yellow.

I'm ok with either yellow or red on the field, and that should have been that.