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Mike Hazen has graciously agreed to come on and answer some questions from our members. While we work out the specifics, feel free to post some questions for the GM. Please be respectful and don't clutter the thread. These chats have gone really well in the past, and I'm looking forward to another interesting Q&A.
 

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Thanks a bunch for taking the time, Mr. Hazen. Out of all the advanced metrics currently in use in the public space, which one makes your want to pound your head against the desk most strongly when you see it used badly in analysis, and why?
 

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When considering the ratio of player salaries to league revenue substantially shrinking over recent years, and the current collective bargaining agreement ending after the 2016 season, did this affect the team's approach to free agency and the $189 Million salary cap?

Specifically, does the team feel more comfortable spending over the luxury tax threshold in 2016, knowing it's probable that the threshold will be increased before 2017?
 

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Thanks for joining us, Mike. It is very much appreciated.

Has the Sox use of analytics vs. scouting changed since Dombrowski was brought in? If so, how?
 

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Thanks for listening, Mike!

The front office's cup runneth over with big baseball minds. To that end, what level of input does each branch of the front office have into making personnel decisions?
 

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Thanks a ton for taking the time to answer some of our questions. It's really very generous of you.

There was a recent article on WSJ (December 10, here's the link for others http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-1-million-a-start-pitcher-1449791619) about cord cutting and the potential impact on baseball revenues. While I know the effect of cord-cutting is going to be widely different in each market, I wonder if you could talk a bit about how much you will think it will impact the Red Sox specifically and MLB as a whole, and whether you think MLB has made this issue a high enough priority or whether it's something that needs a sharper focus.

Thanks again.
 

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Thanks for coming. There is a sense that the Price and Kimbrel additions wouldn't have been made under the previous GM. Do you agree or disagree, and what can you tell us of the changes in philosophy in the front office with the arrival of Dave Dombrowski?

And, as others have said, thanks for doing this.
 

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Really appreciate the time, Mr. Hazen, this is an incredible opportunity for those of us on the board.

There is obviously a lot of discussion around measuring defense in general, both in terms of methodology and how accurate/how sample size sensitive the current metrics are. Many fans believe that teams have proprietary defensive metrics that are much more sophisticated and predictive than the common public ones like DRS, +/-, UZR, etc.. Assuming that you do have proprietary means of quantifying defense, would you say that they are slightly better than the ones available to fans, moderately, significantly, or in a whole other realm (orders of magnitude better)? Do you use different numbers to describe past defensive performance vs predicting future performance?

Second part of the question, if that's alright: How much of that improvement in the proprietary team metrics vs the public metrics is the result of the new statcast technology and other tracking software?

Thanks so much for doing this, we can't wait for pitchers and catchers to report so that we can get a look at this new team you've assembled!
 

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At what point does (or has) the front office ever feel/felt the need to push back (in public or private) against narrative-shaping yet inaccurate reporting.
 

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This is awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this Mike.

Two questions, if that's cool:
1) There's been a lot of buzz recently about the 2018 free agent class (Harper, Fernandez, Harvey to name a few) and how teams are preparing/should be preparing to take advantage of this opportunity. IMO, it seems unreasonable to dedicate much effort to that cause since so much can change in 3 years, both with the Red Sox and the free agents to be. Beyond the usual maintaining of roster and payroll flexibility, how much do specific free agents 1, 2, 3 etc. years from now play into roster construction plans?

2) How much of an adjustment has the President of Baseball Ops & GM structure been for the organization, and for you personally? I don't know what you can/want to tell us, but I'd be interested to hear whatever you can share.
 

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Thank you Mike for your willingness and time to come here and do this. It is extremely appreciated.

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1) As a South Shore native, if Bill Belichick would come to you and offer you the chance to come to work for the Patriots, in scouting or otherwise, would you consider leaving the Red Sox to do so?

2) What was your favorite class at Princeton and why?

3) In light of later obtaining Carson Smith, and the Yankees trade for Aroldis, is there regret in being too aggressive in giving up positional talent for Craig Kimbrel (both Guerra AND Margot), or was the extra team control on Kimbrel so valuable; and do you think Carson Smith will end up being a top closer either here in Boston or somewhere else, in the future?

4) What was your position on the signing of Pablo at the time of the move?
 

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Mike, talk a bit about the decision making process involved in retiring #26. I'm not necessarily thinking in terms of worth but any other factors that may have been involved. As a board, there seems to be a relatively even split between those who feel Bogg's number should be retired and those who feel otherwise.

Thanks for the time.
 

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Thanks for doing this, Mike.

Is the organization going to be more aggressive with prospect placement and promotions than it was under Theo Epstein and Ben Cherington?
 

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Thanks for taking the time out of your day to answer our questions.

1. What is/are the most significant trait(s) you look for in a positional player ... do not feel limited in any way to just statistical characteristics.
2. Same question but for starters.
 

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Congrats on the promotion Mike and thanks for joining us.

A few winter conditioning questions:

We've seen pictures of Hanley and he looks svelte. Any reports/pictures on Pablo and his conditioning? Sounds like it annoyed Pablo when the Giants front office put pressure on him to loose weight, are the Red Sox concerned about offending him?

Is Xander going to API with Pedroia this winter? who else from the Sox will be there?

One last question, what's Clay's health status?

Once again thanks...
 

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Thanks for doing this Mike.

There have been endless discussions on this forum about defensive positioning in the outfield. Though it doesn't seem as though you can do much wrong with who plays where, what do you value the most defensively out of the right field position - particularly in Fenway.
 

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Mike,

I often think "oh please let Anderson Espinoza be as awesome as he appears that he is going to be"

How many pleases should I be using in that sentence? 20? 30?
 

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Thanks for joining us and being so generous with your time.

Q. In the decade that you have been with the Red Sox what would you call out as the few biggest shifts in organizational philosophy that have made a difference in on the field outcome (for better or worse)?
 

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Thanks for generously taking time to connect with Sox fans on this board. It is wonderful to see the leadership of the franchise make genuine efforts to connect to this rabid fanbase.

My question: Do you have any insight as to the changes Bradley Jr. made as a hitter in the majors last year?

His defense is spectacular, but if he can hit as well as he did in the 2nd half (August, mostly), he's an incredibly valuable commodity. I am just hoping to have a better grasp on his progress as a hitter, and the likelihood that he can sustain his growth, and your perspective is certainly well informed.

I appreciate your reply in advance.
 

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Mike,
As others have said, it's truly going above and beyond to make yourself available like this.
As an executive, how do you value "going for it all now" to win a single championship at the possible expense of the farm, vs. building a team that can compete for an extended time but may not be the favorite in any particular year? Or do you not see those approaches being in opposition? In your experience, how much do executives base those choices on their particular market and fan base?
 

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Mike - The Hanley to first base experiment worries me. As Mike Napoli said to Rob Bradford recently, This is no easy transition." Considering Hanley's mediocre metrics as a fielder throughout his playing career, what can be done to make sure that he is, at least, a credible major league first baseman? If Travis Shaw has a sensational spring and Hanley is only so-so, could he actually beat him out as our first baseman?
 

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Mr. Hazen, thanks for taking the time for this chat, it's a privilege as a Sox fan to have this engagement with the organization.

I imagine you'll have to be fairly circumspect in your response to this line of questioning, but I'm sure anything you can say will be very illuminating for us.

Peter Gammons has recently written that, initially, "only the Red Sox—not the Reds—had heard about" the recent domestic abuse allegations surrounding Aroldis Chapman. Given this, some of us have assumed that Chapman's potential legal/personal issues—and not the players' relative likely acquisition costs, salaries, and years of club control—led to the front office turning its attention from Chapman to Craig Kimbrel.

What sort of checks do the Red Sox customarily conduct on potential personnel? (And are these checks more rigorous than those that other front offices conduct?)

Assuming that the Sox backed out of talks with the Reds because of Chapman's domestic incident, which weighed more on the decision—the prospect of a lengthy suspension, or the prospect of employing an abuser?

Do you condone the Yankees' acquisition of Chapman? If the teams' roles had been reversed, and our divisional rival had backed out of a potential trade for an all-star after discovering grounds for some serious moral qualms, would the Red Sox have had any scruples about swooping in to acquire the player on the cheap?
 

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Mr. Hazen, which player or pitcher from the 2015 roster do you expect to show the most improvement in 2016?
 

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Thanks a bunch for taking the time, Mr. Hazen. Out of all the advanced metrics currently in use in the public space, which one makes your want to pound your head against the desk most strongly when you see it used badly in analysis, and why?
Thanks guys - glad to be here. I don't think we get overly worked up about any specific metrics in the public space or how people use them. On the macro level - which most websites, etc are geared, the analysis doesn't really apply to what we are doing specifically. Obviously we monitor the work there to gather ideas on what we are currently working on in a best practices type of way. So much of what we work on is specific to our particular club. I think the thing that gets most overblown is the use and separation of analytics within your operation. It is part of the fabric of almost every club in some way - just depends on how much of the fabric.
 

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Mr. Hazen, which player or pitcher from the 2015 roster do you expect to show the most improvement in 2016?
No on in particular - I think we are counting on a number of those guys that got their feet wet over last year specifically to continue to take a step forward, although we know that won't always be the case. It will be good to get Brandon Workman back at some point during the year.
 

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Mike - The Hanley to first base experiment worries me. As Mike Napoli said to Rob Bradford recently, This is no easy transition." Considering Hanley's mediocre metrics as a fielder throughout his playing career, what can be done to make sure that he is, at least, a credible major league first baseman? If Travis Shaw has a sensational spring and Hanley is only so-so, could he actually beat him out as our first baseman?
It is a challenging position - as every defensive position can be in their own way. Mike Napoli made it look easy at times and he put in a lot of work to make it so. Hanley is committed to doing the same - combined with his abilities as an infielder his entire career - we feel the transition will go well. The biggest aspect of 1B is the responsibilities that the position demands that can be very different from other infield positions, but we have a great infield instructor in Brian Butterfield and he will make sure all the ground work is laid in ST.
 

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Mike,
As others have said, it's truly going above and beyond to make yourself available like this.
As an executive, how do you value "going for it all now" to win a single championship at the possible expense of the farm, vs. building a team that can compete for an extended time but may not be the favorite in any particular year? Or do you not see those approaches being in opposition? In your experience, how much do executives base those choices on their particular market and fan base?
Its a great question. It doesn't have to be an either or scenario - but at times you do have to make choices in order for a long term vision to get executed. In order for young players to emerge they need to get a number of at bats or innings at the ML level to ensure their true talent comes out as they grow through a transition period. We have been spoiled by a number of different young players over the years over performing that transition - Pap, Youk, Pedey, Bard, Ells and others. Other players require more time. We have an obligation to put a championship team on the field every year - which certainly can drive some decisions, but we are also responsible for the long-term health and sustainability over a number of years which requires the ability to weave those players into your club.
 

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Mike,

I often think "oh please let Anderson Espinoza be as awesome as he appears that he is going to be"

How many pleases should I be using in that sentence? 20? 30?
Best bet is to continue to think it for now and we can start talking about it when he gets to Portland/Pawtucket
 

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Thanks for doing this Mike.

There have been endless discussions on this forum about defensive positioning in the outfield. Though it doesn't seem as though you can do much wrong with who plays where, what do you value the most defensively out of the right field position - particularly in Fenway.
Athleticism and fearlessness - two things Victorino displayed so well. You need to have the athleticism to play like a CF - like Dwight Evans did - and also have the ability to close on the Pesky pole area - that spot comes into play very quickly and you need to be able to turn those balls into outs as well as keep the grounders to a single (double at worst) and not a triple.
 

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Thanks for taking the time out of your day to answer our questions.

1. What is/are the most significant trait(s) you look for in a positional player ... do not feel limited in any way to just statistical characteristics.
2. Same question but for starters.
This question for position players is a little broad in that it does become somewhat position specific to what you are looking for. And for the Red Sox it can get even more specific when we are talking about our LF or RF given the majority of games being played in an atypical environment. Certainly in our division with the parks we play in - you have to score runs given that the biggest HR parks along with the best doubles park are in one division.
For pitching - stuff is needed to compete at the highest level even within the big leagues - but strike throwing ability becomes so much more important with the enhanced recognition of catcher framing.
 

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Thanks for doing this, Mike.

Is the organization going to be more aggressive with prospect placement and promotions than it was under Theo Epstein and Ben Cherington?
Similar philosophies I would imagine. A lot of the same people will be involved in PD/Scouting and as such I would imagine we operate similarly. I'm sure Dave will add his perspectives over the top that we will incorporate, but I would image it remains similar
 

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Thank you Mike for your willingness and time to come here and do this. It is extremely appreciated.

A curve, a changeup and 2 fastballs up and in, sorry!

1) As a South Shore native, if Bill Belichick would come to you and offer you the chance to come to work for the Patriots, in scouting or otherwise, would you consider leaving the Red Sox to do so?

2) What was your favorite class at Princeton and why?

3) In light of later obtaining Carson Smith, and the Yankees trade for Aroldis, is there regret in being too aggressive in giving up positional talent for Craig Kimbrel (both Guerra AND Margot), or was the extra team control on Kimbrel so valuable; and do you think Carson Smith will end up being a top closer either here in Boston or somewhere else, in the future?

4) What was your position on the signing of Pablo at the time of the move?
Aggressive asking a 4 part question. I'm not much of a football guy - probably stick to what I'm most familiar with - having said that the Browns got a great guy in Paul Depodesta - one of the smartest people in the game by far. On Kimbrel - we identified him early as someone we really felt could impact our pen and yes - control was certainly a factor. With Smith we felt we were adding another impact arm back there to really lengthen out the pen and give John as many weapons as possible early in the game.
 

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This is awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this Mike.

Two questions, if that's cool:
1) There's been a lot of buzz recently about the 2018 free agent class (Harper, Fernandez, Harvey to name a few) and how teams are preparing/should be preparing to take advantage of this opportunity. IMO, it seems unreasonable to dedicate much effort to that cause since so much can change in 3 years, both with the Red Sox and the free agents to be. Beyond the usual maintaining of roster and payroll flexibility, how much do specific free agents 1, 2, 3 etc. years from now play into roster construction plans?

2) How much of an adjustment has the President of Baseball Ops & GM structure been for the organization, and for you personally? I don't know what you can/want to tell us, but I'd be interested to hear whatever you can share.
We're constantly looking ahead - but you cannot plan that far in advance because players sign extensions, get hurt, tick up or tick down - but we have an eye toward future free agent classes in our planning.

Things have gone well under Dave and hopefully a blend of new and some of what we were doing well will enable us to get back to where we need to be
 

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At what point does (or has) the front office ever feel/felt the need to push back (in public or private) against narrative-shaping yet inaccurate reporting.
Waste of time in my opinion. The only way to shape the narrative is by your play on the field. I think you are chasing your tail otherwise. Its not that you can mute it entirely, but rarely does it help in objective decision making.
 

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Thanks for coming. There is a sense that the Price and Kimbrel additions wouldn't have been made under the previous GM. Do you agree or disagree, and what can you tell us of the changes in philosophy in the front office with the arrival of Dave Dombrowski?

And, as others have said, thanks for doing this.
I disagree - Impossible to take that stance based solely on past practices. One of Ben's greatest strengths was his ability to adjust to different landscapes and thought processes based on what was available at the time. I certainly wouldn't say we would have executed the same exact strategy but I believe there are a lot of similarities in the moves that have been executed
 

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Thanks for listening, Mike!

The front office's cup runneth over with big baseball minds. To that end, what level of input does each branch of the front office have into making personnel decisions?
It can be a challenge incorporating all opinions into any decision making model - its what makes Dave's job so difficult in that there are a lot of smart people with strong baseball opinions and experience but how to leverage each at a specific moment in time is the key.
 

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Mike Hazen has graciously agreed to come on and answer some questions from our members. While we work out the specifics, feel free to post some questions for the GM. Please be respectful and don't clutter the thread. These chats have gone really well in the past, and I'm looking forward to another interesting Q&A.
Guys thanks for having me - I have to run - sorry if I didn't get to your question. Looking forward to getting to Ft Myers and putting 2015 behind and working to put another banner up.....