And look at guys like Penix, Daniels and Nix. Had all three come out say before they all transferred to their new schools all three are likely undrafted QB's. Not sure how much upside is really left with them.
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I think the whole COVID extra year aspect has been super under discussed with those guys. Daniels and Nix especially would have been afterthoughts had they come out last year. 23/24 year olds with 4 and 5 years of experience playing 19/20 year olds... I don't know. Has to be part of the evaluation.
Yeah, if after his 2022 campaign Maye transferred to OSU to cash in that sweet NIL money something tells me he’s getting picked over Jayden Daniels. Experience and circumstance are both legitimate factors to consider.
Those offers would be solid if the Pats weren't looking for a QB. But if a guy like Drake Maye is the target, you better pay a premium and neither team came particularly close.
The Trey Lance trade was 3 first-round picks, and a third-round pick. The highest first rounder was 2021 #12 overall that went from Miami to Philly to Dallas and became Micah Parsons. Is any team going to give more than that these days?
The Giants package is a decent starting point. I would have demanded 47 as well, and this would have been predicated on liking JJM as much as Maye. From his comments last night it sounds like BB would have made that deal. Vikings are probably just as happy they did not make the trade since they got JJM anyways for much less.
I would have made the deal if it included 47. But saying it’s a decent starting point isn’t accurate. 47 is a major pick
Those deals are in the ballpark if the Patriots had their QB, probably could either negotiate out the swaps for MIN, or add a pick or swap to NYG.
They aren't anything you pass on a potential franchise QB for.... which is why basically nobody who didn't have someone they thought was their QB has ever traded out of a consensus top QB pick.
They aren't anything you pass on a potential franchise QB for.... which is why basically nobody who didn't have someone they thought was their QB has ever traded out of a consensus top QB pick.
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Except several people on here scoffed at the 4 first rounders as a target, now 3 first rounders and pick swaps is a joke. They aren’t that far apart.
I don’t really think they’re laughable beyond the pick swaps. I’m glad they stayed put, but Nabers and a good first or McCarthy, Thomas, and a probably middle first are both legit building blocks for the future.
They trade with Vikings. Jets say fuck off, trade 10 to another team, they take McCarthy. Pats left with Nix or nothing.
I’d have to know what they were. Are they pick swaps if the Vikings win the Super Bowl, if Maye is an All Pro etc.
Are the pick swaps in 2026? 2027?
Interesting. Patriots tried to trade back into the 1st round last night targeting a WR. Smelling like WR at 34?
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Acquiring an additional first rounder versus pick swaps favoring the other team is a large difference.
I doubt any team would give the Pats their #1 2025 pick in exchange for drafting earlier in a few later rounds.
3 firsts and negative swaps is less than 3 1sts, so you're really saying in value it's something like 11+23 plus a future 2nd or future 3rd depending what swaps and when.
We don’t know the details but I agree with you and I was wrong.
I would still have held out for 4 firsts and glad they got Maye
The Mugsy's unite. Fuck those guys. I want them to absolutely TANK. Humiliations galore, 3-28 emmer-effers!
