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Al Zarilla

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Yeah. When he putts poorly, he's still a top 10 finish guy. When he putts well, he dominates. I don't understand how sometimes, when his footwork is all over the place when he swings, and he's got a hitch in his swing, but hey, it works for him.
Yes, his footwork is crazy with heels and toes coming off the ground at different parts of his swing.
 

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He’s the closest thing to Tiger
He is like 00s Tiger. He's longer than everyone. His irons are WAY better than everyone. And if he's putting well, he cannot be beaten. He's also nails in the clutch, which is just so freaking impressive. These shots he's hitting are art.

Scottie is on a heater right now.
 

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Spieth early in his career went on a massive heater, but nobody's played as well as Scheffler has since Tiger dominated the tour.
Definitely, but Spieth did it with incredible chipping and putting. Almost supernatural putting. He was never a bomber. Just a young man who had no fear, so he drained everything.

Scottie appears to be more sustainable. It's just steady and really long and really tight.
 

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Definitely, but Spieth did it with incredible chipping and putting. Almost supernatural putting. He was never a bomber. Just a young man who had no fear, so he drained everything.

Scottie appears to be more sustainable. It's just steady and really long and really tight.
I gotta think, though, that those swing mechanics will catch up to him at some point. I remember people saying that Norman had a "loose" swing, and that it would catch up to him. But right now, Scheffler looks just unbelievably good. He's also got the killer instinct and the right demeanor out there. He's easy to root for, IMO.
 

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Verne's tearing up as he approaches his final two players before retirement
 

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I gotta think, though, that those swing mechanics will catch up to him at some point. I remember people saying that Norman had a "loose" swing, and that it would catch up to him. But right now, Scheffler looks just unbelievably good. He's also got the killer instinct and the right demeanor out there. He's easy to root for, IMO.
Nobody stays atop forever, except Tiger Woods. So it's fair to say Scottie keeping this up is not a guarantee.

But how he plays does appear to be more sustainable. It's not miracle shots and insane chipping and 60 footers out of nowhere. It's just long and straight and long and straight and longer and straighter.

Scottie's release must be really fluid right now because his feet are moving everywhere and it doesn't matter. But yes, that could be his Achilles heel at some point.
 

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Spieth early in his career went on a massive heater, but nobody's played as well as Scheffler has since Tiger dominated the tour.
Spieth won a bunch but wasn’t as statistically dominant like Scottie is.

Tee to green Scottie is light years better than the rest of the players like Tiger was. And he’s been consistently doing it for more than 2 years now. I don’t know how you beat him.
 

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Nantz with a little shot at LIV.
Heard that! This entire majors season will be interesting. With these guys now all 12+ months out from the PGA tour, will the difference really start to catch up? They’re not replicating the pressure, field size, format, or duration (72 holes). I wonder what the effects will be as they get further away from it.
 

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Heard that! This entire majors season will be interesting. With these guys now all 12+ months out from the PGA tour, will the difference really start to catch up? They’re not replicating the pressure, field size, format, or duration (72 holes). I wonder what the effects will be as they get further away from it.
At least through the first major, the LIV guys were really not involved. DeChamblees made a run but he's been gone for a while now. And the rest weren't ever close. Rham, DJ, and Koepka in particular were never even close.

And Scottie just stomping on the neck of everyone. No mercy.
 

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The good news for Jean, he lives forever in golf lore. Maybe even for sports lore.
wiki:
He made a comeback at the 2005 Open de France, where he lost a playoff to fellow Frenchman Jean-François Remésy after, once again, finding water on the last hole.
In 2006, he won his second European Tour title, 13 years after his first one, at the Madeira Island Open Caixa Geral de Depositos. With a three-stroke lead entering the last hole, van de Velde made a double bogey on the 72nd hole, but still finished with a 68 to win by a shot
 

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I was hoping Scottie’s wife would call and he’d have to sprint off right after winning to see the birth of his child
 

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Nantz really had to work to force that "man from the Lone Star State stands alone" into his comments
 

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Great post Masters interview with Scheffler.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0uLyvWNQOo


He seems like a great, great guy, and super easy for me to root for. On the course he may not have the kind of personality that jumps off the page, but clearly in this interview he's fun, engaged, funny, answers questions honestly and deeply, and seems like he's got a really good head on his shoulders. I'm a fan.
 

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Great post Masters interview with Scheffler.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0uLyvWNQOo


He seems like a great, great guy, and super easy for me to root for. On the course he may not have the kind of personality that jumps off the page, but clearly in this interview he's fun, engaged, funny, answers questions honestly and deeply, and seems like he's got a really good head on his shoulders. I'm a fan.
A more religious, less handsome, Mike Trout?
 

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Why? I’m curious and not challenging. I’m not really paying attention to impact of LIV.
A few of the better players are there now. Notably Rahm, Dechambeau, Koepka and Smith. As well as a bunch who would be in their long goodbye years on the PGA Tour (e.g., Sergio, Watson, etc.). So some fans are cranky about being deprived of everyone being out there. Personally, I haven't really noticed a difference in the PGA Tour product? It's still a bunch of guys with freak show skill sets. But I also always liked watching Korn Ferry from time-to-time and like the LPGA Tour product too.

It's a kind of weird comment in a major thread though since the majors still have everyone who matters in the fields.
 

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Why? I’m curious and not challenging. I’m not really paying attention to impact of LIV.
The guys that left for LIV.... I just don't pay any attention to them at all, similar to your approach. I love the new young guys coming up on the PGA Tour and couldn't care less about Patrick Reed or even DeChambeau. Is it brand loyalty? Maybe. I just think LIV is dumb and I have zero interest in it. In fact, I kind of wish those guys were ineligible to compete in the majors. You want to play LIV? Fine, but the price to pay is no majors, and no Ryder/Presidents Cup. Take your money and run but that's the end of your golf career.

For some, it will still be worth it. But for many who are currently thinking about going, nope, not gonna do it if that's the price to pay. Opens the door for good, exciting young players to come up. I'm fine with that.
 

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A few of the better players are there now. Notably Rahm, Dechambeau, Koepka and Smith. As well as a bunch who would be in their long goodbye years on the PGA Tour (e.g., Sergio, Watson, etc.). So some fans are cranky about being deprived of everyone being out there. Personally, I haven't really noticed a difference in the PGA Tour product? It's still a bunch of guys with freak show skill sets. But I also always liked watching Korn Ferry from time-to-time and like the LPGA Tour product too.

It's a kind of weird comment in a major thread though since the majors still have everyone who matters in the fields.
The guys that left for LIV.... I just don't pay any attention to them at all, similar to your approach. I love the new young guys coming up on the PGA Tour and couldn't care less about Patrick Reed or even DeChambeau. Is it brand loyalty? Maybe. I just think LIV is dumb and I have zero interest in it. In fact, I kind of wish those guys were ineligible to compete in the majors. You want to play LIV? Fine, but the price to pay is no majors, and no Ryder/Presidents Cup. Take your money and run but that's the end of your golf career.

For some, it will still be worth it. But for many who are currently thinking about going, nope, not gonna do it if that's the price to pay. Opens the door for good, exciting young players to come up. I'm fine with that.
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The guys that left for LIV.... I just don't pay any attention to them at all, similar to your approach. I love the new young guys coming up on the PGA Tour and couldn't care less about Patrick Reed or even DeChambeau. Is it brand loyalty? Maybe. I just think LIV is dumb and I have zero interest in it. In fact, I kind of wish those guys were ineligible to compete in the majors. You want to play LIV? Fine, but the price to pay is no majors, and no Ryder/Presidents Cup. Take your money and run but that's the end of your golf career.

For some, it will still be worth it. But for many who are currently thinking about going, nope, not gonna do it if that's the price to pay. Opens the door for good, exciting young players to come up. I'm fine with that.
If anything, banning LIV guys would only devalue the majors. You're basically left with 4 more Players which IMO is the tournmanet that's been devalued the most by LIV. The idea of the majors is to identify the best player(s) in the world. If you immediately disqualify a segment of professional players then you're not really doing that. The beef is between the PGA Tour and LIV, the majors are separate entites and their interests are to host a tournment featuring the best players in the world not get in the middle of that tussle. They've all basically just stuck to their pre-existing qualification standards. Many of the LIV players are going to slowly drift out as the years go on anyway.

Also, the LIV players who compete in majors earned their way in based on their on-course accomplishments in mjajor championships. They aren't there based on their performance on LIV. Bryson played because he won the 2020 US Open which gave him 5 years of exemptions into all 4 majors. That will run out after next year and if he wants to continue to play, he'll have to earn it through his performance in major championships or going through Open qualifying for the majors where that path exists. If he does so, good for him, he'd have earned.
 

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A few of the better players are there now. Notably Rahm, Dechambeau, Koepka and Smith. As well as a bunch who would be in their long goodbye years on the PGA Tour (e.g., Sergio, Watson, etc.). So some fans are cranky about being deprived of everyone being out there. Personally, I haven't really noticed a difference in the PGA Tour product? It's still a bunch of guys with freak show skill sets. But I also always liked watching Korn Ferry from time-to-time and like the LPGA Tour product too.

It's a kind of weird comment in a major thread though since the majors still have everyone who matters in the fields.
It's not just about what it's done to the fields, for me personally. I hate everything LIV stands for and the way the thing has unfolded, with the PGA compromising itself in the process by cutting a deal with them.

I fully understand why not everyone would feel the same way. And it is good that the majors are open to all the top players.