Sure, but it's the "told Patriots have signaled they won't match it" is the part that doesn't make sense to me.
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No idea, and again it's all likely BS, but I would think if the Pats would be amenable to a contract that size it would've happened before we ever got to FA.
It might not be the money they'd have trouble with matching, it might be the ownership stake
An ownership stake if made as part of a deal to a free agent would seem to have to be valued for cap purposes, I would think.
Forbes calculates valuations of the NFL franchises annually, and as of last accounting estimated the value of the Raiders at $2.9 billion. So a point (1%) would be worth about $29 million. And i suspect that any non-cash consideration (points, or ownership of Burger Kings, or whatever) would have to be included for cap purposes and that the NFL by-laws might preclude making this type (NFL team ownership) of offer.
The NFL doesn't but Packers as a publicly owned company make financial records public and the analysts at Forbes probably use those #s to make estimated valuations of teams.
In any case my response was to your question about the value of NFL franchises..
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Doesn't matter. Only player compensation counts against the cap. Comparing how a coach is compensated to a player is apples to oranges.
Tough to watch. It’s like when you break up with your girlfriend but agree to remain friends for some reason. Unrequited love.
He definitely said "He's not." Which has about as much meaning as Edelman, who is clearly just teasing his friend.
I don't know what's been going on longer, the democratic primary or this free agency period (or has that even started yet?)
Like... there’s no way he possibly leaves... is there? Like for real?
View: https://twitter.com/edelman11/status/1233939458459828224?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/edelman11/status/1233939458459828224?s=21
Edelman loves Brady unconditionally and would never do anything like this without Brady saying it’s ok. Brady wouldn’t say this is ok unless he were coming back. That’s what I firmly believe
also this is killing me. I love Brady more than I love any team or any sport. My first memory of a football game is being five and watching him beat the panthers in the super bowl. If he leaves I don’t know that I’d be able to watch football again
I know they are pals and went through a lot together but this doesn’t sit right with me. Screw Vrabel. They just knocked us out of the playoffs. It’s a silly reaction, I know. It’s not like they can’t be friends and still be highly competitive, but I don’t have to like it.
The Brady discussion has really driven home to me how much I root for the Laundry over the player. I think it is part generational. I loved the Patriots before Brady got here and will love them after he is gone, and if he goes to play somewhere else and it is ever Belichick v. Brady, that would be the easiest decision in the world. I won’t root for him if he leaves unless doing so is good for the Patriots somehow (like if he can beat the Ravens or Chiefs) and if he can hurt the Patriots, even modestly, I will hope he gets crushed. And then I will love him again when he retires.
Same with Vrabel. Seriously. F him. When he is not a coach who can hurt the Patriots I will be fine seeing him FaceTiming with our stars.
Absolutely true.
For the Pats fans whose only QB has been Brady.... oh boy. You have a cold dose of reality coming up that you are not ready for.
There will be high school graduates this spring who have never known another starting quarterback (Cassell year understood)
Christ, I had forgotten about Hodson, Wilson, and the others, you assholes. Here’s another one for you:
Scott Secules
Scott Secules
Yes, there was that game against the Jets where he threw for 64 yards but lost 68 yards in sacks, for a net of -4 yards passing. But he did eventually get 2 Super Bowl rings for holding Joe Montana's clipboard. He was also the QB for the infamous John Lennon game. And, while we're on the topic, don't forget Tom Owen.
To be fair, Secules was a career backup thrust onto the scene when Bledsoe sprained his knee his rookie year and missed 4 games. To be fair, he was horrid.
Same here, and I remember thinking there was hope when they brought in Joe Kapp
Young Patriots fans cannot comprehend that in the span of three years, the Patriots had a 1-15 season and a 2-14 season, sandwiched around an exceptionally good 6-10 season. In the 1-15 season (1990), they had a net point differential of -265, meaning they lost by an average of nearly 17 points a game.
Someone who uses the 1990 season as a starting point IS a "young Patriots fan"
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He had 12 wins and 1 loss for Minnesota in 1969 ending in a loss in Super Bowl IV followed by a fall off the cliff 1 win and 9 losses record in 1970 with the Patriots. Ouch.
The W-L record is immaterial (given that the entire team is responsible for the record) ... but the 3/17 TD/INT ratio is special
Not sure how Pronounce became Prove, before. I referenced Joe Kapp here recently in another thread to crickets
My first memory of football is my dad driving me and my brother to Goffstown NH to watch Patriots games in a cottage with no heat in a probably 15” black and white TV because the Pats were blacked out in Mass. the other weeks he was on the roof trying to get the pats out of Providence on the rotary antenna and almost fell off and died. This was probably 1989?
The other first thing I can think of was the Bud Bowl commercials. I’m only 37 we’ve come a long way.
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One thing that is difficult for me to understand is what the point of all this drama is, exactly. It would seem that TB's team is trying to create a lot of speculation about whether TB is going or staying - and in other situations, you would think that would be to try and maximize the contract he's going to be getting. But, in this particular context, I don't quite get it. This isn't baseball, where the sky is almost the limit with regards to what the Pats could offer him. Also, it's a classic "robbing Peter to pay Paul" type of situation where Brady could get a little bit more money, but that's going to come at the cost of offensive line/weapons/overall success - which I'm sure he understands, and shouldn't be that valuable to him.
What should be, and I imagine is, the most important thing for Brady is to continue to enhance/maintain his brand image. That is far more valuable to him than another $500,000 in salary. So, being on the Patriots (or any other team) and putting up lousy numbers, getting sacked all the time, and missing the playoffs would be complete stupidity for him. The idiots on the radio keep talking about "This is Brady's chance to finally get top dollar". That would be so incredibly stupid of him - and I don't think he's stupid. So, what is this all about, then? What is he trying to achieve with all this stuff?
What should be, and I imagine is, the most important thing for Brady is to continue to enhance/maintain his brand image. That is far more valuable to him than another $500,000 in salary. So, being on the Patriots (or any other team) and putting up lousy numbers, getting sacked all the time, and missing the playoffs would be complete stupidity for him. The idiots on the radio keep talking about "This is Brady's chance to finally get top dollar". That would be so incredibly stupid of him - and I don't think he's stupid. So, what is this all about, then? What is he trying to achieve with all this stuff?
He'll be 43 when the season starts. If he has a bad year and then retires, I don't think it hurts his image at all.
That being said, the Patriots can pay him the big bucks AND get him his weapons. They would have to mortgage the future to do so though, a future that doesn't involve Brady regardless of what he ends up doing.
That being said, the Patriots can pay him the big bucks AND get him his weapons. They would have to mortgage the future to do so though, a future that doesn't involve Brady regardless of what he ends up doing.
My earliest memories of the Pats is Bledsoe’s tour de force game against Minnesota. So I only know Bledsoe and Brady.
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