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NYG: DE Mathias Kiwanuka has been informed of his release. In nine years, he was part of two Super Bowl championship teams.
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NYG: DE Mathias Kiwanuka has been informed of his release. In nine years, he was part of two Super Bowl championship teams.
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NYG have tagged Jason Pierre-Paul, my colleague @RapSheet reports.
dcmissle said:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/03/23/report-giants-may-let-manning-play-out-the-final-year-of-his-contract-in-2015/NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Might this be Eli Manning’s last season with the Giants?
It might be heresy, but it’s at least possible.
According to an ESPN report, the sides have been unable to work out a long-term extension and the Giants appear to be willing to let the [SIZE=inherit]veteran[/SIZE]quarterback play out the 2015 season, the final year of his contract.
It is believed Manning, 34, is seeking a contract that at the very least rivals the five-year, $99 million deal Ben Roethlisberger agreed to with the Pittsburgh Steelers last week.
MentalDisabldLst said:It's a fair question how much longer the Giants want to commit to him. He bounced back after a terrible 2013 to have a pretty good 2014, probably his best since 2011. He's been remarkably durable - has never missed a game since winning the job in 2004. A very durable, slightly-above-average quarterback is probably worth the $20M he's asking, frankly... I just don't know about the years.
BigSoxFan said:Eli has a career rating of 82.4 and has only had 3 seasons of 90+. Big Beg's career rating is nearly 94. What is the real opportunity cost of letting Eli go? I would balk if I were the Giants.
But Big Ben is not replacement level at QB- he's far better than what they could get. Sam Bradford is not even replacement level - the Browns offered the #19 overall pick. Replacement level is Christian Ponder.BigSoxFan said:Eli has a career rating of 82.4 and has only had 3 seasons of 90+. Big Beg's career rating is nearly 94. What is the real opportunity cost of letting Eli go? I would balk if I were the Giants.
Super Nomario said:The interesting philosophical question: how bad does the QB have to be where you say, "you know what? I'm cool with Fitzy?" In my head, I call it The Dalton Line.
OilCanShotTupac said:There is a 100% chance he ends up as a Jet if they let him walk.
Which I don't wish for, because good luck hearing about anything else connected with the NFL, ever.
He's going to be a Giant next year regardless of he gets a new contract or not. He'll get franchised if they can't agree to terms.OilCanShotTupac said:There is a 100% chance he ends up as a Jet if they let him walk.
Which I don't wish for, because good luck hearing about anything else connected with the NFL, ever.
soxfan121 said:
First, friends don't let friends be cool with Fitzy.
Second, I think this'll be known as the Bradford line by mid-October.
OilCanShotTupac said:There is a 100% chance he ends up as a Jet if they let him walk.
Which I don't wish for, because good luck hearing about anything else connected with the NFL, ever.
pappymojo said:Eli signs four year extension, $84 million ($65 guaranteed)
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/eli-manning-lands-four-year-84-million-e-xtension/
"As a running back, it's really tough when they tell you not to score," Jennings said.
Which is weird, because if Jennings had scored on first down from the 4-yard line or second down from the 2-yard line after the two-minute warning, as he insists he could have, the Giants would have had a 10-point lead with about 100 seconds left in the game. No amount of Tony Romo magic could have overcome that.
So who was telling him not to score and why? This from Eli Manning may help explain:
"I thought they had used their last timeout on that play to Odell when we got the first down," Manning said. "I thought that they only had one timeout left after that. I guess since there was a penalty, even though we declined it, for some reason that stops the clock."
That is true. By rule, the clock stops on a penalty in the final five minutes of the fourth quarter whether the penalty is declined or accepted. Manning didn't know this, and so he assumed Dallas had called timeout and that the clock would keep running after Jennings' second-down run.
"Bad clock management there," Manning said.
Oil Can Dan said:
The word unbelievable gets used way too much, but it's just unbelievable that Eli Manning could possibly have told his RB to not score to take a 10 point lead with under 2 to play.
Agrees. Without JPP they were blown off the LOS consistently.BigSoxFan said:So, the Giants score when they shouldn't (Bradshaw) and don't score when they should. I think a bigger concern for this team is how bad their DL is.
BigSoxFan said:So, the Giants score when they shouldn't (Bradshaw) and don't score when they should. I think a bigger concern for this team is how bad their DL is.
lostjumper said:Agrees. Without JPP they were blown off the LOS consistently.
I'm curious as to why you want Coughlin gone. He certainly seems to have gotten the most out of Eli over the years and doesn't appear to have hit any kind of age-related wall where the game has passed him by. Two SBs as well as contending teams in most seasons over the last decade. Do you think they just need a fresh voice going forward?StuckOnYouk said:Brutal loss to Dallas tonight, although in hindsight maybe they just need to completely shit the bed and get a top 5 pick and have Coughlin and Reese get booted out the door once and for all. .
Of course what usually happens is NY starts off 2-8 and then wins 5 of 6 to give them the 10th-15th pick and the management stays the same.
The media is reporting that Eli is also the person who told the RB not to score as well. So he told the RB not to score, then threw away the 3rd down ball he should have slid with or taken the sack. That is a major brain fade... by any definition. You'd like to think that the defense could have stopped Dallas (either of the last two drives) but there is plenty of failure on Eli's part as well.RedOctober3829 said:Everybody is killing Eli for what happened on Sunday night but no mention of the defense getting gashed twice. When it was all said and done, Dallas needed to go 72 yards in 1:34 with no timeouts. That's on the defense.
Eli screwed up no doubt, but most are glossing over the fact that the offense handed over a 6 point lead with 1:34 left and Dallas having 0 timeouts. Find a way to keep them out of the end zone and they win. That's all. It's a total team breakdown not one side over the other.RetractableRoof said:The media is reporting that Eli is also the person who told the RB not to score as well. So he told the RB not to score, then threw away the 3rd down ball he should have slid with or taken the sack. That is a major brain fade... by any definition. You'd like to think that the defense could have stopped Dallas (either of the last two drives) but there is plenty of failure on Eli's part as well.
That's because mental mistakes are always harder to absorb. Yeah Pedro and Wake gave up the runs, but I'll always think of Grady's Boner when it comes to that game.RedOctober3829 said:Eli screwed up no doubt, but most are glossing over the fact that the offense handed over a 6 point lead with 1:34 left and Dallas having 0 timeouts. Find a way to keep them out of the end zone and they win. That's all. It's a total team breakdown not one side over the other.
The media just isn't reporting it. Eli gave a full interview yesterday where he sounded like he didn't understand the concepts of basic football. It was amazing how little of a grasp he had on the situation. He didn't know the score, he didn't know how many timeouts they had and then did as you said above told the RB not to score then pulled that crap. He said he was thinking back to the Patriots Super bowl which was a completely different situation.RetractableRoof said:The media is reporting that Eli is also the person who told the RB not to score as well. So he told the RB not to score, then threw away the 3rd down ball he should have slid with or taken the sack. That is a major brain fade... by any definition. You'd like to think that the defense could have stopped Dallas (either of the last two drives) but there is plenty of failure on Eli's part as well.
This is absolutely right. That whole sequence required failures on multiple levels. The coaches had 2-3 opportunities from timeouts to discuss it, too. Even if Eli already knows, the coaching staff has to tell him exactly what to do. At the end of the day, Jennings public comments forced Eli and Coughlin to admit more than they wanted.NortheasternPJ said:The media just isn't reporting it. Eli gave a full interview yesterday where he sounded like he didn't understand the concepts of basic football. It was amazing how little of a grasp he had on the situation. He didn't know the score, he didn't know how many timeouts they had and then did as you said above told the RB not to score then pulled that crap. He said he was thinking back to the Patriots Super bowl which was a completely different situation.
The defense definitely got gashed but yikes. Also where the hell were the coaches? Don't they make it clear to him if it's not there to stay in bounds and take a sack?
On Wednesday, Jennings took to the pages of the New York Post to apologize to Coughlin and Manning.
"I see now how what I said could easily be misunderstood as an expression of resentment,"Jennings wrote. "I make no claims to be a perfect communicator. But I also assure that I had no ill will at all in stating what I did. Yet I admit in retrospect that I should not have shared that information with the world. I chose to do so, and for that choice, I am truly sorry ...