Looking for best music & communication solution for a 4 month long hike in remote areas

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This June I am embarking on 4 month hike thru remote areas of Missouri, KY and PA. I have hiked some of the route before so I know issues I will run into. Back in 2013 when I did a cross country hike thru parts of this one, I only had my cell phone a (Kyocera Tourque) with me. I went thru 5 of them on the 6 month trek, because I asked too much of the phone.

I had spotify and pandora accts that I listened to along with the WEEI app that I used when I had signal. My brain talks too much without the distraction of music or something in my ear, especially on the long days. I also used the phone to track my progress that day (google map) facebook and of course for calls and texting. I had to carry extra batteries for the phone because most would only last 3-4 hours and somedays the hike would be 10 hours.

I was lucky then, because I was connected with the Military liason for Sprint who I met just before the walk and his office was able to send me replacement phone. I don't have that safety net this time.

I am wondering if there is a MP3 / spotify player that is seperate from a cell phone that can pull signal from a tower vs bluetooth or wifi? I can't find one on amazon, but maybe I don't know what to search for. I know technology has advanced a mega ton in the last decade so I am hoping for an easy and not too expensive solution.

If that is not available or simply not needed, what cell phone can do all the heavy lifting I am asking of it with out dying in a month or so or with out having to carry multiple battery chargers to help me get thru the day.

Currently I have Mint and will jump to AT&T or VZN before I hit the road.

Any ideas or suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 

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For the music solution, I guess my first thought is to break the problem in two parts.... get your preferred music player with Wifi support, and get yourself a mobile hotspot device to provide the signal for it? That also serves the purpose of taking strain off your phone. Might not totally eliminate the need for extra batteries (obviously you'll want to check the expected battery life on the hotspot device you choose), but at least maybe you're alternating between charging the hotspot and the phone?
 

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Yeah, think of it as a device that provides a cell phone signal without actually being a phone. Your MP3 device would connect to it as it would wifi, and it's basically a bridge that then connects to the cell tower for you. They can be as small as something you can put on your keychain, or bulkier from there... for your purposes, size probably corresponds to battery life, so guessing you don't want a keychain-sized one.
 

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If I'm understanding correctly, you are talking about being able to play Spotify over WiFi? Paid Spotify allows you to make offline playlists. You could make a giant one, then turn off WiFi so your phone doesn't stress looking for it. I used offline playlists all the time when I'd go on long mountain bike rides or multiple day rafting trips
 

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My friend who does week+ long hikes with zero connectivity (in Yosemite / John Muir Trail) uses an iPod Touch for his music - you can get them on ebay still - he loads it up with his mp3s and off he goes, I think the battery lasts 2-3 days per charge. For communication/tracking he uses a Garmin inReach device - I think his is the mini 2. This requires a subscription for all but the route-planning, but it can communicate text messages and position via satellite (no cell signal needed). It's really handy for keeping loved ones updated on your progress and generally feeling good about your safety. However, you can't use this to stream music.

If it's sunny, there are small/portable solar panel chargers you can put on the outside of your pack to charge backup batteries while you hike. I think you basically need one extra USB battery and the solar charger and you are good to go.

I don't think any of these things are super-cheap, unfortunately.

EDIT: I wonder if your previous phone battery issue was because you were right at the edge of cell signal (0-1 bars) for large parts of your hike and the phone was constantly hunting for a tower - that burns up a ton of battery usually. Having GPS on also tends to burn through battery. If you shut off cellular radio and GPS when you didn't need them, you might be able to get the phone to last a long time, just using it as a music player.
 
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EDIT: I wonder if your previous phone battery issue was because you were right at the edge of cell signal (0-1 bars) for large parts of your hike and the phone was constantly hunting for a tower - that burns up a ton of battery usually. Having GPS on also tends to burn through battery. If you shut off cellular radio and GPS when you didn't need them, you might be able to get the phone to last a long time, just using it as a music player.
@cgori you nailed the issue. Perfect scenerio is I keep my phone in one of the pockets of my ruck to take/make a call and text messages and my Media source is seperate and can store music or audio books when there is no signal. The other caveot is I have trouble sleeping in quiet, so the mp3 player would need to be working pretty much 20 hours or each day of most of the trip. MP3 players are cheap and I can preload a couple before the trip to have a back up... atleast that was what I was thinking before this thread.
 

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My friend who does week+ long hikes with zero connectivity (in Yosemite / John Muir Trail) uses an iPod Touch for his music - you can get them on ebay still - he loads it up with his mp3s and off he goes, I think the battery lasts 2-3 days per charge.
Yeah, you're way better off with an mp3 player with your music loaded on it than streaming for this sort of situation. Saves a ton of battery use, and doesn't rely on having connectivity of any sort. If you carry a solar charger and get one of the longer-lasting mp3 players (my brother has a Luoran that he loves) you can pretty much go indefinitely this way.

Failing that, paid Spotify and offline playback is worth investigating.
 

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I would also "split the problem."

I have a cheapo mp3 player onto which I've loaded about 300 CDs over the last 10 years. I leave it in the car and occasionally take it travelling. The only bell or whistle it has is bluetooth capability to ear buds.

When I go on long backpacking trips, I don't usually bring music, but I do bring a standalone camera to just keep my phone to phone stuff. Solar power can be pretty inexpensive now. I saw someone hiking with something in Yosemite a summer or two ago that clipped to the top of her pack and charged a charging block (but not a device directly). She said it took all day (and Yosemite at elevation in the summer is nothing but unobstructed sunlight), but it was cheap, lightweight, and did the trick, as she only needed to hook stuff up to the block every few days.
 

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Yup, a mp3 player with wired earbuds/headphones will last all day on a charge. Get one that you can throw a micro SD card into and you can load it with plenty of music/podcasts/books.
 

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If I'm understanding correctly, you are talking about being able to play Spotify over WiFi? Paid Spotify allows you to make offline playlists. You could make a giant one, then turn off WiFi so your phone doesn't stress looking for it. I used offline playlists all the time when I'd go on long mountain bike rides or multiple day rafting trips
This works well for me too. Keep the phone in airplane mode most of the time and the battery will last days, and you'll only need one device.