Former Viking has 158 catches in 3 years. 26 years old.
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NFL.com was higher, 64th overall 6th WRThe Athletic has him as the #124 free agent in this year's class, and has this to say:
Osborn had a disappointing season, dropping seven passes, according to PFF. But he was rarely the primary read, and he’s a strong blocker and runner after the catch. He’s probably in line for a short-term deal between $5 million and $8 million. — Alec Lewis
https://theathletic.com/5326462/2024/03/15/best-available-nfl-free-agents/
Yeah, the Bourne acquisition a few years ago immediately came to mind. They’ll probably have several draft picks on the roster, and who knows if we ever see Boutte again, so adding another vet you know is at least playable is a good idea.Interesting pickup.
5th rounder in 2020, played ST only that year.
2021- 655 yards on 82 targets, despite being under 6' they used him as a downfield thread (10.5 ADOT) probably because he's pretty strong and an excellent vert.
2022- 650 yards on 90 targets, changed up his route package some, shorter ADOT but more YAC
2023- bit of a down year 540 on 75 targets, some of that could be the QB carousel, but he also had some drop issues for the first time.
RAS comps are Percy Harvin and Sterling Shepard.
I'm intrigued, he's been stuck in a tertiary role, kind of like Bourne, good floor, maybe a breakout candidate to join the #2 WR ranks
He has a different skillset/body than Douglas, and... you need 5 or 6 WRs, Juju is gone after this season at the latest, and the new staff/FO don't have any attachment to make them play him.Don’t really understand the signing. More of what they already have with Douglas, Bourne and JJSS in terms of role (low end 2/better suited for #3)
If the goal is to build through the draft, why clog the roster with guys like this? Would have made more sense had Bourne not been retained.
JuJu had 29 catches and by end of season was barely seeing the field. You need 5/6 guys who can catch the ball, who will Osborn be blocking?Don’t really understand the signing. More of what they already have with Douglas, Bourne and JJSS in terms of role (low end 2/better suited for #3)
If the goal is to build through the draft, why clog the roster with guys like this? Would have made more sense had Bourne not been retained.
Those two names pair well.I hope they can figure out how to use Bourne and Osborn at the same time. They seem to have similar skills, with Osborn a slightly better blocker I believe.
If they draft a lot of OL and DB, it’s not the worst thing in the world.
At first I was like "stop flexing, it's 33-0."According to Wikipedia those catches came in the largest comeback in NFL history.
Seems from that video as the kinda guy Brady would make look like a star. Here's hoping he steps up if we get a quality QB.Here is his best game as a pro.
View: https://twitter.com/Winnesota18/status/1769461352219754893
One thing that really stands out is... 5'11 203 he's strong (even at the combine really good bench and vert) he runs through arm tackles. Feel like he's an actual threat on the WR screens and backfield stuff that a lot of Shanahan/McVay schemes run (see Deebo, Puka, etc.)
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The thing is, if they’re in full rebuild mode, a one year deal for a guy with butterfingers (among the league leaders in drop % last year) doesn’t serve any purpose. He’s clearly not a #1. So either he’s taking snaps from Bourne/Douglas or he’s blocking guys who are cost controlled beyond 2024 (Thornton, Boutte, draft picks, UDFA etc)JuJu had 29 catches and by end of season was barely seeing the field. You need 5/6 guys who can catch the ball, who will Osborn be blocking?
If Osborn sucks and is on a 1 year deal and Thornton or Boutte can’t beat him out then that’s on them. There’s no downside.The thing is, if they’re in full rebuild mode, a one year deal for a guy with butterfingers (among the league leaders in drop % last year) doesn’t serve any purpose. He’s clearly not a #1. So either he’s taking snaps from Bourne/Douglas or he’s blocking guys who are cost controlled beyond 2024 (Thornton, Boutte, draft picks, UDFA etc)
What purpose does this serve? It doesn’t help a young QB, as Osborn isn’t very good and doesn’t catch well. He’s not signed beyond 24 so he’s not part of a long term vision
And I fully expect JJSS to be given a chance to prove his knee is healthy and compete for playing time given his contract is under water
But even assuming JJSS is gone, you have (hopefully) a top 75 pick on a WR, Douglas and Bourne all more deserving of snaps than this guy. So he’s going to be blocking anyone they want to develop whether it’s an in house guy like Thornton or a later round pick or Boutte.
You are overthinking this signing. They need guys who can play, who have at least been productive. This guy has been decent which is more than you can say for Thornton, JuJu (in NE), and Raegor. The team needs to raise the floor and create competition in the receiver room. This is a start.The thing is, if they’re in full rebuild mode, a one year deal for a guy with butterfingers (among the league leaders in drop % last year) doesn’t serve any purpose. He’s clearly not a #1. So either he’s taking snaps from Bourne/Douglas or he’s blocking guys who are cost controlled beyond 2024 (Thornton, Boutte, draft picks, UDFA etc)
What purpose does this serve? It doesn’t help a young QB, as Osborn isn’t very good and doesn’t catch well. He’s not signed beyond 24 so he’s not part of a long term vision
And I fully expect JJSS to be given a chance to prove his knee is healthy and compete for playing time given his contract is under water
But even assuming JJSS is gone, you have (hopefully) a top 75 pick on a WR, Douglas and Bourne all more deserving of snaps than this guy. So he’s going to be blocking anyone they want to develop whether it’s an in house guy like Thornton or a later round pick or Boutte.
He is pretty good, and last year's drop numbers are a major outlier, his career drop% before last year was 2.3%, which is very good (as an example, Ridley's lowest year is 3.2 and his career rate is 5.4, Justin Jefferson's career number is 2.7) Beyond that... how many snaps do you think the top 3 WRs are going to play? Especially when one of them is a rookie and one is a slight slot only guy who got concussed twice in only 480 snaps? Edit- oh an the 3rd is coming off a torn ACL and might not be 100% by camp.The thing is, if they’re in full rebuild mode, a one year deal for a guy with butterfingers (among the league leaders in drop % last year) doesn’t serve any purpose. He’s clearly not a #1. So either he’s taking snaps from Bourne/Douglas or he’s blocking guys who are cost controlled beyond 2024 (Thornton, Boutte, draft picks, UDFA etc)
What purpose does this serve? It doesn’t help a young QB, as Osborn isn’t very good and doesn’t catch well. He’s not signed beyond 24 so he’s not part of a long term vision
And I fully expect JJSS to be given a chance to prove his knee is healthy and compete for playing time given his contract is under water
But even assuming JJSS is gone, you have (hopefully) a top 75 pick on a WR, Douglas and Bourne all more deserving of snaps than this guy. So he’s going to be blocking anyone they want to develop whether it’s an in house guy like Thornton or a later round pick or Boutte.
Building an offense that works for the young QB is exactly why this move doesn’t really make sense to me. Osborne isn’t a good WR. He’s not bad, but if the intention is “make young QB comfortable in 2024” there were more talented and more experienced guys to be had. And on a one year deal, I can’t imagine a soon to be 27 year old with a 6.5% drop rate last year is going to be counted on too much to be a building block.He is pretty good, and last year's drop numbers are a major outlier, his career drop% before last year was 2.3%, which is very good (as an example, Ridley's lowest year is 3.2 and his career rate is 5.4, Justin Jefferson's career number is 2.7) Beyond that... how many snaps do you think the top 3 WRs are going to play? Especially when one of them is a rookie and one is a slight slot only guy who got concussed twice in only 480 snaps? Edit- oh an the 3rd is coming off a torn ACL and might not be 100% by camp.
I'd also say that Boutte (if he's not in prison) and Thornton haven't shown enough to be handed snaps. Bad WR snaps hurt everyone. It's bad for the QB's development if the WRs aren't where they are supposed to be, it's bad for the other WRs, it's bad for the whole offense if they can't block. There is a ton of value to a good experienced WR who is one of the only guys on the offense who has run the system.
I don't want my rookie QB going out there, making his progressions and Thornton took 12 steps at the break so the QB can't make the right read, or Boutte ran the wrong route and now the spacing is off and nobody can get open, or we can't run outside because we can't make the correct block.
Good solid NFL players are valuable in developing your good players, the back of the roster cut candidates aren't being blocked, if they improe they might get snaps, if they don't they'll get cut, but you can't be making decisions to help them at the expense of the team, because that is bad for the few (only?) important people to develop. Thornton doesn't matter, Boutte either, if something changes with them... awesome, but they should have basically zero impact on how the GM builds this team, the focus should be on the #3 pick and building an offense that works for guys like the O-linemen who might be here long term. Even Bourne... I love Bourne, but he's 29 coming off an ACL, who knows what he looks like and for how long.
QB/OL have to be priorities #1 and #2. WR's can be found anywhere unless your name is Bill Belichick who hardly could choose WR's to save his life. I trust Wolf to find receivers going forward if they are fully changing their scouting methods. They probably will use pick #68 on a WR depending on what is left. If they can get the QB/OL this year then I put resources next year in WR/TE. The QB is the most important thing that matters.Barring something unforeseen, it’s going to be more of the same at the WR/TE position. Sucks to pass on potential studs like Harrison, Nabers, Odunze but have to get QB/OL help first or nothing else matters. Given the limitations of what is available, I think Osborn is a fine stopgap solution. At some point, this team will have to make a significant investment at WR.
Agreed although I do wonder about #34, assuming they keep it. If all their preferred high value OTs are gone, do they go Mitchell, Thomas, or Coleman if one of them is there at #34? Or, do they trade down to mid 2nd and pick up an extra 3rd? Will be interesting to see.QB/OL have to be priorities #1 and #2. WR's can be found anywhere unless your name is Bill Belichick who hardly could choose WR's to save his life. I trust Wolf to find receivers going forward if they are fully changing their scouting methods. They probably will use pick #68 on a WR depending on what is left. If they can get the QB/OL this year then I put resources next year in WR/TE. The QB is the most important thing that matters.
Parker was 3 years older and had already begun to demonstrate his propensity to miss games with injuries. And with the excpetion of his last year (Waddle), he was the most targeted WR on the Dolphins. He never played behind WRs the caliber of Jefferson and Thielen.Eh, Davante Parker had 175 receptions for 2500 yards and 15 TD the three years prior to the Pats acquiring him.
This feels like a depth move for an organization that seems to only make depth moves nowadays.
Yeah, I think OT is the target there, but if they miss out on the run then don't force it with some dude ranked 65th. Take the top WR on your board and try to load up on OT later.Agreed although I do wonder about #34, assuming they keep it. If all their preferred high value OTs are gone, do they go Mitchell, Thomas, or Coleman if one of them is there at #34? Or, do they trade down to mid 2nd and pick up an extra 3rd? Will be interesting to see.
What am I missing here? Agholor signed with us in 2021 -- and Jakobi signed with the Raiders in 2023.Agholor: First round draft pick, signed after his rookie deal with the Raiders for a 1yr/1mil deal. He shows something in Vegas to make the Pats think he's better than Jakobi, so they go sign Agholor for 2/22, the day after those same Raiders signed Jakobi for 3/33. Now, he's on his 2nd year 1yr deal worth about 3.5mil each with the Ravens.
Sorry, you're correct. Messed up the dates.What am I missing here? Agholor signed with us in 2021 -- and Jakobi signed with the Raiders in 2023.