Week 13

koufax32

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Who am I missing?
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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Delay of game is called the same way at every level of the sport, including youth and high-school ball where the play clock is kept on the field — the official in charge of the call watches the clock until it hits zero, then checks to see if the ball has been snapped, then throws a flag if it hasn’t been. I don’t think we need to change that just because there are over a dozen cameras filming NFL games in HD, such that those of us at home can tell when the ball is snapped a quarter second late.
You could have a buzzer on the ref’s hip or something. If we want the rule to be 40 seconds “give or take,” I guess that’s ok, but if we are settling for that because it’s hard to officiate, we could fix that if we cared to.
 

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Who am I missing?
Pickett will probably miss some weeks
Kyler missed the first half of the year (though his injury was last season)
 

mauf

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You could have a buzzer on the ref’s hip or something. If we want the rule to be 40 seconds “give or take,” I guess that’s ok, but if we are settling for that because it’s hard to officiate, we could fix that if we cared to.
We aren’t settling. We’re doing what we’ve always done, because to do otherwise would make the game worse. No one wants more flags. And it would be ironic to delay the game so we can call more delay-of-game penalties.
 

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Beathard can’t take that sack.
 

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I think I would’ve made the Jags run the kicking unit onto the field with the clock running at the expense of saving 20-25 seconds for the offense.
 

Fred in Lynn

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Delay of game is called the same way at every level of the sport, including youth and high-school ball where the play clock is kept on the field — the official in charge of the call watches the clock until it hits zero, then checks to see if the ball has been snapped, then throws a flag if it hasn’t been. I don’t think we need to change that just because there are over a dozen cameras filming NFL games in HD, such that those of us at home can tell when the ball is snapped a quarter second late.
I’m not swayed. The NFL has taken an objective event and made it subjective (I’m not sure why the NFL needs to worry about how lower levels of football enforce the rule). I think simply enforcing the letter of the law is very low-hanging fruit, to the point that nice, ripe apples are lying all over the ground under the tree.

It’s a nice little distraction, this discussion, until it decides a critical game. It will give the Pat McAfees something to talk about for a couple of days. Then they’ll seek to fix it. That’s how we do it.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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We aren’t settling. We’re doing what we’ve always done, because to do otherwise would make the game worse. No one wants more flags. And it would be ironic to delay the game so we can call more delay-of-game penalties.
I’m just not getting it. I view the play clock as like a shot clock, not just a keep the game moving device.

I’m a soccer fan, so I can live with clocks being advisory. But when you have a clock in U.S. sports, you generally have a clock. I mean I don’t feel strongly, but I like rules. The neighborhood play was always the way it was done, until technology and review made it better.

Again don’t feel strongly and enjoy the discussion.
 

JohnnyTheBone

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I’m not swayed. The NFL has taken an objective event and made it subjective (I’m not sure why the NFL needs to worry about how lower levels of football enforce the rule). I think simply enforcing the letter of the law is very low-hanging fruit, to the point that nice, ripe apples are lying all over the ground under the tree.

It’s a nice little distraction, this discussion, until it decides a critical game. It will give the Pat McAfees something to talk about for a couple of days. Then they’ll seek to fix it. That’s how we do it.
Team Fred on this issue.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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I’m just not getting it. I view the play clock as like a shot clock, not just a keep the game moving device.

I’m a soccer fan, so I can live with clocks being advisory. But when you have a clock in U.S. sports, you generally have a clock. I mean I don’t feel strongly, but I like rules. The neighborhood play was always the way it was done, until technology and review made it better.

Again don’t feel strongly and enjoy the discussion.
This is barely related but I have always wondered why you can still score after the clock hits zero in basketball and football but not hockey.
 

mauf

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I’m just not getting it. I view the play clock as like a shot clock, not just a keep the game moving device.

I’m a soccer fan, so I can live with clocks being advisory. But when you have a clock in U.S. sports, you generally have a clock. I mean I don’t feel strongly, but I like rules. The neighborhood play was always the way it was done, until technology and review made it better.

Again don’t feel strongly and enjoy the discussion.
In practice, it will never be called much differently on the field than it is now. Maybe you could make it a point of emphasis to look up quickly when the clock hits zero, but it’s not possible to look at the ball and the play clock simultaneously.

So what we’d really get if you got your way is more replay reviews, and the occasional big play called back because the ball was snapped a quarter-second late. I don’t think that would make the game better.
 

mauf

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Terrible call. The defender flopped.