lol..ok. Yeah, that's what people are saying. Moving onRight that he had a real bad series? Wtf we all freakin know this! Imagine having a bad week at work as your boss and his VP go on television telling the world how much you suck. Name another player at his age….at ANY age….who has been thrown under the bus by so many people for having a bad playoff series?
That’s precisely what Doc and Embiid implied within 20 min of being eliminated.lol..ok. Yeah, that's what people are saying. Moving on
right onThat’s precisely what Doc and Embiid implied within 20 min of being eliminated.
I would describe HRB as "fluent".Just a masterclass job by HRB; some of his best work in this thread tbh.
He was going back and to the left?1) the ball was in his right hand as he got caught (or dribbled himself) too close to baseline before going up now Maybe he deserves criticism for putting himself that far low into a tough position to score when contested but the shot angle was tough.
Any NBA player should be able to score from there, but it would take a little bit longer…
2) because of that angle and the ball in his right and how long it would take. … I’m more convinced he was worried about a recovering Gallinari (?) coming from behind as opposed to Trey young in front of him. Part of that is he didn’t wanna take free throws,
but it wasn’t like he was driving from the elbow and got near the charge circle and passed up a layup
I would describe HRB as "fluent".
Lock itHe was going back and to the left?
Doc's #1 move is hanging guys out to dry. I mean a week ago he was throwing guys who played for him 20 years ago under the bus to try and counter the stories about his teams blowing a lot of 3-1 leads.If it was such a nothing burger, why did noted players coach Doc Rivers hang Simmons out to dry afterwards?
Forget the context. This right here is why the pass was so unbelievable. Comparing it to a kick out is weird. Add in the context and it finally makes sense.Yeah but it has context and the other passes you’re talking about happen under completely different circumstances.. and aren’t remotely the same.
edit: a pass out to a three point shooter is completely different than one to a person standing right next to you who has a similar or worse angle
If the sacrificed salary is ALL given to the 10-15 role players, mignt not be a bad thing?I would not be surprised if the owners push for a provision in the new CBA where owners get some salary relief from players who are not playing due to decisions like Kyrie’s (and to some extent Simmons). I think the owners can live with some “player empowerment“ , but not where it extends to guys getting paid full freight and not playing due to their own decisions.
I've heard of lose-lose trades before, but Harden for Simmons+ has to be by far the most lossy of them all.Harden's elimination game line:
11 points on 4/9 shooting, 4 reb 9 ast 4 TO and dogshit defense.
Quietly this is not only worse than Simmons' closeout performance last year, it's worse by a lot.
Isn't it looking more like a small-dunk fleecing of the 76ers by the Nets? The Nets not only got the preferable star of the two (as psychologically messed up as Simmons is at least he's not dealing with the incurable ailment of aging) they also got 2 first round draft picks and the third best 3 point shooter of all time (43.9%) on a reasonable contract.I've heard of lose-lose trades before, but Harden for Simmons+ has to be by far the most lossy of them all.
yeah, probably. The argument that the Nets lost is that getting nothing from Simmons meant they burned a KD/Kyrie year, which is fair, but not sure they had a winning team with Harden (short bursts in 2020-21 notwithstanding). Also that they got so little (if Simmons isn't back) for a guy they traded a ton for.Isn't it looking more like a small-dunk fleecing of the 76ers by the Nets? The Nets not only got the preferable star of the two (as psychologically messed up as Simmons is at least he's not dealing with the incurable ailment of aging) they also got 2 first round draft picks and the third best 3 point shooter of all time (43.9%) on a reasonable contract.
I thought this was a dangerous trade for the 76ers when they made it, with Harden now being all-but worthless (he wouldn't be horrible if he'd be willing to sign a reasonable contact going forward- but that seems highly unlikely) it's close to their worst case scenario.
Hayward is about as available as Kyrie. Gordo is comfy in his gamer chair.To bring it back to Kyrie, his flakiness was one of the core drivers of "needing a third star" in Brooklyn. If he actually played instead of taking "mental breaks", I don't know that they feel the need to give up the farm for Harden. He is truly the destroyer of franchises. If you're the Nets, you have to just deal with the sunk cost and make the most of what you have. Could you S/T Kyrie for Hayward? Trade Simmons for Huerter/Capela? Options aren't great but they need actual guys around KD.
What are they getting for Simmons at this point?Hayward is about as available as Kyrie. Gordo is comfy in his gamer chair.
The Nets have punched that Kyrie/KD ticket, they probably have to live with it. They have some picks from Philly. Curry and Brown are usable, worth keeping. Using Simmons in a trade to round out the roster and riding their BIG2 is not the worst path forward (and much better than the Philly situation)
Vets on mediocre contracts probably? He's a dice roll that a small market might be willing to take.What are they getting for Simmons at this point?
This essentially sounds like a vaccine mandate which the players would never agree on and Kyrie wasn’t being paid for the home games missed. It was the teams decision to ban him from the road games so he should be paid for these as he was eligible to play.I would not be surprised if the owners push for a provision in the new CBA where owners get some salary relief from players who are not playing due to decisions like Kyrie’s (and to some extent Simmons). I think the owners can live with some “player empowerment“ , but not where it extends to guys getting paid full freight and not playing due to their own decisions.
I bet they just take the design and tech and put someone new's name on it... maybe Booker?Wow... Nike is not renewing Kyrie's contract. His shoes are generally one of the better selling shoes in that category.
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My bet would be Ja. Not sure what contract he currently has, but if we are looking at young, marketable players, he would have to top the list at this point in time.I bet they just take the design and tech and put someone new's name on it... maybe Booker?
Ja is a good one, for some reason I thought he was at Adidas with Trae.'My bet would be Ja. Not sure what contract he currently has, but if we are looking at young, marketable players, he would have to top the list at this point in time.
Kyrie was a top shoe guy in the NBA so this is a pretty big deal.
I made a few suggestions BUT with KD/Kyrie get a few good players that play +++defense wouldn't be the worst outcome.What are they getting for Simmons at this point?
They should just sell the soleWow... Nike is not renewing Kyrie's contract. His shoes are generally one of the better selling shoes in that category.
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This is remarkably well-done. Kudos.They should just sell the sole
Was. Maybe pissing away millions and millions will motivate him to try and play 82 games a year. Then again, he seems like the type of person who wouldn't realize he's killing his brand.My bet would be Ja. Not sure what contract he currently has, but if we are looking at young, marketable players, he would have to top the list at this point in time.
Kyrie was a top shoe guy in the NBA so this is a pretty big deal.
Agree. This is like the Colts moving on from Ryan Grigson.Hmm...it would be enjoyable to see Kyrie get dumped by the Nets. At the same time, it has probably benefited the Celtics to see a conference rival get consistently undermined by his schadenfreude.
Fantastic analogy. It was fun when it happened, but long term it was a great move for the Colts.Agree. This is like the Colts moving on from Ryan Grigson.
I know this is more in jest than anything, but I have soured so much on KD as a person that I wouldn’t even want him on the Celtics. He just strikes me as such a miserable prick at this point, for no real reason. He’s an incredible basketball player obviously, but when you factor in his age, his attitude, and the fact that he hasn’t won anything as the lead dog, I want nothing to do with the guy.Setting up nicely for Kevin “if you can’t beat em, join em” Durant demanding a trade to Boston to play alongside Tatum. There’s your superstar return for Jaylen, folks.
To be clear, you’d want nothing to do with Kevin Durant playing alongside Jayson Tatum for the next 3-4 years? If I were Brad I’d give up a body part for him if the CBA would allow for it.I know this is more in jest than anything, but I have soured so much on KD as a person that I wouldn’t even want him on the Celtics. He just strikes me as such a miserable prick at this point, for no real reason. He’s an incredible basketball player obviously, but when you factor in his age, his attitude, and the fact that he hasn’t won anything as the lead dog, I want nothing to do with the guy.
Yes.To be clear, you’d want nothing to do with Kevin Durant playing alongside Jayson Tatum for the next 3-4 years? If I were Brad I’d give up a body part for him if the CBA would allow for it.
That’s fair. I’d prefer a potential dynasty with multiple Titles but to each their own. I see both sides.Yes.
I’d much rather ride this out with Jaylen and Smart over the next 5-10 years.
I can’t see Durant going for it anyways, even assuming he wanted out and the Nets acquiesced, because of the very reason he left GS: he would be coming into a very good team of established stars who the fans love and who have played together for several years, and he would have little chance of becoming ‘the’ guy.That’s fair. I’d prefer a potential dynasty with multiple Titles but to each their own. I see both sides.
This team as currently constituted feels like a potential dynasty to me with two 25 year old wing playing stars to build around. KD is an oft-injured irascible star at this point whom I don’t want to root for at this point (and I was desperate for him to sign here before GSW).That’s fair. I’d prefer a potential dynasty with multiple Titles but to each their own. I see both sides.
How do you fit Kyrie and Durant alongside AD and Lebron? Seems impossible, but I am not good at the NBA cap, and these two goof balls are pretty much attached at the hip, so I'd imagine whatever team acquires one is doing so with the understanding that they would be taking on both of them.The dream, of course, is a sign & trade with the Lakers for Westbrook and future LA picks.
There is no way for LA to acquire both KD and Kyrie. There is just no salary slot matching that makes that at all feasible. I interpreted @nighthob's comment to mean that it would be a dream for Celtics fans to watch the Nets acquire Westbrook and some worthless and/or distant Lakers draft picks for....something, I guess.How do you fit Kyrie and Durant alongside AD and Lebron? Seems impossible, but I am not good at the NBA cap, and these two goof balls are pretty much attached at the hip, so I'd imagine whatever team acquires one is doing so with the understanding that they would be taking on both of them.
too bad they already unloaded Harden, or they really could've gotten the band back together. I'm sure Milwaukee would've beeb willing to part with Ibaka, too.The dream, of course, is a sign & trade with the Lakers for Westbrook and future LA picks.