Feels like they could fuck up a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich.It was tough to do, but the organization looks worse today than they did at noon on Tuesday.
Feels like they could fuck up a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich.It was tough to do, but the organization looks worse today than they did at noon on Tuesday.
The trade deadline in three weeks terrifies me.Well that didn't inspire much confidence
It no longer terrifies me, they fuck up this trade deadline and I'm taking a break from this ownership/leadership and will go root for the CBJ for a while.The trade deadline in three weeks terrifies me.
Someday they'll realize Krejci is playing with junk.
Thank god somebody else sees it. Krejci gets so much underserved shit from the fans and media. He may not be playing his nest, but he's playing with dog shit. Bergeron gets fucking Marchand and Pastrnak. Put Bergeron with the garbage that Krejci gets and see how he performs.
This was interesting so I went to Behindthenet.ca to see if it was true. His top 3 FW 5 on 5 linemates over the last 3 seasons:
2015-2016 - Eriksson (71%), Pastrnak (47%), Beleskey (46%)
2014-2015 - Lucic (67%), lots of D, Marchand (24%), Griffith (23%)
2013-2014 - Iginla (87%), Lucic (87%), all defensemen after that
For this year, I used leftwinglock.com which said for over 55% of the games (maybe more) he has had Backes on his line as well.
I just don't think your conclusion bears itself out. Krejci has had at least 1 top shelf winger on his line each year, then a rotating cast of a 2nd winger who is also usually very good. This is no different than Bergeron/Marchand having a 3rd player rotated through them as a pairing. 2014-2015 was certainly a challenge to find him a 3rd winger.
For comparison, this was Bergeron last year:
2015-2016 - Marchand (83%), Connolly (46% UGH), Stempniak (18%)
And him and Marchand each managed to score 30 and be elite possession players. They're on another level.
Sorry guys - this just isn't true. Krejci is significantly underperforming, with a brutal contract.Well yes and no. This year his linemates have been worse, but while it didn't sum it up like Behind the Net did, it looked to me like his top other wingers are Spooner and Vatrano. Not stiffs, but not up to his elite wingers in the past.
To the Hayes point - Krejci has played with Hayes for about 1% of the season this year. He's a non-factor.
I think Krejci deserves all the criticism he has gotten this year. He's their highest paid forward, the idea that he can only produce a 70% season with elite linemates means he's horribly underperforming and overpaid. That said, he's still 3rd on the team in points (barely).
Exactly. I'm just ready to move on from this tired act. This bullshit has been going on for 40 years.Patriots, Celtics, Red Sox all experienced a rebirth after changing ownership and cleaning house. 2011 didn't magically fix the deep issues with this organization and the goodwill is long spent.
Someday they'll realize Krejci is playing with junk.
Thank god somebody else sees it. Krejci gets so much underserved shit from the fans and media. He may not be playing his nest, but he's playing with dog shit. Bergeron gets fucking Marchand and Pastrnak. Put Bergeron with the garbage that Krejci gets and see how he performs.
Okay, TFP got it. Still. Bergeron is one of the 20-30 best players in the world, he would elevate anyone he played with. Partnering him with Marchand creates a true number one line regardless of who's riding with them. And he plays against the other teams best line 82 nights a year.Sorry guys - this just isn't true. Krejci is significantly underperforming, with a brutal contract.
You'll get no disagreement with me that Krejci has a bad contract.Sorry guys - this just isn't true. Krejci is significantly underperforming, with a brutal contract.
This is the only positive I took out of the whole interview. Love Claude as much as anyone, but if you're rebuilding, you need to let younger players play and make mistakesNeely: Claude was the ultimate professional, we wanted to implement some younger players... there are some times where Claude feels the players aren't ready, where we believe the players were going to make some mistakes and we were willing to live with that. That's one of the areas where Claude and Donnie disagreed a bit
While being told you need to make the playoffs or you're fired...This is the only positive I took out of the whole interview. Love Claude as much as anyone, but if you're rebuilding, you need to let younger players play and make mistakes
I fully agree, I'm a Krejci supporter and his playoff impact speaks for itself. I like the new 2nd line with him, Pasta and Belesky.Someday they'll realize Krejci is playing with junk.
I'm trying to think of a young player that Claude kept on the bench or on 9 this year. He scratched Colin Miller for a couple of games early in the year, but other than that, I'm drawing a blank. When they've been at full health, the usual scratches are JM Liles (veteran), Joe Morrow (young player), and then Jimmy Hayes (veteran) up front. Czarnik was sat for a few games recently, but he seems to have hit a wall.This is the only positive I took out of the whole interview. Love Claude as much as anyone, but if you're rebuilding, you need to let younger players play and make mistakes
I've been outspoken on my dislike of Julien over the years, but I think this is all pretty spot on. What on earth was Julien supposed to do with these completely contradictory demands? "It's ok to lose with youth, but if you do we'll fire you." I haven't been able to watch many games this year (bad luck locating consisten streams) but when I look at the roster and the results, I lay the blame squarely on Sweeney/Neely.It no longer terrifies me, they fuck up this trade deadline and I'm taking a break from this ownership/leadership and will go root for the CBJ for a while.
They think the fans are fucking idiots. We can see right through them. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth and it's annoying. On one hand we want to incorporate young players and they will make mistakes, but we also think we're a playoff team, but not a contender? Are you kidding me?
Claude was in a no-win situation here. He had the TALL task of incorporating the young players and dealing with all of the mistakes, but the mandate to make the playoffs. Given those expectations, I think Claude did a fantastic fucking job.
I'm really tired of this ownership. I think a lot of what has been said about them over the years has been overblown, but given the other ownership groups in town, this one really stands out at the black sheep.
Wow. That kid just killed Don Sweeney. PUT HIM IN A BODY BAG!
I've always defended Claude's development of young players and even this year have mostly stood by that. But as many others have said, he was in an impossible situation, playing for his job and being pressured to develop young players. Colin Miller this year is inexcusable to me, he's their third best defenseman and has been jerked in and out of the lineup.I'm trying to think of a young player that Claude kept on the bench or on 9 this year. He scratched Colin Miller for a couple of games early in the year, but other than that, I'm drawing a blank. When they've been at full health, the usual scratches are JM Liles (veteran), Joe Morrow (young player), and then Jimmy Hayes (veteran) up front. Czarnik was sat for a few games recently, but he seems to have hit a wall.
They're scratching Cehlarik tonight which is amusing coming 2 hours after Neely's comments.
Not surprising in the least to me. Logical step for Montreal to take.Claude Julien appointed head coach of the flipping Montreal Canadiens:
https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/claude-julien-appointed-head-coach-of-the-montreal-canadiens/c-286754858
Still doesn't make it suck any less.Could see this coming from a mile away. Damnit.
HAHAHAHAHAClaude Julien appointed head coach of the flipping Montreal Canadiens:
https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/claude-julien-appointed-head-coach-of-the-montreal-canadiens/c-286754858
This doesn't surprise me at all. I don't blame him. Solid roster and a great way to stick it to the Bruins and management multiple times a year.Claude Julien appointed head coach of the flipping Montreal Canadiens:
https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/claude-julien-appointed-head-coach-of-the-montreal-canadiens/c-286754858
Why would Claude do that? This is as much an FU to the Bruins as it is a good opportunity.I thought Florida should have hired him like 2 nanoseconds after you guys fired him. Their loss and the Habs gain.
Yes - but it may also be them justifying why they feel their play was poor under Julien, setting themselves up for when they're negotiating their next contract.True or not I wish Spooner and Vatrano would keep their mouths shut. If they had a poor relationship with Claude, let their on-ice play show it. Speaking out like this only makes them look petty.
I'm solely going off the tweet(and LR's summary), and more context would be helpful if it exists. I think this is completely appropriate to say. He wasn't throwing out reasons, or making a huge deal of it, he was just acknowledging that he and Claude did not work well together.True or not I wish Spooner and Vatrano would keep their mouths shut. If they had a poor relationship with Claude, let their on-ice play show it. Speaking out like this only makes them look petty.
Yeah, Fred really did badger him quite a bit, so I didn't get the impression he disliked Claude. Once pressured, he basically said Cassidy was giving him opportunities more within his skill set, as he did in the AHL, but that Claude was a great coach who he liked.Yeah listened to that live and Fred basically badgered that out him.
Do you find that strange?Vatrano flat out said he didn't have a close relationship with Claude.