#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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Thank you. I was starting to picture Walt Coleman with a trendy hand bag and matching shoes.
GeorgeCostanza said:
Goodell has two rules, and two rules only:
- Protect the integrity of the shield
- Always accessorize
It's amazing to me that with all the straight up incompetence by people involved with this (Vincent, Goodell, Pash, Wells, the list goes on and on) that Polian is going to be one of the first names I remember as revealing himself as a total gasbag during this fiasco.DrewDawg said:
Between this, all of the nonsense he has said on ESPN about deflated balls and the "we had Brady pegged as a 1st rounder" bullshit is there anyone else that has tarnished their reputation as a brilliant football mind more in one offseason WHILE NOT BEING EMPLOYED BY AN ACTUAL TEAM than Bill Polian?
Between the deflategate histrionics and the fall guy stuff, what Cris Carter has done to his reputation as a former player, Bill Polian has done as a front office guy.
wasn't Polian the guy that was on Sportscenter giving an interview, said somethings against the NFL party line, suddenly left mid interview, came back 15 minutes late saying the exact opposite?GeorgeCostanza said:
Average Reds said:
I don't think so. I think the whole "scandal" merely plays into the same bullshit he's been spewing for 12 years: that the Colts deserved to be better and win more, if not for the shady Patriots. Which is, of course, totally self-serving (just like everything else he says).
He's trying to re-write his legacy as he goes, and that endeavor hinges on tearing down the Patriots.
I heard the Goodell answer to the Brady question last night and it sounds like he says "he was a Hall of Fame player".
Answer starts @ 13:40:
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/roger-goodell-fall-league-meeting-010400661.html
Probably just him being marble mouthed, but a funny slip up either way.
Answer starts @ 13:40:
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/roger-goodell-fall-league-meeting-010400661.html
Probably just him being marble mouthed, but a funny slip up either way.
What's with the broom/hockey stick shaft/squeegee thing? And why is the skeleton holding a 12 football? This is clearly a Pats fan/Goodell hater (not that those are redundant), so what's the football saying? It's definitely not deflated. Odd.tims4wins said:
Papelbon's Poutine said:
I had light saber. I'm guessing at a fair amount of LSD in this person's past.
Edit to mention I laughed loudly at S15B113's Exponent line.
It's a bike tire pump I believe. Probably couldn't find a ball pump in the garage to have it make more sense.
I think it's a stand up air pump, upside down. The top part near the shoulder is the part you put on the ground and stand on to get leverage for the pumping, and the round thing near his tie is the air pressure reader.
But it looks like it's been doctored up somehow because it doesn't look like a normal pump.
But it looks like it's been doctored up somehow because it doesn't look like a normal pump.
Covered. The hose from the pump seems to wrap around his neck though. Nice touch, that.
I saw it as a badly done copy of a bicycle pump. Not sure why they didn't just put buy one to put in versus making a mock up of it.Saints Rest said:
Almost all of the supposed "witches" were hanged, actually. Giles Corey was the only one pressed to death, because he refused to plead either guilty or innocent and thus could not have a trial.Devizier said:
Tire pump. I see that now. That explains the black parts. But what's with the white part with the lettering?
Saints Rest said:
The main shaft of the pump, probably aluminum. It's a big stand up bicycle pump.
It's in Wayland, right downtown. I pass it every day on the way to work and the guy has other crazy mannequins up there too. For the longest time he had some female blond mannequin with her arms raised in touchdown signal. I think the building it's in front of is actually a chiropractors office.
One time, one of the mannequins was blown into the road and someone called emergency services thinking it was a pedestrian that got hit. Needless to say the commute in that day was not fun.
One time, one of the mannequins was blown into the road and someone called emergency services thinking it was a pedestrian that got hit. Needless to say the commute in that day was not fun.
We know Roger doesn't believe in Science so maybe they are insinuating that he built this fire himself and tied himself to a pole to self immolate.Al Zarilla said:
This display has levels
At any rate, your original point that there was no burning at the stake stands. That's some old-school European shit right there.Devizier said:
Running scared.
I'm sure they'd let the blimp fly if they thought their team was any good this year.
http://wishtv.com/2015/10/09/colts-ask-company-not-to-fly-brady-taunting-blimp/
I'm sure they'd let the blimp fly if they thought their team was any good this year.
http://wishtv.com/2015/10/09/colts-ask-company-not-to-fly-brady-taunting-blimp/
This point needs to be made more often.drleather2001 said:
When most of ESPN's "analysts" speak (and really most of the rest of the media who hate dealing with BB as well) the subtext of everything they say is 'yeah, they win a lot but we all know they cheated so, it doesn't count as much.' Their craven attempt at rewriting legacy, whether it be Polian or TJ and especially someone like Kravitz, is as obvious as a Goodell lie. Plus, in their minds and their attempt to sway public opinion, the more you tear down the Pats the better it makes them look in comparison. I'd say most ESPN viewers and general sports fans agree with this assessment and have put a whole bunch of asterisks next to every Pats trophy.
Hey, guys, I think we all know that there are only two teams that threaten the integrity of the game – the Patriots and whoever Gregg Williams is coaching:
@ProFootballTalk: Rob Johnson: Gregg Williams told me he had a training camp spy http://t.co/Ymi9BoGcCw
@ProFootballTalk: Rob Johnson: Gregg Williams told me he had a training camp spy http://t.co/Ymi9BoGcCw
Enjoyable read.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tom-brady-makes-mockery-of-deflate-gate-claims--this-time-with-his-on-field-brilliance-032756207.html
And I like that it was written by someone outside of NE.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tom-brady-makes-mockery-of-deflate-gate-claims--this-time-with-his-on-field-brilliance-032756207.html
And I like that it was written by someone outside of NE.
I'm hoping during the run up to the Colts game that at least some the narrative has at least begun to turn to 'Hey, er, I guess you guys might just be pretty good after all... Sorry?'
Michael Hurley produced another enjoyable read yesterday in the context of Colts Week:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/10/12/hurley-colts-deflategate-launching-complaint-has-never-once-made-any-sense/
The gist is that it never made sense for the Colts to be suspicious of the Pats' balls during the regular season game in Indy last year because Colts personnel were the ones in charge of the balls.
His summary at the end of the article is as follows:
Hurley doesn't deal with what I assume is the unstated premise: That the Pats found a way to doctor the balls along the sidelines or through some other nefarious means. Not that anyone should think that explanation is reasonable in any way. But for the Colts' concerns to have even the slightest of merit, I assume you would have to believe that.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/10/12/hurley-colts-deflategate-launching-complaint-has-never-once-made-any-sense/
The gist is that it never made sense for the Colts to be suspicious of the Pats' balls during the regular season game in Indy last year because Colts personnel were the ones in charge of the balls.
His summary at the end of the article is as follows:
Hurley doesn't deal with what I assume is the unstated premise: That the Pats found a way to doctor the balls along the sidelines or through some other nefarious means. Not that anyone should think that explanation is reasonable in any way. But for the Colts' concerns to have even the slightest of merit, I assume you would have to believe that.
TheoShmeo said:
This isn't exactly an original thought though, people have been pointing that out since DFG took off.
JohnnyK said:
That's true but I heard someone bring the story up as part of his indictment of the Patriots just a few weeks ago.
Reading that article made me realize that, personally, I am totally over it. It took a long time but it is hard to get all the way through a Deflategate article at this point. Every aspect has been discussed ad nauseum and there are no new points to be made.
True enough. I made it through because Michael Hurley was one of the few rational voices throughout DG and the Colts are on deck. But yeah, there is nothing really new under the sun at this point.tims4wins said:
TheoShmeo said:
Except for the whole middle part that accuses the Pats of frequently getting away with illegal offensive contact, including on Edelman's TD Sunday.
"Thus far, officials have called some, but far from the number that appear to be happening."
EDIT: Sorry, did not realize there's a whole thread on this already. I didn't make the connection with the title of "Ay, There's the Rub"
Fair enough.loshjott said:
Though another example of "whoa, the big bad Patriots are exploiting the rules again" is somewhat amusing, albeit from a different perspective than the rest of the article.
I was over it till I saw a mock draft earlier in the week. Guess who we picked in the first round. This kid forfeit. Not sure where he plays, but I don't think he's going to have a big impact on the field.tims4wins said:
Marciano490 said:
Yeah, it sucks, but given how public perception has shifted over the last couple months, I think it may actually be enjoyable to see how the networks handle talking about it. Instead of the "just punishment" narrative, I think we are going to hear a lot of "remind me again why were these picks taken away when there was no proof of anything?"
Jinhocho said:
Note how the drumbeat on this one has gone quiet — for the time being — since the Pats have had only one fumble in last two games, and that was the weird hit on Brady while he was in throwing motion that probably should have been ruled an incomplete pass.
Don't listen to the Oct 9 episode of Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk podcast. This time, Neil isn't leading the charge - instead it's the "expert" panel he brought together and enabled.
* The whole discussion is based on the false premise that the balls were a full 2psi below.
* Corey Booker, Senator, former college football player
- Huge advantage for gripping/throwing the ball and for catching (he was a receiver)
- Advantage not important because "integrity of the game"
- Otherwise, on other topics, seemed to be in the 90th percentile of congressional intelligence. Promoted science and data-driven decision making.
* Dr. Anissa Ramirez, "science evangelist" (whatever the fuck that is, but appears to mean "fails at logic")
- Acknowledged Ideal Gas Law but said that it couldn't account for entire difference - "Morher Nature is off the hook!"
- Acknowledged it was raining when convenient (they'd cheat to ensure a better grip on the ball), but failed to say anything about how the precipitation would further decrease air pressure.
- Her nail in the coffin proof that they cheated? The test performed in the Wells Report that showed the balls could be deflated in the bathroom on under two minutes. Someone needs to teach her the difference between "could" and "definitely did".
* NDT
- Never really weighed in with an opinion. More traffic cop.
- As a scientist, didn't introduce any critical thinking around instrument precision, sample size, etc.
* Crowd was rowdily cheering on the panel (at the Apollo, NY audience)
Oh, and the show's resident "comedian", as always, interrupted any time a scientist was in the middle of making an interesting point. This guy's never said a funny thing in his life. NDT is awesome when he's trying to be serious and educational, but awful when he's trying to be cool and funny. I'm going to delete the podcast now. It's really disappointing that the show sucks, and that assessment has nothing to do with DFG.
* The whole discussion is based on the false premise that the balls were a full 2psi below.
* Corey Booker, Senator, former college football player
- Huge advantage for gripping/throwing the ball and for catching (he was a receiver)
- Advantage not important because "integrity of the game"
- Otherwise, on other topics, seemed to be in the 90th percentile of congressional intelligence. Promoted science and data-driven decision making.
* Dr. Anissa Ramirez, "science evangelist" (whatever the fuck that is, but appears to mean "fails at logic")
- Acknowledged Ideal Gas Law but said that it couldn't account for entire difference - "Morher Nature is off the hook!"
- Acknowledged it was raining when convenient (they'd cheat to ensure a better grip on the ball), but failed to say anything about how the precipitation would further decrease air pressure.
- Her nail in the coffin proof that they cheated? The test performed in the Wells Report that showed the balls could be deflated in the bathroom on under two minutes. Someone needs to teach her the difference between "could" and "definitely did".
* NDT
- Never really weighed in with an opinion. More traffic cop.
- As a scientist, didn't introduce any critical thinking around instrument precision, sample size, etc.
* Crowd was rowdily cheering on the panel (at the Apollo, NY audience)
Oh, and the show's resident "comedian", as always, interrupted any time a scientist was in the middle of making an interesting point. This guy's never said a funny thing in his life. NDT is awesome when he's trying to be serious and educational, but awful when he's trying to be cool and funny. I'm going to delete the podcast now. It's really disappointing that the show sucks, and that assessment has nothing to do with DFG.
