Ohio State WR Chris Olave just ran a 4.26 40 at the Combine. Tied for third fastest ever behind Ross and Chris Johnson.
This scares the crap out of meI just saw Burks run. 1) he would have been faster but his form sucked, and 2) a 4.5 is really good at 225 pounds. Trust the tape. He’s basically a 4.45 guy at his weight.
The only thing Williams does is run really fast, or at least used to do. He is the biggest risk in this draft by far because he is still likely to be drafted due to his 2021 breakout season but that was his only productive season of his career, he sat for 3yrs in OSU and there has to be a reason why. Even without the ACL injury which will almost assure he misses critical rookie camp for a raw WR he would have been a big project. His ceiling is probably DeSean Jackson floor Mecole Hardman. If he was there in the 4th sure take a shot but he will be greatly overdrafted in the late 2nd early 3rd. I'd much rather take a shot on Pickens who will be drafted in a similar range but has already mostly recovered from his ACL injury. Not as fast but better at everything else a WR needs to do.The only WR I want in the 1st is MAYBE Williams. Otherwise I'm happy waiting.
Really I hope a bunch go early and we get to snag a guy like Davis or some other front 7 stud
Extremely raw prospect, but like you said he's the freakiest of the athletic freaks. I wouldn't mind them double dipping with somebody like Wan'Dale Robinson in the 2nd and Watson in the 3rd or 4th.I’ll also throw my name into the “What’s the deal with Christian Watson” pile. Haven’t seen him play at all, but got some senior bowl hype and tested ridiculously well. Anything here, or all noise?
yeah... Watson isn't getting past the 2nd, word is he might go late 1st.Extremely raw prospect, but like you said he's the freakiest of the athletic freaks. I wouldn't mind them double dipping with somebody like Wan'Dale Robinson in the 2nd and Watson in the 3rd or 4th.
11' tall?@SMU_Sox
How is this dude 337 pounds?
View: https://twitter.com/Jordan_Reid/status/1499387138433028099
I can't see a scenario where he touches the 1st round. He certainly could go later on Day 2.yeah... Watson isn't getting past the 2nd, word is he might go late 1st.
I think a lot of these guys look fast on tape but it was knowing how fast exactly are they. The 40 doesn't tell us how fast they are playing, but for the guys where you can see they can get vertical and fast it helps give you a clue to their potential there. The TEs all tested above average too. It makes you think, right? We know these guys are getting better at combine prep but these results were stunning.@SMU_Sox with all these absurd 40 times should they almost be taken with a grain of salt? Seems like the track may have played a factor, don't recall seeing this many WRs greatly exceed the expected 40 times in a long time. This class is fast but don't think they are this fast so either the track really helped or everyone got really good at running in a straight line. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Of the Notre Dame players coming out this year the one I want the Patriots to look at is Kevin Austin. Per SI:We apparently met with Kyren Williams.
He then ran a 4.7 40 at 5'9"..... not a lot of guys that size run that slow, and basically none of them made it in the NFL. N
Now some of that may be that anyone who thinks he's gonna run that slow just doesn't run, which is probably what Williams should have done.
He had trouble getting his shit together at Notre Dame, but the QB situation for the Irish was a bit choppy the last year and the WR coaching has left a lot to be desired. I would not mind a roll of the dice on a 6'2 200 lb WR with his speed and quickness.40 Time: 4.43 seconds
Vertical Jump: 39”
Broad Jump: 11’
3 Cone Drill: 6.71 seconds
Short Shuttle: 4.15 seconds
Overall, Austin tied for 9th in the 40-yard dash, his vertical jump tied for 3rd, his shuttle time tied for 2nd and his 3-Cone time ranked 1st, and there wasn't anyone close. The next closest time was 6.98. For context, the 15th best 3-Cone yesterday was closer to the 2nd best time than the 2nd best time was to Austin.
Someone had an interesting piece on 3 cones, basically the numbers have been terrible the last few years because they moved it to the very end and so most of the top guys just don't even do it. Like this year, Watson, Olave, Wilson, Pickens, all skipped it.Of the Notre Dame players coming out this year the one I want the Patriots to look at is Kevin Austin. Per SI:
He had trouble getting his shit together at Notre Dame, but the QB situation for the Irish was a bit choppy the last year and the WR coaching has left a lot to be desired. I would not mind a roll of the dice on a 6'2 200 lb WR with his speed and quickness.
I'd be surprised, Bill has generally seemed to put a lot of emphasis on agility, His 3 cone in partcular would be the worst of any WR Bill drafted (except Slater, but he wasn't drafted to play WR)I'm no draft expert, just a Boise State fan.
But, man, after his week at the senior bowl and with today's combine numbers -- and his stellar career in Boise -- you guys should really be looking at Khalil Shakir.
Him next to Barmore would be pretty great to see.
Spitballing... maybe the first 10m split for explosion?I'm a Davis fan but does the 40 correlate to DT success at all? I'd think that is one of the least meaningful tests for a pure DT. Bench, vertical, broad all seem to translate more to DT than 40. If anything that 40 just prob put him out of reach for NE.
Maybe Chenal just gets assumed to be slow because he’s a big white guy? Granted, it’s the NFL combine scouting report, but there’s a direct line the he “lacks speed and burst” and I feel like I’ve read other pre-draft stuff that left me not expecting a 4.5 40 time.Respectfully Chenal and Beavers were on Bruce Feldman’s Freaks list. Chenal as an overall freak including his speed and Beavers for his power. Beavers CoD drills are something that contradicts his tape. For a high cut guy that 3-cone is not only surprising but excellent.
Yes and no.At the end of the Day these guys get paid to actually Play Football. Tape (assuming in enough quantity and against high caliber competition) seems way more reliable then Combine testing.
Granted in the case of guys from NDState the combine takes on more weight. But its just that. A portion of the puzzle.
Besides isnt a tenth of a second like 1 yard at a 40 yard "race". I would much rather have 4.48 guy who runs great routes and beats the 4.33 CB by 3 yards then a guy who runs a 4.31 and runs shitty routes. Especially with an accurate QB....with a less then laser arm....but that a different subject.
I heard Renner of PFF on Pats podcast with Phil Perry saying he could see the Pats having to pull the trigger on Chanel at 21 because he probably wont last until 54.LB Leo Chenal numbers from his Pro Day today: 6.84s 3-cone, 3.94s short shuttle with 34 bench reps
Ummm..... I think we're gonna need to draft him in Round 2 if the Pats hope to get him. Those are eye-popping numbers for a middle linebacker.
Well they probably should move down to get him and pick up extra picks as they have so many holes they have to fill.I heard Renner of PFF on Pats podcast with Phil Perry saying he could see the Pats having to pull the trigger on Chanel at 21 because he probably wont last until 54.
I would love this scenarioWell they probably should move down to get him and pick up extra picks as they have so many holes they have to fill.
Yes, one of his mocks in mid-February had the Pats grabbing Chenal at 21. PFF is a big fan. Chenal was #37 on their big board before the combine and pro day.I heard Renner of PFF on Pats podcast with Phil Perry saying he could see the Pats having to pull the trigger on Chanel at 21 because he probably wont last until 54.
Chenal isn’t for everyone’s scheme, but any of Belichick’s disciples will love the skill set he brings to the table. The Wisconsin product has the block-beating ability and football IQ to seamlessly replace Dont’a Hightower. He recorded the highest run-defense grade and second-highest pass-rushing grade among linebackers in college football last year.
Confirmed torn Achilles. Damn.View: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1504858329377607712
Non-contact leg injury for Ojabo during his pro-day
Name | Position | Grade | |
1 |
Aidan Hutchinson - Michigan 8.25 | Edge | 8.25 |
2 |
Derek Stingley Jr. - LSU 8.25 | CB | 8.25 |
3 |
Kyle Hamilton - ND 8.25 | S | 8.25 |
4 |
Drake London - USC 8.25 | WR | 8.25 |
5 |
Sauce Gardner - Cincinnati 8.0 | CB | 8.0 |
6 |
Jordan Davis - UGA 8.0 | IDL | 8.0 |
7 |
Travon Walker - UGA 7.75 | Edge | 7.75 |
8 |
Ikem Ekwonu - NC State 7.75 | OT | 7.75 |
9 |
Jermaine Johnson - FSU 7.99 | Edge | 7.99 |
10 |
Kayvon Thibodeaux - Oregon 7.75 | Edge | 7.75 |
11 |
Evan Neal - Bama 7.99 | OT | 7.99 |
12 |
Chris Olave - Ohio State 7.99 | WR | 7.99 |
13 |
Andrew Booth - Clemson 7.99 | CB | 7.99 |
14 |
Garrett Wilson - Ohio State 7.75 | WR | 7.75 |
15 |
David Ojabo - Michigan 7.75 | Edge | 7.75 |
16 |
Zion Johnson - BC 7.99 | IOL | 7.99 |
17 |
Charles Cross - Miss State 7.99 | OT | 7.99 |
18 |
Trevor Penning - Northern Iowa 7.75 | OT | 7.75 |
19 |
George Karlaftis - Purdue 7.99 | Edge | 7.99 |
20 |
Devin Lloyd - Utah 7.99 | ILB | 7.99 |
21 |
Daxton Hill - Michigan - 7.99 | S | 7.99 |
22 |
Travis Jones - Uconn 7.99 | IDL | 7.99 |
23 |
Lewis Cine - UGA - 7.99 | S | 7.99 |
24 |
Jameson Williams - Bama 7.99 | WR | 7.99 |
25 |
Leo Chenal - Wisconsin 7.75 | ILB | 7.75 |
26 |
Nakobe Dean - UGA 7.99 | ILB | 7.99 |
27 |
Kenyon Green - TAMU 7.99 | IOL | 7.99 |
28 |
Boye Mafe - Minnesota 7.75 | Edge | 7.75 |
29 |
Jalen Pitre - Baylor - 7.75 | S | 7.75 |
30 |
Trent McDuffie - Washington 7.5 | CB | 7.5 |
31 |
Logan Hall - Houston 7.5 | Edge | 7.5 |
32 |
Tyler Linderbaum - Iowa 7.5 | IOL | 7.5 |
33 |
Devonte Wyatt - UGA 7.5 | IDL | 7.5 |
34 |
Bernhard Raimann - Central Mich 7.5 | OT | 7.5 |
35 |
George Pickens - UGA 7.5 | WR | 7.5 |
36 |
Chad Muma - Wyoming 7.5 | ILB | 7.5 |
37 |
Damone Clark - LSU 7.5 | ILB | 7.5 |
38 |
Jahan Dotson - PSU 7.5 | WR | 7.5 |
39 |
Jaquan Brisker - PSU 7.5 | S | 7.5 |
40 |
Daniel Faalele - Minnesota 7.5 | OT | 7.5 |
41 |
Treylon Burks - Arkansas 7.5 | WR | 7.5 |
42 |
Kaiir Elam - Florida 7.25 | CB | 7.25 |
43 |
Arnold Ebiketie - PSU 7.25 | Edge | 7.25 |
44 |
Sean Rhyan - UCLA 7.25 | IOL | 7.25 |
45 |
Dylan Parham - Memphis 7.25 | IOL | 7.25 |
46 |
Roger McCreary - Auburn 7.25 | CB | 7.25 |
47 |
Brian Asamoah - Oklahoma 7.25 | ILB | 7.25 |
48 |
Nik Bonitto - Oklahoma 7.0 | Edge | 7.0 |
49 |
Channing Tindall - UGA 7.0 | ILB | 7.0 |
50 |
Max Mitchell - Louisiana 7.0 | OT | 7.0 |
51 |
Marquis Hayes - Oklahoma 7.0 | IOL | 7.0 |
52 |
Darrian Beavers - Cin 7.0 | ILB | 7.0 |
53 |
John Metchie - Bama 7.0 | WR | 7.0 |
54 |
Quay Walker - UGA 6.99 | ILB | 6.99 |
55 |
Kyler Gordon - Washington 6.99 | CB | 6.99 |
56 |
Jalyn Armour-Davis - Alabama 6.99 | CB | 6.99 |
57 |
DeMarvin Leal - TAMU 6.99 | IDL | 6.99 |
58 |
Phidarian Mathis - Bama 6.99 | IDL | 6.99 |
59 |
Darian - Kinnard - Kentucky 6.99 | IOL | 6.99 |
60 |
Christian Watson - NDSU 6.99 | WR | 6.99 |
61 |
Skyy Moore - Western Michigan 6.99 | WR | 6.99 |
62 |
Alontae Taylor - Tennessee 6.75 | CB | 6.75 |
63 |
Kingsley Enagbare - South Carolina 6.75 | Edge | 6.75 |
64 |
Abraham Lucas - Wash State 6.75 | OT | 6.75 |
65 |
Cole Strange - Chattanooga 6.75 | IOL | 6.75 |
66 |
Luke Goedeke - Central Mich 6.75 | IOL | 6.75 |
67 |
Rasheed Walker - PSU 6.75 | OT | 6.75 |
68 |
Christian Harris - Bama 6.75 | ILB | 6.75 |
69 |
Cameron Thomas - San Diego State 6.75 | Edge | 6.75 |
70 |
Jalen Tolbert - South Alabama 6.75 | WR | 6.75 |
71 |
Kerby Joseph - Illinois 6.75 | S | 6.75 |
72 |
Jamaree Salyer - UGA 6.5 | IOL | 6.5 |
73 |
Troy Andersen - Montana State 6.5 | ILB | 6.5 |
74 |
Ed Ingram - LSU 6.5 | IOL | 6.5 |
75 |
Brandon Smith - PSU 6.5 | ILB | 6.5 |
76 |
Lecitus Smith - Virginia Tech 6.5 | IOL | 6.5 |
77 |
Perrion Winfrey - Oklahoma 6.5 | IDL | 6.5 |
78 |
Coby Bryant - Cincinnati 6.5 | CB | 6.5 |
79 |
Nicholas Petit-Frere - Ohio State 6.5 | OT | 6.5 |
80 |
Verone McKinley III - Oregon 6.5 | S | 6.5 |
81 |
Nick Cross - Maryland - 6.5 | S | 6.5 |
82 |
Tycen Anderson - Toledo - 6.5 | S | 6.5 |
83 |
David Bell - Purdue 6.5 | WR | 6.5 |
84 |
Wan'Dale Robinson - Kentucky 6.5 | WR | 6.5 |
85 |
Kyle Philips - UCLA 6.5 | WR | 6.5 |
86 |
Justyn Ross - Clemson 6.49 | WR | 6.49 |
87 |
Alec Pierce - Cincinnati 6.49 | WR | 6.49 |
88 |
Tariq Woolen - Texas San Antonio 6.49 | CB | 6.49 |
89 |
Akayleb Evans - Missouri 6.49 | CB | 6.49 |
90 |
Neil Farrell - LSU 6.49 | IDL | 6.49 |
91 |
Drake Jackson - USC 6.49 | Edge | 6.49 |
92 |
Marcus Jones - Houston 6.49 | CB | 6.49 |
93 |
Kellen Diesch - Arizona State 6.49 | OT | 6.49 |
94 |
Myjai Sanders - Cin 6.49 | Edge | 6.49 |
95 |
Isaiah Thomas - Oklahoma 6.49 | Edge | 6.49 |
96 |
John Ridgeway - Arkansas 6.49 | IDL | 6.49 |
97 |
Bryan Cook - Cin - 6.49 | S | 6.49 |
98 |
Khalil Shakir - Boise State 6.49 | WR | 6.49 |
99 |
JT Woods - Baylor 6.49 | S | 6.49 |
100 |
Danny Gray - SMU 6.49 | WR | 6.49 |
101 |
Joshua Jobe - Alabama 6.49 | CB | 6.49 |
102 |
Martin Emerson - Mississippi State 6.25 | CB | 6.25 |
103 |
Cade Mays - Tennessee 6.25 | IOL | 6.25 |
104 |
Vincent Gray - Michigan 6.25 | CB | 6.25 |
105 |
Romeo Doubs - Nevada 6.25 | WR | 6.25 |
106 |
Erik Ezukanma - Texas Tech 6.25 | WR | 6.25 |
107 |
Zakoby McClain - Auburn 6.25 | ILB | 6.25 |
108 |
Mario Goodrich - Clemson 6.0 | CB | 6.0 |
109 |
Nick Zakelj - Fordham 6.0 | IOL | 6.0 |
110 |
Leon O'Neal Jr. - TAMU 6.0 | S | 6.0 |
111 |
Tariq Castro-Fields - PSU 6.0 | CB | 6.0 |
112 |
Derion Kendrick - UGA 5.99 | CB | 5.99 |
113 |
Thayer Munford - Ohio State 5.99 | IOL | 5.99 |
114 |
Otito Ogbonnia - UCLA 5.99 | IDL | 5.99 |
115 |
Smoke Monday - Auburn 5.99 | S | 5.99 |
116 |
Jesse Luketa - PSU 5.99 | Edge | 5.99 |
117 |
Haskell Garrett - Ohio State 5.99 | IDL | 5.99 |
118 |
Matt Waletzko - NDU 5.75 | OT | 5.75 |
119 |
Reggie Roberson - SMU 5.5 | WR | 5.5 |
120 |
Cam Taylor-Britt - Nebraska 5.49 | CB | 5.49 |
121 |
Chris Paul - Tulsa 5.49 | IOL | 5.49 |
122 |
Yusuf Corker - Kentucky 5.49 | S | 5.49 |
123 |
Mykael Wright - Oregon 5.0 | CB | 5.0 |
124 |
Dane Belton - Iowa 5.0 | S | 5.0 |
125 |
Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa - Notre Dame 4.99 | IDL | 4.99 |
126 |
Kalon Barnes - Baylor 4.99 | CB | 4.99 |
127 |
Jaylen Watson - Washington State 4.75 | CB | 4.75 |