Ball is spotted in between marks all the time, even when a first down is made.
Week 2 - Miami: Let’s Groove Tonight
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Waddle has 86 yards and Hill had 40. No one else had more than 40. Explain.
Or some of us just are realists? Not in the neighborhood? Do you have a different angle of the making it seem like it was close?
Honestly I'm pretty sure Strange was short, but it does annoy me anyway because they didn't overturn the one on the challenge earlier that seemed at least as clear of a bad spot, and with replay the whole point is to make it less subjective and apply the same standard. Just giving refs more ways to screw up isn't what it's supposed to be for.
Idk. The reason they get hung up on these is that the angles can get very distorting without nearby field markings. From the angle shown, he was definitely short, but who knows if the camera was actually 90 degrees from the play. I'm sure we would have found another way to not score, but it's a shitty way for the game to end.
I don't get this. Did the prevoius first down land the ball directly on the 39 yard line?
But every first down doesn’t always start on a hash mark, does it? So wouldn’t this mean sometimes you have to get slightly more or less than 10 yards for the next first down?
Betcha it isn’t. Nobody gives a shit on a 30 yard play if the ball is spotted a half yard short. That ball is going on a line 1000% of the time.
Yeah, Lowe a half-step closer to Strange and he shoves him well over the line to gain.
Ok, so then what happens when on 1st and 10 a team gets 10.5 yards? Pretty sure they don't just call it 10 or 11 and put the ball on one of the hash marks
What a fucking bullshit reversal. What a fucking joke the NFL is. And I'm supposed to pay YouTube $400.00 to watch this shit? Fuck that. Fucking joke.
Defense was good. Hill was a non-factor and let's just say I love Gonzalez. Some mistakes, but Miami has a good offense.
Offense stinks, and the blame pie has enough slices for everyone - the OL, Mac, receivers
Offense stinks, and the blame pie has enough slices for everyone - the OL, Mac, receivers
The Patriots are probably the most objectively boring team in the NFL. The Titans and Bears are up there but Fields is entertaining in a train wreck sort of way.
I am convinced that many on here never watched the Pats who won games they didn’t “deserve” to win because they made fewer mistakes. This was one of those games.
I thought the best point Terry brought up was “it’s in space.” I don’t feel confident I could make a decision either way from the camera angle as I’m not confident it’s showing me where the ball is in relation to the imaginary line connecting the hash marks. I would have stuck with whatever the call was on the field. FWIW, I thought it was short live.
I mean, it definitely makes sense when you see the same ref mark the ball and immediately motion that it's a first down without really looking too carefully at the first down marker.
But man is it crazy.
The defense is generally pretty exciting, though today they ran a gameplan that was not. The offense is boring af.
Dude, maybe settle down a bit on the tone policing after yet another frustrating loss. The tenor of the thread isn't even that negative considering how the end of the game unfolded.
Agreed that they were bad spots. The only real difference was whether you could see the ball.
The "irrefutable evidence" standard is weirdly subjective sometimes. If someone says they're 6 feet tall but you can easily see with your naked eye from their surroundings that they are 5' 6" at most, but they aren't standing next to a measuring tape so you can't conclusively prove it, is that sufficient evidence? I doubt the rulebook answers that.
They are him, they are every player and team who aren't good enough to beat you unless its their best day. However they will always push you and always keep coming.
This team ends up dying a natural death in most games versus teams stomping all over them.
Ironically, you can kind of see the next couple of weeks playing out like that 2001 season did after being 0-2. Beat NY, lose to Dallas, beat the Saints and Raiders. 3-3.
1000%
Potentially, the biggest takeaway from this loss may be whether or not perhaps the vast majority of us actually know how spotting the ball works.
All eyes on @CFB_Rules …
Amazing. “Take out the play that the dolphins are designed to create and then what are those numbers.”
I thought the makeshift O line was great last week against a superior defensive line. Strange and Onwenu come back and they are horrific. I guess the most important player is Trent Brown. Scary.
Juju does look crispy out there. Although he did have the good play on Mac's scramble before the Rham TD. Just no burst.
Disagree. The punt block was fun. The pick was impressive. The ending was weird. They made it close.
They’re not a good team at all but all their games seem to have weird shit happen, which is entertaining in a way.
Agree to disagree. This team is a good faith competitive also-ran. Sometimes that's what life deals you as a fan.
Settle down? I’m speaking about those that seem to forget how the pats won during their run. They didn’t dominate teams.
Kordell Stewart claiming the better team didn’t win Pats WR falling out of bounds before fumbling against Bills.
My point is that the reactions are just goofy sometimes.
I wouldn't call them boring. The offense is objectively better; just hard to do anything when the 5 guys in front are ticket takers.
Is it super obvious? One goes 31/42 for 231 and the other goes for 21/30. So a lot better? I guess Tua also ran for 4 yards... which ended up being 1 because of taking a knee.
FWIW, he has always held a special fondness for Russ Courtnall. The guy who “shouldn’t” be any good, but, like, is.