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USMNT: Hold My Beer

Discussion in 'Breakfast with Gazza (with Sachmoneious Bullcrap)' started by Titans Bastard, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. teddykgb

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    Only been able to watch the 2nd half but it has been enjoyable. Seems like a fair amount of structure in the system, a lot of passing triangles and particularly passes between the lines. Easily could have conceded a few as well, there's a bit of openness there but a pretty good first impression. I've been surprised at how good Bradley has looked, although this hasn't been the hardest test. Played a lot like a 4-2-2-2 with the ball
     
  2. Titans Bastard

    Titans Bastard has sunil gulati in his sights Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Bradley was very good tonight. For me, though, the biggest issue with Bradley is his relative lack of quickness that makes him too soft a DM against tough teams. This weak Panama team was never going to come close to exposing him in that way.

    Adams and McKennie will cover up some of Bradley's sins, though.

    Offensively, I thought the US looked like some sort of weird 3-4-3, with the RB Lima tucking into the midfield alongside Bradley, which freed up the other two CMs to seize more attacking roles. It's an interesting concept against weaker, bunkering CONCACAF opposition. I'm not sure how well that will work against top teams; I'd worry that our flanks would be badly exposed to counterattacks. Having a specific strategy for CONCACAF teams that are dug in is useful by itself, though.

    Next weekend is Costa Rica, which should be a somewhat tougher test even if it's not their A team either.
     
  3. DrewDawg

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    Only caught last 10 minutes and they scored twice, so they look fucking awesome to me.

    I loved that play by Lima though leading to the 2nd goal.
     
  4. 67YAZ

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    Just had an image of Yedlin playing this role in a Hex match and it made me shudder. Yedlin has the wheels for it, but not the skills or awareness. I’d be ok never seeing this experiment again.
     
  5. Titans Bastard

    Titans Bastard has sunil gulati in his sights Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It's a terrible fit for Yedlin, but what if Yedlin is the normal fullback and you find someone else to perform the fullback/CM role, but on the left side?

    If it works tactically for the whole team, it also helps solve the LB problem. I'm not at all sold that this tactical wrinkle will be a key part of the scheme going forward, but there are possibilities to explore.
     
  6. Titans Bastard

    Titans Bastard has sunil gulati in his sights Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It won't be easy to watch CONCACAF Nations League games this fall.

     
  7. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

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    Hey just trying to get viewership down into 4 figures to match the in person attendance
     
  8. Titans Bastard

    Titans Bastard has sunil gulati in his sights Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Unfortunately, it's CONCACAF product to sell, so the USSF doesn't have any influence on who carries the rights.
     
  9. Jimy Hendrix

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    Is this separate from the USMNT deals that actual watchable cable networks have?

    Not being able to see eg. Honduras vs. Panama would be one thing, not being able to see the national team without a z-list streaming service is another.
     
  10. Titans Bastard

    Titans Bastard has sunil gulati in his sights Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Yes, I think so. Federations can sell the TV rights to friendlies and home WCQ. Like the Gold Cup, Nations League rights are sold by CONCACAF.

    US TV rights for away WCQ are sold by the host federation, so historically there's been weird PPV-only broadcasts. I remember having to schlep to the Banshee for a WCQ at Guatemala in 2012.


    EDIT: or you could (partially) ignore what I'm saying. Group stage games on ESPN, but not the final few games. Still not good.

     
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  11. Jimy Hendrix

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    Holy shit, that's a really expensive streaming service too. Looks like ~$12.50 for their hilarious soccer-specific package which appears to be the Nations League, Coppa Italia & DC United games, or $30/month if you also want to watch whatever else they've cobbled together, which seems to be Euro hoops & hockey, softball, volleyball and a lot of fight sports.

    Viva Univision, I guess.
     
  12. 67YAZ

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    I see what you're saying, but I think that role is so specific and so demanding that it's not readily possible to coach up a player for that role on a national team. If he played it every week for his club, ok. But otherwise, it's playing with fire.

    That said, ok...maybe Adams could fit the bill given his experience at RB and through the middle. But again, I think it's too difficult a role to play well if you're only doing it with the national team. And it would be a waste of Adams abilities at a time when the USMNT desperately needs CMs that defend, transition play, and link up with Pulisic.
     
  13. OilCanShotTupac

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    If that's Robinson I'd be scared. He has the pace but even less football nous than Yedlin (by a lot).
     
  14. Titans Bastard

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    No, it definitely couldn't be Robinson. It would probably have to be Adams, but there are significant tradeoffs in doing so as @67YAZ details in the post above yours. Most likely the hybrid fullback/CM role could be a useful bunker-busting tool to be deployed only in specific situations.

    In the medium term, keep an eye on Atlanta United's George Bello. He only just turned 17, but he's arguably our best prospect of his age cohort...and he's a left back.
     
  15. InstaFace

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    This never would have happened if Chuck Blazer were still alive.
     
  16. Titans Bastard

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    Hah, but it would! Chuck Blazer was a strong believer in his fiduciary duty to Chuck Blazer, so if some shitty streaming service happened to be the highest bidder, no problem-o.
     
  17. InstaFace

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    ESPN would have offered way more kickbacks though. They're no idiots. Mr 10% was always open to increasing that number, and a domestic company has way more ways to make it happen.
     
  18. Titans Bastard

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    USA vs. Costa Rica on tap on Fox right now.

    There are only two changes to the starting XI. Trapp is in for Bradley and Arriola is in for Ebobisse. It remains to be seen if the team will replicate the same shape that was used against Panama offensively and defensively.
     
  19. Titans Bastard

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    0-0 HT. Definitely not as good a performance as last week, which is expected because Costa Rica is better than Panama.

    Costa Rica is pressing high and putting the US under more pressure. The result is that the passing has been much sloppier. US players have been misreading each other's movements, too.

    Whenever Trapp is the DM, other teams always seem to be too comfortable playing up the middle.

    Some of the problems are just quality issues. Baird and Zardes make good runs and consistently get into good spots, but Baird struggles to create separation in 1v1 battles and Zardes' touch is a well-known issue.

    Mihailovic has shown some inventiveness, but he hasn't found the right weight on his bolder passes and he's also been a bit sloppy at times. Roldan has been pretty invisible.

    I don't think Lovitz is up to this level. In both games he's misplayed simple passes in a way that feels like the game moves a bit too fast for him.
     
  20. Jimy Hendrix

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    Lovitz is ahead of Sweat on my “left back who shouldn’t be there” depth chart, but that’s not a great depth chart to be on.
     
  21. Titans Bastard

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    #PrayForGeorgeBello
     
  22. Titans Bastard

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    Lima rattles the post off the half-volley.
     
  23. 67YAZ

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    Looks better the last 10 minutes, consistently finding outlets on the wings to break the press. I mean, this CR press is downright disrespectful...and it’s been working well enough. But I’m glad this squad is facing tactics like this. It should help identify the ones who should stick around for the next camp.
     
  24. Titans Bastard

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    Lletget on for Mihailovic. Djordje drew a ton of fouls, hit a few nice passes, but had some struggles this game.

    This game could use Lletget's ability to dribble and his ability to create space & beat the press on the turn.
     
  25. Titans Bastard

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    Roldan off the same post now. That was very well-hit, and on his left, too.

    US knocking on the door.
     
  26. Titans Bastard

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    Lletget with the breakthrough! Nice assist from Lewis.
     
  27. 67YAZ

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    There it is for Lleget. Glad to see them rewarded for a strong half hour of play. It’s been a great adjustment to focus on attacking down the flanks. When they’ve been able to move the ball with some quickness, they’ve broken through the press.
     
  28. Titans Bastard

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    Lewis looks good. He has been incredibly productive in limited minutes for club and country.
     
  29. Jimy Hendrix

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    Lewis’s ratio of time on field to makin’ Stuff happen is intriguing. I hope he breaks through for NYCFC this year.
     
  30. Titans Bastard

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    2-0, Arriola. Nice flick on the finish to chip the keeper.

    Lletget with the assist. He didn't start either game, but he's been better than Mihailovic and Roldan.
     
  31. Jimy Hendrix

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    I know we’re supposed to hate Arriola for his triple-sins of being in MLS, being present in T&T and being over 22, but he’s still in that bucket of guys who could be Bedoya-esque contributors for the next cycle or two. Lletget as well.
     
  32. Cellar-Door

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    Lletget might be the best right now player in the pool, he's really good, doesn't have the ceiling of the youngsters, but at the moment might be better


    Edit- to clarify and supercharge this take...... he's a better on field player in terms of skill and consistency than the golden boy right now.
     
  33. lostjumper

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    This 2nd half is much better. It's great to have a coach that makes meaningful halftime adjustments!
     
  34. Titans Bastard

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    This January camp was pretty good, especially when measured against the rusty, garbage-quality performances that I've seen from the USMNT each and every year during these friendlies (going back at least to the beginning of Bob Bradley's tenure).

    Lletget did really well in camp. I sure hope LA plays him in the right spot. He's been jerked around too much due to LA's penchant for chasing shiny objects. Given how weak we are among attack-minded midfielders, it's not hard to imagine him as a serious contender for the A team lineup.

    Zimmerman, Long, and Lima all boosted their stock. I expect them to get invitations to the March friendlies.

    Lewis looks like he can be at least a dangerous late-game sub, and maybe more. We have no depth on the wings, so he can seize a big role quickly, especially if he has a good year fo NYCFC.

    Arriola is a throwback to the old-school USMNT, in a good way. I find him very likable. He's not the most skilled player, but he's all heart and hustle and has enough quality to make it work.

    I think Mihailovic has good qualities, but he's not there yet. He's young enough that hoping for improvement isn't unreasonable. A strong candidate for the U23 Olympic qualifying team right now.

    Zardes isn't a good player at the NT level, but I'm taking an optimistic view with him and Baird. They got into dangerous spots and weren't able to capitalize. If the team can get the RW and FW in those sorts of spots, imagine what will happen when Pulisic and Sargent are in the lineup instead.
     
  35. Tangled Up In Red

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    I go to transfermarkt to see about player profiles during transfer windows. Decided to look up Lletget, to see what positional type of player he is. I've not seen anything like this on TM
    If link works correctly, loom to the 'played positions' chart for current season. Bigger circles = more time. But accordingly to this, he's played everything but RB and LB this season. I like that!
     
  36. Titans Bastard

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    Let's check in on the current status of our youth national team managers.

    U23: vacant
    U20: Tab Ramos
    U19: Dave van den Bergh
    U18: vacant
    U17: vacant
    U16: vacant
    U15: vacant
    U14: vacant


    Nice. The CONCACAF U17 championship is in two months. John Hackworth resigned a while ago to take the Louisville City job. The USSF is insisting that all YNT coaches move to Chicago so that everyone will be based out of the USSF HQ. The problem is that YNT jobs are not that prestigious and nobody wants to move their family. As a result, they can't get anyone in. Some of these posts have been empty for the better part of the year.

    Earnie Stewart is the GM and Tab Ramos is the Youth Technical Director, but true oversight of the YNTs is under the joint control of two USSF bureaucrats: Nico Romeijn and Asher Mendelsohn. God knows what they are doing/thinking.

    The women's side is similarly understaffed. I sure hope Dan Flynn's successor can run a tighter ship.
     

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