I would think that they'd hold onto Yorke until making a decision regarding Xander. If he walks in FA next season, Story easily moves to SS and opens the door for Yorke.Is Story for 6 years enough insurance to move Yorke for a pitcher?
I would think that they'd hold onto Yorke until making a decision regarding Xander. If he walks in FA next season, Story easily moves to SS and opens the door for Yorke.Is Story for 6 years enough insurance to move Yorke for a pitcher?
Didn't you just surmise that he was ultimately moving to short or third? Pick a lane.Is Story for 6 years enough insurance to move Yorke for a pitcher?
Too bad he still won't be playing all his games at Fenway.Hell yea. Great signing, solid contract.
I posted this back in December, but Story played through an elbow injury for the first half of the year and hit .237/.311/.394 (77 wRC+) through June 13. He hit .259/.340/.518 (114 wRC+) afterward, including a 132 wRC+ in his last 30 games.
He would have hit 39 home runs last year — a big jump over the 24 he recorded — had he played all his games in Fenway, according to Statcast.
I wouldn’t deal Yorke yet at all. First, we don’t know what X will do. Second, Yorke might be a monster, and if so, you try to find a spot for him.Is Story for 6 years enough insurance to move Yorke for a pitcher?
It’s a terrific signing for sure.Bloom’s patience in the market definitely helped out here. Major bargain compared to the Seaver deal.
Similar to what he did with SchwarberBloom’s patience in the market definitely helped out here. Major bargain compared to the Seager deal.
Absolutely. Yorke and Mayer go nowhere.I wouldn’t deal Yorke yet at all. First, we don’t know what X will do. Second, Yorke might be a monster, and if so, you try to find a spot for him.
That’s fair, but in either event we still have Downs.Didn't you just surmise that he was ultimately moving to short or third? Pick a lane.
unlikely. It seems like a great hedge against Bogaerts leaving after next year, assuming elbow would play at SSIs Story for 6 years enough insurance to move Yorke for a pitcher?
Yorke is 2 years away, and if X stays either X or Yorke himself could try LF.I wouldn’t deal Yorke yet at all. First, we don’t know what X will do. Second, Yorke might be a monster, and if so, you try to find a spot for him.
Are you assuming X is back after the Story signing?Does this free up Yorke?
Right. He might hit even more. Story’s 2021 home runs if all his batted balls were…Too bad he still won't be playing all his games at Fenway.
Whatever his defensive limitations may be, moving Bogaerts to left field in 2022 is a waste of his talents. Like moving Story to second base.In my ideal world, Bloom is saying to Bogaerts now, "We gave story 6/140. We'll tear up your old deal, give you 6/150 and you'll immediately move to left field." I know that's not happening, but a guy can dream.
Agree completely. I think this move basically means this is XB’s last year here. Story moves back to SS next year, and they stop gap 2B until Yorke is ready. And then Mayer as well.I wouldn’t deal Yorke yet at all. First, we don’t know what X will do. Second, Yorke might be a monster, and if so, you try to find a spot for him.
A right handed pull hitter should be very happy at Fenway, but you can't just look at the spray chart and assume everything would be the same. About half of those dots are from Denver, where the ball flies a little farther than at sea level. The gray dots over the wall may drop onto the track on a chilly April day.View attachment 50285
Spray chart for the last three years, overlaid with Fenway. A lot of outs that would be HRs to the pull side, and luckily very few HRs that turn into outs in RF (assuming the wind doesn't play into where these would actually land, which we obviously shouldn't do). Still, seems like a guy who can definitely benefit from playing in Boston, potentially.
One thing to note is that Baltimore changed the dimensions of LF in Camden during the offseason. They moved the wall back 27 feet and raised it in height a bit too. So those BAL projections might be outdated now. Your overall point still stands regardless.Right. He might hit even more. Story’s 2021 home runs if all his batted balls were…
in BAL: 42
in NYY: 48
in TOR: 36
in TB: 33
(in COL: 19)
Per Statcast
I don't think it means anything regarding Bogaerts, because we have no idea how much Story's elbow played into this deal. If there's concern that it won't hold up at SS much longer, then the expectation could be that Story is the long term second baseman.Agree completely. I think this move basically means this is XB’s last year here. Story moves back to SS next year, and they stop gap 2B until Yorke is ready. And then Mayer as well.
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Spray chart for the last three years, overlaid with Fenway. A lot of outs that would be HRs to the pull side, and luckily very few HRs that turn into outs in RF (assuming the wind doesn't play into where these would actually land, which we obviously shouldn't do). Still, seems like a guy who can definitely benefit from playing in Boston, potentially.
Seems like an oxymoronic thing for a guy named Max Power to sayA right handed pull hitter should be very happy at Fenway, but you can't just look at the spray chart and assume everything would be the same. About half of those dots are from Denver, where the ball flies a little farther than at sea level. The gray dots over the wall may drop onto the track on a chilly April day.
That's how it reads to me as well, if Story opts out after four, the Sox can effectively by that option by adding a seventh year. AAV of 23.3M at 6 years and 22.8M at 7years. Assuming Bogaerts is gone, perhaps in the later years of the contract Story moves back to 2B when Mayer is ready unless they groom Mayer to play another position.If I am reading the opt out correctly I don’t hate it. He can opt out after 4, but if the Sox want to keep him they can by tacking on a 7th year at 20 million.
Is that right?
Good point, forgot about that.One thing to note is that Baltimore changed the dimensions of LF in Camden during the offseason. They moved the wall back 27 feet and raised it in height a bit too. So those BAL projections might be outdated now. Your overall point still stands regardless.
It concerns be that no other team thought it sensible to beat this contract. I would not have rolled the dice on Story liked this. I really hope it works out.Shocked we got him at this price tbh. I thought for sure HOU or MFY were going to overpay and let him play SS.
I really hope that’s right. As already mentioned, I’m assuming the medical on Story is positive, and the club is confident he can play SS, and strictly speculative, it seems to me like X wants to hit the market looking for elite SS money. I’m hoping hard there is way to extend him too, but bracing myself for this being his last year with the Sox.I don't think it means anything regarding Bogaerts, because we have no idea how much Story's elbow played into this deal. If there's concern that it won't hold up at SS much longer, then the expectation could be that Story is the long term second baseman.
Now if this was Story's the new shortstop and Bogaerts is moving, I could read it as Bogaerts is gone at the end of the year. But they're accommodating Bogaerts' desire to stay at short. Strikes me as a move made by a front office that wants him around, and wants to do what it can to keep him around.
He also provides a nice hedge against a Bogie injury this year. Last year's team had *nothing* behind him; if he had even one more little stretch of missed games it likely would have knocked the team out of a playoff spot.That contract is about as close to a best case scenario contract I can remember for a great not good baseball player.
Fits extremely well now, as a hedge for 2023 beyond at short. And his position flexibility is a great fit given the current status of the system talent.
Extend Devers and you shouldn’t have to leave the system for field a fantastic left side over the next decade.
I am not sure an 8 year old article that just averages all the guys who have played in Colorado and left is particularly impressive "research" that I need to be up on.I really like this deal; I’m assuming this is an indication the medical staff passed his throwing elbow so he can cover SS as needed…
If X stays, and maintains his death grip on SS, at the very least if the shift is banned next season then there will be a premium on athletic plus defenders at 2B; Story should stay there instead of moving Devers to DH
For everyone who is not up on the research about Coors affects on hitters, home and away, read this: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/when-position-players-get-away-from-coors-field/
No reason to give X a mega contract now with Story and Mayer a couple of years away. Give the money to Devers.I really hope that’s right. As already mentioned, I’m assuming the medical on Story is positive, and the club is confident he can play SS, and strictly speculative, it seems to me like X wants to hit the market looking for elite SS money. I’m hoping hard there is way to extend him too, but bracing myself for this being his last year with the Sox.
Yeah suddenly the Sox' infield looks tremendous, at least offensively. The weakest of the bunch is Dalbec at 1b, and he's a 30 homer guy.Infield is looking like one of the best in baseball with Casas possibly arriving in a few months as well. Best part is not having to wait 2-3 months to watch Story.
My oh my, if we can get 30 homers out of 2b! Very happy with this signing and contract.Hell yea. Great signing, solid contract.
I posted this back in December, but Story played through an elbow injury for the first half of the year and hit .237/.311/.394 (77 wRC+) through June 13. He hit .259/.340/.518 (114 wRC+) afterward, including a 132 wRC+ in his last 30 games.
He would have hit 39 home runs last year — a big jump over the 24 he recorded — had he played all his games in Fenway, according to Statcast.
You know that this hasn't been true for a while, right? Thanks to the humidors, Coors has gone from far and away the #1 park factor for home runs (something like 40% above average back in the 2010s, to just being in the top 10, usually only about 10-20% above average, similar to the Bronx and other 'normal' hitters parks.Guys, he played in a stadium where the ball travels much further due to the altitude, so much so that the ballpark as the biggest dimensions in baseball and it's still a hitters paradise. It's pretty useless imo to use these kinds of overlaps and translate it to what his performance would be like at Fenway.
Cross posting my thoughts on this from the off season thread...I really hope that’s right. As already mentioned, I’m assuming the medical on Story is positive, and the club is confident he can play SS, and strictly speculative, it seems to me like X wants to hit the market looking for elite SS money. I’m hoping hard there is way to extend him too, but bracing myself for this being his last year with the Sox.