I've got the MRI and post-scope pics of my knees, and I agree with DRS that the pics in there way more clearly showed the f'd up nature of my cartilage. But then again, I am no radiologist! One way or the other hope TL gets well soon!I disagree!!
I've got the MRI and post-scope pics of my knees, and I agree with DRS that the pics in there way more clearly showed the f'd up nature of my cartilage. But then again, I am no radiologist! One way or the other hope TL gets well soon!I disagree!!
With the trade deadline passed, what are the avenues for the C's to get someone beyond Morgan right now? Street FA and G league only?a pogo stick that can move his feet, block shots and dunk. Slightly taller Derrick Jones Jr would help or maybe DJJ is another hat to throw in the ring this summer
The minutes without Tatum will be where this REALLY hurts IMO. Rob and Jaylen have good chemistry, and he is JB’s safety net when driving.I’d also submit that a lurking TL near the basket on O helped JT and others on drives. You’d see the opposing C get caught often in no man’s land as he knew if he committed to the driver he risked an easy alley-oop. It created nice lanes during the present run.
nothing can be added to the playoff rosterWith the trade deadline passed, what are the avenues for the C's to get someone beyond Morgan right now? Street FA and G league only?
Good news is Tatum has some of that chemistry with Theis already, I think. Theis is good at sealing his defender, at setting screens, and if he gets hot from three, could be pretty useful.JB and others have to develop something close to that chemistry with Theis now. There isn't really another option to this.
Any player who was a Free agent by Mar. 1 can be signed and is playoff eligible.nothing can be added to the playoff roster
Here is the formula to winning without TL in the playoffs:It hurts obviously, but the teams ceiling is still tied to Tatum. The defense will still be excellent, and if we get this Tatum? And Jaylen keeping up his play? The Bucks are still the only team in the East that I’d be really worried about.
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Theis does a lot of the things Rob did, just not as explosively. I’m guessing Ime (eventually) plays Theis in the Rob role, keeps Grant as the first big off the bench, and fills in minutes with Nesmith or possibly Hauser.Here is the formula to winning without TL in the playoffs:
1. SmartJAYs each play 40++ mpg
2. Grant slides into starting lineup, parks himself into the CornerOffice & drills them at a 50% clip
3. Horford takes over Rob's role, help/Free Safety on D and the dunker spot on O
Theis is a walking foul machine, just don't think we'll get a whole lot of minutes out of him.Theis does a lot of the things Rob did, just not as explosively. I’m guessing Ime (eventually) plays Theis in the Rob role, keeps Grant as the first big off the bench, and fills in minutes with Nesmith or possibly Hauser.
If it’s a tear that requires surgery but can’t be fixed then yeah…. probably not great news for his long term health.Regarding Rob’s torn meniscus if the tear, I still get confused reading this. If the tear can’t be fixed, Rob MAY be able to play again this year. What does a tear that can’t be fixed do to his knee health long term and it is a greater chance that he has a shorter career?
Both tweet reads that they are deciding which procedure to do prior to going in so I’m confused here. If the player doesn’t like the teams decision they have the right to a second opinion. It will be interesting to see what comes of this and what type of arrangement is made.As DRS says above, they won't know the full extent until they go in with a scope.
I havent finished the thread...They’ll determine it at the time of surgery - the MRI is informative but not definitive
Assuming Ime is representing the Celtics in the media he said that there will be surgery. The part that I’m confused by is that he is saying that different procedures are being considered (apparently one by the team and another by TL’s agent) while DRS said that the type of procedure wouldn’t be determined until they go in.I havent finished the thread...
What % of meniscal tears are non op? I tore mine playing adult league soccer, no surg / scope, and just needed 4 weeks rest.
I get we have limited info into the severity (eg bucket handle wasnt mentioned).
He seemed to play 1-2 quarters after injury - pure speculation - could he rest for a few weeks and play in the playoffs? Followed by offseason scope.
Nobody knows how intense these discussions are but that is typically the case. The team is concerned with getting the player on the court and the agent is concerned with positioning his client to set up best for his next contract and beyond.I’m assuming the team wants to risk the longer term for the shorter and his agent does not?
They will be 95+% sure the type of procedure before they go in.Assuming Ime is representing the Celtics in the media he said that there will be surgery. The part that I’m confused by is that he is saying that different procedures are being considered (apparently one by the team and another by TL’s agent) while DRS said that the type of procedure wouldn’t be determined until they go in.
Given the way it's been reported, likely not.He seemed to play 1-2 quarters after injury - pure speculation - could he rest for a few weeks and play in the playoffs? Followed by offseason scope.
Never know for sure but Brad seems like a reasonable guy who isn't going to force any short term gain for a big risk of long term issues. Plus, Rob is under contract for 3 more seasons so the Celtics have a vested interest beyond this season.I’m assuming the team wants to risk the longer term for the shorter and his agent does not?
Ya. Mine was a minor lateral anterior. Good ole n of 1Given the way it's been reported, likely not.
If they already know he needs surgery and it's debate of repair vs resection, it's almost certainly very different and more significant than your tear.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7237395/Ya. Mine was a minor lateral anterior. Good ole n of 1
I posted before seeing all the info with Ime saying surgery imminent. Really sucks
Probably a slightly lesser tension around this issue than normal here, given he's under contract for 4 years already. He still wants to get some sort of $200M megadeal obviously in 4 years, but the Celtics' interests are fairly aligned in keeping him healthy for at least the next 4 years (fairly long as far as things go).Nobody knows how intense these discussions are but that is typically the case. The team is concerned with getting the player on the court and the agent is concerned with positioning his client to set up best for his next contract and beyond.
This is very true. Good point.Probably a slightly lesser tension around this issue than normal here, given he's under contract for 4 years already. He still wants to get some sort of $200M megadeal obviously in 4 years, but the Celtics' interests are fairly aligned in keeping him healthy for at least the next 4 years (fairly long as far as things go).
This is some terrible quarterbacking. He came out of the game for good with 2:46 left in the 3rd quarter.Obvious Monday morning quarterbacking, but it’s a shame he was on the floor in a blowout. Just unnecessary.
A lot of the back and forth at this point probably comes down to where he’s having the surgery and by whom, both of which the player, his agent, and the team will weigh in onI’m assuming the team wants to risk the longer term for the shorter and his agent does not?
Did he play a minute before he had it repaired?My brother had a meniscus tear repaired and he never played a minute in the NBA after that.
I once hurt my hands, and I even thought I had broken them. The doctor had a look and said that they were in fact broken but they'd eventually be fine. I then asked whether I'd be able to play the piano when they healed, and he responded "absolutely", and I said that I was happy to hear that because I'd never played the piano before.Did he play a minute before he had it repaired?
I assumed as such, I was just double checking. Maybe Acie Earl is his brother and had some surgery I'm unaware of or something.I once hurt my hands, and I even thought I had broken them. The doctor had a look and said that they were in fact broken but they'd eventually be fine. I then asked whether I'd be able to play the piano when they healed, and he responded "absolutely", and I said that I was happy to hear that because I'd never played the piano before.
I think jose's comment is a variation of my bad joke.
He suffered the injury Sunday night, and was evaluated by Monday. There were obviously a lot of discussions around the treatment options, with the team, Williams, and Williams' agent all needing to agree on a course of action. Probably final decision was arrived at late Monday, and then Williams needs time to prepare. And it's also possible that the operating team was backed up with more urgent cases as the CoVid backlog is still being worked through.Question for our in-house doctors:
Why would Williams not have had the surgery the day after his injury, or ASAP in general? Is there swelling that needs to subside before doctors can operate? Does he have to first do some pre-surgery "rehab," as with a torn ACL?
Seems like the sooner they operate, the sooner they would know the severity of the injury (and whether Rob might be able to return this season).
Thanks. I didn't realize a date for the operation had been set. Two-plus days is definitely not a significant delay.He suffered the injury Sunday night, and was evaluated by Monday. There were obviously a lot of discussions around the treatment options, with the team, Williams, and Williams' agent all needing to agree on a course of action. Probably final decision was arrived at late Monday, and then Williams needs time to prepare. And it's also possible that the operating team was backed up with more urgent cases as the CoVid backlog is still being worked through.
Surger is supposed to happen today, which is really not all that much of a delay.