Grissom is also cheap. Isn't it because Kelenic plays a different position at the ML level? They talked about maybe moving Grissom to the OF but if the kid is ready to hit at the big league level they may not want Grissom to learn a new position on the fly in the majors.
Agreed, I like him a lot more than Valdez. Not sure why that comp went out there.
Hard not to love a reel full of oppo shots, but I'd also like to get them off the ground a bit.
His 80 Major league PA in 2023 were a mess, they didn't have much to work with on the highlight reel
. 0HR and only 4 XBH. -0.7 WAR in 23 games is tough to do, he was very bad.
That is the small irony of this trade: everyone is looking for the Sox to trade from their positional surplus to land a SP, and that’s what the Braves did…
Pedroia's 98 PA cup of coffee in 2006 was a mess, and his first 80 PAs in 2007 were equally a mess. Good thing management didn't follow Jerry Remy's advice and bench him in favor of that genius Alex Cora.His 80 Major league PA in 2023 were a mess, they didn't have much to work with on the highlight reel
His larger 2022 major league sample size of 156 PA at age 21 was much more promising. Not sure what happened last season in the majors (he was great at AAA) but hopefully just a blip.
Here's some 2022 highlights — much more in the air, starting with that dinger in Fenway
That's really interesting - doesn't even look like the same hitter. Did his bat slow down (a lot) last year?Here's some 2022 highlights — much more in the air, starting with that dinger in Fenway
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxQICzsM4lQ
It is a big if for sure. But, there wasn't much of a need to keep Sale here any longer, and they might hit the lottery on this guy. Otherwise, someone will outplay him for the position in the longer term. Not much risk associated here. If Story can stay healthy, the defense is going to look a lot better.
Yeah, Pedroia started very poorly. Most of us were wondering what he was doing on the team, then, bangpeople like me looked like idiots.
Interesting that Fangraphs views him more as an FV 45.
If Grissom is anywhere close to what we hope he can be in the next year or two, it seems unlikely CB would have difficulties moving an everyday player with four years of control left.
Or seeing if he can transition to the OF, or trading Story or Mayer, depending on what looks best at that time. As you say, this is not a problem.
It's entirely possible. His walk rate dropped from 7.1% in 2022 to 2.5% in 2023, which does suggest more impatience. It's also possible that after his cup of coffee, teams had a better book on him and he wasn't around long enough to make the requisite adjustments.
I really like this trade but this just isn’t true. Guys flame out all the time in the big leagues after successful stints in AAA. Here is a link to the best offensive seasons in AAA since 2006 filtered by age 23 and younger (min: 300 PAs).
You’ve been making a lot of good posts that add value (and data) to our discussions. Reminds me quite a bit of an excellent poster who went silent about two weeks ago. Keep posting!
Kelenic and Grissom are also polar opposites as hitters. Kelenic whiffs all the time with huge power, Grissom makes tons of contact with uncertain power. The Braves may have reasons of organizational philosophy, or just lineup fit, to prefer Kelenic's profile.
The Red Sox had the worst second base defense in the majors last year by DRS at -12 runs.
Scouting reports keep referencing his hit tool. Does he have an unusually high line drive percentage driving up his BABIP?
My scepticism regarding most anything quoted here leaves me wondering how old this quote is.
From his B-Ref page, it appears Grissom's only time in the PR winter league was this winter. Six games at 3B, seven games in LF. He did not play 2B at all. Five other guys did (including old friend Jack Lopez for an inning). I suppose it could be he didn't play there because his manager didn't "see" him there, but it seems just as likely he wasn't there to play 2B at all. Considering he went there while still a Brave, and that he played any time at all in the outfield which he'd never done before in his professional career, I would guess he was there to work on new positions that gave him a better chance to make the Braves roster in 2024. Second base wasn't going to get him playing time (then again, neither was 3B).
Thanks for doing the leg work on this. Given the reliability (or lack thereof) concerning these Tweets, updates, what have you, I could just imagine this being an assessment from a couple of years ago.
It’s relevant. Not the definitive final word, but relevant. Other reports are less pessimistic. The Sox seem to believe in him. We’ll see. Right now I’m at “better glove than Emmanuel Valdez and better bat too, who hits right handed thus fits our lineup better”. Which, with 6 years of control, is a nice piece to have.
McAdam updated the piece that @RedOctober3829 shared with another scout’s take, that was bullish on his ability at 2nd base.
I’m excited about the trade for Grissom. But I don’t think we should discount what this manager is saying. It’s one more piece of evidence. Others are more optimistic. But this guy presumably knows baseball and has seen Grissom up close actually playing the game. His opinion deserves to be added to the mix of those we should pay attention to.
As others have mentioned, he’s been juggled around and has had to compete and prepare for a variety of different scenarios as a young player.
Yes. I mentioned upthread or in one of the other threads that I would hope that the Sox could get Pedrioa to take him under his wing and coach him up. Not just because of the way that he played the position, but also because of his experience when he was first brought up here. I also think that pairing him up with Story could also be quite valuable in his development as he can surely share his own, fairly recent experiences about transitioning from SS to 2B
