The Nation's Tears: Pink Stripes
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Revkeith said:
These people all need to suffer a real personal tragedy. It's a Super Bowl loss one year after winning. Salt in the wounds? I'm not looking forward to the next wave from the Seattle music scene in 10 years.
I thought this was telling and interesting as well. From Michael Hurley's "diary" of covering the super bowl.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/02/04/what-its-like-to-cover-a-super-bowl/
Marciano490 said:
Well, it's also ridiculous because I'm sure similar shit happens at nearly every parade, it's just that stuff doesn't go viral. it's not like players come to the Patriots and suddenly become extra assholish.
And this is based on...what? 1 player holding up 1 fan-made shirt? I suppose every player and fan in Seattle likes to defecate on sporting goods, too, based on that one action during the game. What a sick fucking group of people! Seattle must be awash in feces!
The Pats dynasty isn't real compared to...the 1960's Packers
http://www.greenbaypackernation.com/meet-a-real-dynasty/
http://www.greenbaypackernation.com/meet-a-real-dynasty/
Revkeith said:
From the letter--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSx2c7-PVG4
The "Who was talking about you?" line kills me every time. The inflection from her is just amazing.
This rubbed me the wrong way:
Whether or not she meant it, that smacks of entitlement.
I know that the Boston fan base can be insufferable at their extremes (which is why I only can skim the SB49 game thread through the bridge-jumper moments after the Brady picks, the Kearse catch). Most fans by definition can be that way - fanatical, extreme.
But I'm also old enough to remember how barren the landscape was being a Pats fan before 2001, or a Sox fan before 2004, or Celtics fan after the mid-80's, etc.
I never take the success of teams I root for lightly, nor do I take them for granted. Whether that's a product of the Puritanical underpinnings of the region, or my superstition "sports hypochondria" after the heartbreaks of 1986 and 2003 (Sox), as well as the two SB losses against the Giants, who knows.
Whether or not she meant it, that smacks of entitlement.
I know that the Boston fan base can be insufferable at their extremes (which is why I only can skim the SB49 game thread through the bridge-jumper moments after the Brady picks, the Kearse catch). Most fans by definition can be that way - fanatical, extreme.
But I'm also old enough to remember how barren the landscape was being a Pats fan before 2001, or a Sox fan before 2004, or Celtics fan after the mid-80's, etc.
I never take the success of teams I root for lightly, nor do I take them for granted. Whether that's a product of the Puritanical underpinnings of the region, or my superstition "sports hypochondria" after the heartbreaks of 1986 and 2003 (Sox), as well as the two SB losses against the Giants, who knows.
I don't recall people reacting this way toward the Giants in 2008 and 2012.
I think the reaction around here has been to drown our sorrows in each others' company and lament a lost opportunity. Like going to a bar after a funeral and talking it out.
Seattle's reaction seems to be to run into the bar where the party is and set off the sprinkler system.
I guess it's to be expected; it's still on of their first tough losses. The city's sports history is relatively barren; they can't compare tough losses to other tough losses yet, so everything feels so fresh and novel. Like having your heart broken the first time.
It gets easier.
I think the reaction around here has been to drown our sorrows in each others' company and lament a lost opportunity. Like going to a bar after a funeral and talking it out.
Seattle's reaction seems to be to run into the bar where the party is and set off the sprinkler system.
I guess it's to be expected; it's still on of their first tough losses. The city's sports history is relatively barren; they can't compare tough losses to other tough losses yet, so everything feels so fresh and novel. Like having your heart broken the first time.
It gets easier.
drleather2001 said:
Didn't they flood the Puget with tears after losing to the Steelers in the SB, too? I know there were some legit beefs with the officiating in that game, but I remember them being particularly ungracious; even Holmgren made a crappy comment during their loser parade.
If the Bears suck, you'll skate by. They liked their Brady and Gronk jerseys just fine back in the day, but my boys are 8 and 11 and the Seahawks are walking gods now. Their school even took them to the victory parade last year.amarshal2 said:
So: buy them Pats stuff. If the Bears get good, home school them. Prevent them from having friends. You'll be fine.
Undoubtedly. I'm surround by non-Pats fans here in SC and all I hear is that we're lucky and that the Seahawks gave the game away. It's insane how deep the haters will reach to try to find anything to discredit the Patriots' accomplishments. When I point put that it would've been a touchdown if Butler hadn't jumped the route, they give some form of "Well, yeah, but..."Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
I don't think the play call was nearly as egregious as everyone is making it out to be either. Again, it's a TD if either Browner gets picked into Butler, or if Butler doesn't have the foresight to jump the route. It was a well designed play. I think the throw was the worst part, yet no one wants to call out Wilson.
In the GOAT QBs thread, it was pretty much decided you can't compare QBs back to that period with today's, so why should teams/dynasties be compared. Also, there were 14 NFL teams during the Packers dynasty, except moving to 16 in 1967. Today there are 32. How much harder does that make it to win the SB today? Mathematicians? Only one playoff game back then too. It's sort of like expecting a baseball team today to do anything like the Yankees did when there were 8 AL teams and just the world series for playoffs. Ain't happening.brandonchristensen said:
Even if you concede that there was luck involved in an iffy play call, in every facet of life, you still need to capitalize on good fortune otherwise it's nothing. Every champion,or winner, in everything, ever, has had something go right that was beyond their control.
To make a totally out-sized analogy, the fucking Allies sure were lucky that Hitler decided to invade Russia as opposed to focusing on knocking off Britain. Yet I don't see many folks arguing that it makes the Allied success at Normandy somehow less incredible or brave. "Germany totally should have won, bro!"
To make a totally out-sized analogy, the fucking Allies sure were lucky that Hitler decided to invade Russia as opposed to focusing on knocking off Britain. Yet I don't see many folks arguing that it makes the Allied success at Normandy somehow less incredible or brave. "Germany totally should have won, bro!"
The Deflated Wilson Interceptionbankshot1 said:
The Malcolm In The Middle play
Interception: The Dream Is Real
The Seahawks got Ballhawked
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Yeah, but this thread is about "tears" - and according to this post, that wasn't what CH was spreading around the locker room.
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2008/08/charles-haley-would-like-you-to-watch-him-masturbate.html
At least he knows the difference between "tainted" and "taint"...
I'd call it the Aunt of all fluky bounces. David Tyree says "hi"JimD said:
It's nice that I can say that and laugh rather than cry now.
I've had that "Patriots are lucky!" argument at least five times in the past two days. Yep, Kearse's catch wasn't luck, but Butler's play was - as said by thousands of fucking morons.
Trying to rationally explain why Carroll had to use at least one pass play in three downs because he only had one timeout is a fool's errand as well.
Trying to rationally explain why Carroll had to use at least one pass play in three downs because he only had one timeout is a fool's errand as well.
I presume his actual death was not due to a heart attack right after the game or some other incident related to the game.
loshjott said:
You're right, totally makes sense to just presume rather than read the article. It was a joke.
Well, did Sully and Fitzy kill him?TheShynessClinic said:
This guy posts on a another website I frequent (it's a military version of LinkedIn). He's so, so salty.
And why is he so salty?
Oh, wait.
NOW it all makes sense.
I was at a breakfast with Steve Baker, NFL agent this morning. I asked him who was the best, most shrewd front office in the NFL, and he waxed on about Philly and San Francisco for a few minutes before saying "Oh, and obviously, the best by far is Belichick, no matter what you think of his integrity."
Afterwards, I asked him what he thought about Brady's recent contract restructure. "I think Bob Kraft has a secret deal worked out with Tom Brady to get paid less now, and he'll pay him more after his career ends. It's blatant circumvention of the salary cap, and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it." I then asked him why teams like SF and Denver had blatantly cheated by circumventing the cap, and yet no one talks about them, they only talk about the "Cheatriots" and he said "Well they ARE the Cheatriots! How do those balls get deflated?" Having lost some confidence in him, I said "The Ideal Gas Law? PV=nRT, right?" And he waved his hands and said "Look, everyone's cheating, just the Patriots do it better than anyone else, but they are cheating."
I didn't leave him with my current Patriots fan motto, which is "Fuck Everyone But Us" sung to the tune of the Chariots of Fire melody.
Afterwards, I asked him what he thought about Brady's recent contract restructure. "I think Bob Kraft has a secret deal worked out with Tom Brady to get paid less now, and he'll pay him more after his career ends. It's blatant circumvention of the salary cap, and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it." I then asked him why teams like SF and Denver had blatantly cheated by circumventing the cap, and yet no one talks about them, they only talk about the "Cheatriots" and he said "Well they ARE the Cheatriots! How do those balls get deflated?" Having lost some confidence in him, I said "The Ideal Gas Law? PV=nRT, right?" And he waved his hands and said "Look, everyone's cheating, just the Patriots do it better than anyone else, but they are cheating."
I didn't leave him with my current Patriots fan motto, which is "Fuck Everyone But Us" sung to the tune of the Chariots of Fire melody.
San Francisco? Maybe Paraag Marathe, one of the best kept secrets in the NFL, but who else? Certainly, the guy at the top will never be called shrewd, but he's the owner, not FO.Old Fart Tree said:
Pretty clever job by Kraft to disguise that deal with Brady to circumvent the salary cap and pay him less by restructuring the contract to pay him more and count more against the cap.Old Fart Tree said:
Sounds like the kind of clown Mark Brunell would hire to represent his business interests.
The cheating mantra also serves as a self-preservation tactic for a GM or coach having to explain another disappointing season to their owner
