Don't forget Mike Woodson and Lionel Hollins. It's like they are purposefully interviewing the worst coaches available. Maybe this is Kurt Rambis' secret plan to end up with the job.Frank Vogel?
Eh, I feel like this is part of the problem. The Lakers are banking on some legend from the past to swoop in and save the day for them because they are the Lakers, dammit. Is there any recent evidence to suggest Riley is even a good team-builder anymore? He's capped Miami out with okay players and missed the playoffs in a weak conference; has he done anything really good since LeBron decided to go to South Beach?There’s one face saving move available. Turn the whole franchise over to Riley.
Credibility, history with LBJ, and massive PR value. Let him hand pick his coach.
Fixed that for you.There’s one face saving move available. Turn the whole franchise over toRileyPitino.Credibility, history with LBJ, and massive PR value. Massive entertainment value. Let him hand pick his coach.
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3 team trade where the Celtics get LeBron and LA gets Davis, perhaps?Should the Lakers trade LeBron and rebuild?
If KI bolts Boston, could the Montagues and Capulets find common ground and do a deal?
If the Celts have the best assets for AD, they probably have the best assets for LeBron.
Or is this heresy?
I was thinking of a direct Celt-Laker deal, and if then LA wanted to deal with NO, they could.3 team trade where the Celtics get LeBron and LA gets Davis, perhaps?
I would be against Tatum for LeBron just because of age. I would prefer to trade Jaylen because he has one fewer year of controlI was thinking of a direct Celt-Laker deal, and if then LA wanted to deal with NO, they could.
The thought (and admittedly its a long shot) was is AD as potentially a 1 year rental (he's a FA in '20) as attractive as LeBron for his last 3 years. And I assume the cost in terms of players and draft picks might be similiar.
I assumed something like Tatum, Gordo, (it passed the Trade Machine) and 3 1s (including the Memphis pick) for the Lakers.
Lololololokoool. The Rambis family tried to force Kurt Rambis on Lue.And what’s worse, asking Lue to take on Rambis as an assistant, a no-no according to sources close to Lue, feels like the Lakers want their walls bugged and feared a LeBron takeover — as if Lue would allow himself to be used as a puppet.
They are also in the Buss “inner circle” so they have a lot of power.How does the Rambis family have an ownership stake? Did he buy in after playing or his family independently wealthy?
We would all prefer to trade Jaylen and keep Tatum, but the rest of the league isn’t dumb. They know Jaylen will never be more than a good complementary player, and that he’s going to get paid next summer. In the unlikely event the Lakers decide to move LeBron, they will have better offers than Jaylen + picks.I would be against Tatum for LeBron just because of age. I would prefer to trade Jaylen because he has one fewer year of control
+1This is probably fodder for it's own thread by now, but why would this current version of the Celtics want LeBron? His need-desire-demand to have nearly every offensive set run through him seems counter to the type of style of play Stevens employs?
Nevermind that he is turning 35 this coming season having played his first NBA game in 2003. James also works out like a freak (albeit just based on his social media videos which may or may not be real life). You have to think the wear and tear catches up sooner rather than later. Maybe not a flipped switch, but within a year or two we may suddenly start to realize, "wait, LeBron isn't a top 5-10 player anymore?"This is probably fodder for it's own thread by now, but why would this current version of the Celtics want LeBron? His need-desire-demand to have nearly every offensive set run through him seems counter to the style of play Stevens employs?
Yup. And a declining LeBron will likely be even more insufferable than the current version. Hard pass.Nevermind that he is turning 35 this coming season having played his first NBA game in 2003. James also works out like a freak (albeit just based on his social media videos which may or may not be real life). You have to think the wear and tear catches up sooner rather than later. Maybe not a flipped switch, but within a year or two we may suddenly start to realize, "wait, LeBron isn't a top 5-10 player anymore?"
This is the fan base that still worships Kobe.How Jason Kidd, a serial domestic abuser, keeps getting jobs is beyond me. And he is now working for a female boss too.
I was a huge Kidd fan until he broke his wife’s nose for “not feeding the kid properly”. I had not read or heard that he had multiple incidents. Either way, am not a fan.How Jason Kidd, a serial domestic abuser, keeps getting jobs is beyond me. And he is now working for a female boss too.
I mean, that would definitely turn the tables on the laughter. But what are they trading for AD? Ingram and Ball's value is significantly lower than it was even at the deadline.Imagine after all of this laughing and roasting, the Lakers roll out LeBron, Davis and Kyrie next year?
Here are the allegations. The kicking in the stomach thing is particularly disgusting.I was a huge Kidd fan until he broke his wife’s nose for “not feeding the kid properly”. I had not read or heard that he had multiple incidents. Either way, am not a fan.
Not to mention he is not very good as a coach which would seem to be an important consideration.How Jason Kidd, a serial domestic abuser, keeps getting jobs is beyond me. And he is now working for a female boss too.
Yeah, unless the Lakers fuck us by landing a top 2 pick (well, unless Memphis lands #4 in that scenario) there’s no way they have the assets to trade for Davis.I mean, that would definitely turn the tables on the laughter. But what are they trading for AD? Ingram and Ball's value is significantly lower than it was even at the deadline.
I'd guess he is there for a) crash and burn insurance and b) to hold the hand/mentor any Ball ball handler present.Not to mention he is not very good as a coach which would seem to be an important consideration.
If Donovan Mitchell can lead the Jazz to the playoffs, then I think that James and Beal can manage the trick in LA.if they trade for Beal or sign a comparable max guy in free agency (harris, butler, kemba) and then fill out the roster with 1 year contracts they're not going anywhere in the west next year, then it's hoping that in 2 years Lebron is still Lebron, that's a big gamble to take if they have the chance instead to add 2 max guys this summer
Tatum might be better than any one of Knox, Smith, or Barrett. But all three? With Mitch Robinson and draft picks to toss in if they need further sweeteners? New York’s godfather offer is going to be tough to beat.I agree with the others that this broke really well for Boston. Griffin has every incentive to add other young pieces around Williamson and build from there. If he goes the Boston route, he gets Tatum plus the Memphis pick. The risk is that he somehow values whatever the Knicks or Lakers throw at him more.
But if he has a chance to get Tatum plus another valuable pick versus some combo of Frankie Ntilikina, Knox, DSJ or Ball, Kuzma and Ingram, I suspect the Boston package still wins. Tatum is a better player than any of those guys and has some star power to sell to the local fanbase. The other guys are potentially decent players but their star potential is fairly low.
I think your larger point is correct, but I'm not sure why you think Kuzma is such as asset. Isn't he just a one-way, relatively inefficient, volume scorer?The #3 or #4 pick has real value that I think we're understating here.
That pick in either the LA or NY package is going to be the best single asset available from New Orleans' perspective.
Tatum + the Memphis pick + the Sac pick + Smart is a really nice group of assets, but if I'm the Pelicans, #3 plus Knox and Mitchell Robinson plus Dennis Smith is very competitive with that, if not better. Same for #4, Kuzma, and whatever LA can add.
While you are correct is that there are always players that develop into stars after the #1 and #2 pick, the issue is picking them. No one was picking Giannis at #3.The #3 or #4 pick has real value that I think we're understating here.
That pick in either the LA or NY package is going to be the best single asset available from New Orleans' perspective.
Tatum + the Memphis pick + the Sac pick + Smart is a really nice group of assets, but if I'm the Pelicans, #3 plus Knox and Mitchell Robinson plus Dennis Smith is very competitive with that, if not better. Same for #4, Kuzma, and whatever LA can add.
I know that sitting here in May, people are calling this a 2 man draft, but remember - that is never actually the case. You would have to go back at least a decade to find a draft where no Jayson Tatum caliber player is available after #3 - frankly, I can't find a single draft like that, and I stopped looking at 2009.
Sure, teams miss on picks every year, but by draft day, there will be a guy at #3 or #4 that New Orleans loves, and there will 100% be someone available at that point in the draft who will be as good or better than Tatum and will be cheap and under team control for two more years. It doesn't matter if NO is right about who that guy is - just that they believe they are.
You couldn’t be bothered to look up his stats before posting?I think your larger point is correct, but I'm not sure why you think Kuzma is such as asset. Isn't he just a one-way, relatively inefficient, volume scorer?
His oRTG (accounting for shooting efficiency, turnovers, offensive rebounding) was 105 against a league average of 110. It should be noted that Tatum was 107 last season (he was at 111 last year).You couldn’t be bothered to look up his stats before posting?
Is one of the 5 tools defense? Because Beal doesn't play it.I think Beal is also very underrated on this board. The fact that he’s mentioned with Kemba and Tobias Harris as comparables is where I’m going with this. He’s a legit 5-tool stud in this league.
Its not defense. Its live Tweeting Game Of Thrones.Is one of the 5 tools defense? Because Beal doesn't play it.
Get with the program.Is one of the 5 tools defense? Because Beal doesn't play it.