ifmanis5 said:We really don't have a screenshot of the based Charger cheerleader?
koufax32 said:Gamethread fail
Twitter to the rescue.
ifmanis5 said:We really don't have a screenshot of the based Charger cheerleader?
koufax32 said:Gamethread fail
bankshot1 said:...
and they're missing Jones and Hightower
BB-& Patricia are gonna have this freakin unit humming in January-Feb
TDs today: former UDFA RB cut by his team and picked up by the Pats scores a rushing TD; 6th rounder QB throws a pass to 7th rounder WR.ShaneTrot said:I am continuously amazed how NE gets so much from undrafted free agents and players no one wanted: Nink, Bolden, Ayers, Casillas, Branch, Siliga etc.
Gregg Easterbrook approves this message.singaporesoxfan said:TDs today: former UDFA RB cut by his team and picked up by the Pats scores a rushing TD; 6th rounder QB throws a pass to 7th rounder WR.
Is it just me or did this entire San Diego swing seem like the team was vacationing together? From going out early, to having Chandler Jones join them on the trip, to them taking in Clippers games and what have you, there seemed to be a long game here on BB's part to bring the team closer together.LesterFan said:
I do think at this point in the season, mental fatigue can be an issue, and breaking up the routine with a week like this is one way of combating that. I'm also pretty sure Belichick thinks about this stuff; the mental fatigue factor is something I've heard as a justification for the joint practices in the preseason.Van Everyman said:Is it just me or did this entire San Diego swing seem like the team was vacationing together? From going out early, to having Chandler Jones join them on the trip, to them taking in Clippers games and what have you, there seemed to be a long game here on BB's part to bring the team closer together.
Super Nomario said:I think Hightower's loss would hurt more against a team with a better running game (Chargers entered the game 30th in YPC).
tims4wins said:Think about how many things went wrong last night:
1) Hightower out
2) Fail on goal to go from the 1
3) Fumble returned for a TD against you
4) Fail on goal to go from the 4
5) Fail inside red zone on pick at end of half
6) McCourty TD called back
I'm sure I am missing some.
When that kind of stuff happens on the road, you don't win in the NFL. With the Pats having spent 10 days on the road, a loss may have been devastating - could have wiped out all the good vibes they created. The fact that they pulled it out is just awesome. Obviously the D gets the game ball for giving the offense a chance in the second half. I'm in total fanboy mode right now, I don't care. I'm giddy they won last night. Feeling like if they get up early against Miami it is going to get u-g-l-y.
Jonathan Kraft also said as much during the pregame radio interview.Super Nomario said:I do think at this point in the season, mental fatigue can be an issue, and breaking up the routine with a week like this is one way of combating that. I'm also pretty sure Belichick thinks about this stuff; the mental fatigue factor is something I've heard as a justification for the joint practices in the preseason.
They really did perservere. Some of that is just football though. I think in most closely won NFL games these days you can point to moments like some of those where adversity was overcome. The one that sticks out to me is the fumble return for seven points. I would think with the parity in the NFL it's not that common that a road team can weather a defensive score. When you consider that teams get on average about 11 or 12 drives a game with an average expectancy of a bit over 2 points a drive, wasting one of your drives and giving the opponent 7 points is rough. (Though you do get the ball right back and so decrease one of your opponent's drives.). Tack on the approximately 3 point advantage for HFA and it's basically like giving your opponent three plus extra drives when you're on the road.tims4wins said:Think about how many things went wrong last night:
1) Hightower out
2) Fail on goal to go from the 1
3) Fumble returned for a TD against you
4) Fail on goal to go from the 4
5) Fail inside red zone on pick at end of half
6) McCourty TD called back
I'm sure I am missing some.
When that kind of stuff happens on the road, you don't win in the NFL. With the Pats having spent 10 days on the road, a loss may have been devastating - could have wiped out all the good vibes they created. The fact that they pulled it out is just awesome. Obviously the D gets the game ball for giving the offense a chance in the second half. I'm in total fanboy mode right now, I don't care. I'm giddy they won last night. Feeling like if they get up early against Miami it is going to get u-g-l-y.
I don't agree that McDaniel is goat worthy.jacklamabe65 said:Up: Jamie C, The Island, and Jules
Down: Josh McDaniel - WTF
RedOctober3829 said:Why do people blame McDaniels for the offense sputtering? It's called poor execution. Sure, there were some questionable play calls but there always are. Is it his fault Nate Solder was a turnstyle for most of the game? Is he responsible for Brady throwing off his back foot and short arming a ball 10 yards for an INT? It's lazy to blame the OC. Look deeper into the game and see the real reasons.
TheMoralBully said:1) Collins. He's really good and he was doing everything last night. Have we had a LB with his mix of size and athleticism? Maybe Colvin, but we didn't get his best years.
tims4wins said:When that kind of stuff happens on the road, you don't win in the NFL.
He was very good in 2007 and 2008 until he got hurt. 2009 was, admittedly, an abomination.Devizier said:
Adalius Thomas. Didn't work out, obviously.
tims4wins said:Yeah I remember ADT's pick return - against Cincy I think? He was a beast in 07.
TheMoralBully said:People were predicting this game to be a curb stomping. I'm not worried about Miami and the Pats should win, but come on, this is December football against teams in the playoff mix. That's just not usually how it works out.
Right thanks. Both were awesome early season winsRIrooter09 said:
Against San Diego.
Ralphwiggum said:12 straight years of 10 plus wins.
That is amazing.
There were no rushing TDs, by Gray or anyone else. The first of the two TDs was a catch by Gronk.singaporesoxfan said:TDs today: former UDFA RB cut by his team and picked up by the Pats scores a rushing TD; 6th rounder QB throws a pass to 7th rounder WR.
Toe Nash said:On the Browner hit, my problem is not so much with calling it a hit to the head but rather with stretching the definition of "defenseless" receiver. According to the rules, a defenseless receiver is:
"A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player"
So I guess while bobbling the ball you're still "attempting" to make the catch, but he was bobbling it for a long time -- multiple steps.
MarcSullivaFan said:He was very good in 2007 and 2008 until he got hurt. 2009 was, admittedly, an abomination.
Ha! I was just thinking of that one. I remembered him abusing Favre, but I forgot that he tossed Washington like a rag doll as well. It's amazing that his career was over by end of the next season.mt8thsw9th said:
dynomite said:3 Down
- Brady: Hall of Famers have off nights. Not all that concerned. His runs were awesome if terrifying, and he made great throws as always. But the INT before halftime was inexcusable, he forced the ball to covered people in the red area, and he generally seemed out of sync.
Tartan said:
Twitter to the rescue.
Absolutely. I should have been even clearer: I'm not concerned at all, Hall of Famers are allowed to have a few boneheaded plays, especially on the road against good teams. (Hell, even Saint Pedro hung a curveball or two. Well.. one.)MentalDisabldLst said:While you're right, I'll say this: I don't think I've ever seen a player more furious with himself than Brady after that pick. He was bordering on Job territory - "my lord, my lord, why have you forsaken me?" while rending his garments. They showed him on the sideline, inconsolable. He must have cursed half a dozen times while sitting on his ass in the two seconds immediately after the play. Nobody holds himself accountable like Tom Brady. Makes his (very) occasional braindead play a bit more tolerable..
MentalDisabldLst said:On the INT? Gronk was open over the top - he'd beaten the coverage, and a good throw to the back corner beats the safety help too. There was a behind-the-play camera angle they showed. Brady just under-threw it by a mile, allowing Te'o to turn around and just jump for it, whereas a true jump ball (i.e. higher up) would be won by Gronk like 90%+ of the time.
I don't think he was "open by 6 yards" the way some in the game thread had it, but the play was there to be made, and Brady threw it too low. That's all there was to it. Not a bad decision (though not a great one, either), just bad execution.
Sorry again, not being clear today.MentalDisabldLst said:On the INT? Gronk was open over the top - he'd beaten the coverage, and a good throw to the back corner beats the safety help too. There was a behind-the-play camera angle they showed. Brady just under-threw it by a mile, allowing Te'o to turn around and just jump for it, whereas a true jump ball (i.e. higher up) would be won by Gronk like 90%+ of the time.
I don't think he was "open by 6 yards" the way some in the game thread had it, but the play was there to be made, and Brady threw it too low. That's all there was to it. Not a bad decision (though not a great one, either), just bad execution.